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    Barbaro Updates: 932

    updates are now here.

    Update 5538: Daily Racing Form on Lord of the Game's retirement: Lord of the Game claimed, retired, excerpt:

    Moss recently claimed an old class horse named Tour of the Cat at Presque Isle Downs under similar circumstances, simply to take the horse off the track and put him out to pasture.

    "I don't make a habit of it, but I do have the ability to claim horses that other people would like to retire," Moss said. "Name horses, famous horses, and horses that aren't so famous. My goal is to keep bringing attention to this and have other breeders and owners step up. You can't save them all, but if one or two people step up, it makes all the difference. WinStar really stepped up to the plate on this horse. I wish more horses were as wanted as him."

    Update 5537: Entries for the upcoming Woodward: Rachel to Face 7 Males in Historic Woodward.

    Update 5536: This week's radio show included guest Andy Durnin from Del Mar and co-hosts Bob Hatfield from Churchill Downs and Paul Breedon from Saratoga. Lots of discussion about last week's Travers and King's Bishop, and the upcoming Woodward and Pacific Classic: Alex Brown Racing on the Radio.

    Update 5535: A thoroughly gorgeous morning this morning at Woodbine for training racehorses! I had seven to gallop for Steve, and all galloped nicely. I also took two to the gate for a little schooling, and they both stood nicely. After finishing galloping for Steve I got on Hooh Why, who ran here over the weekend and is scheduled to be here up to her next race. She went out for a little jog and all was well.

    Now to get ready for our 11:30 am radio show.

    Update 5534: It's Wednesday, which means we have our 30 minute radio show at 11:30 am today. We will review last weekend's racing action, including the Travers and the King's Bishop. We will also preview the upcoming Woodward Stakes (Rachel Alexandra) and the Pacific Classic at Del Mar. It should be a fun show: Alex Brown Racing on the radio!

    And please keep calling.

    Comments

    Hiya, FsOB! Running late this AM, but sending out a hearty "hello" to the AM shift here. Wishing everyone a safe & productive day. May the situation with the BLM come to a successful close for the Pryor Herd. Peace, RMH

    Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at September 2, 2009 12:07 PM

    Good morning all:

    We MUST keep pushing the BLM and the White House to stop this "gather." There is more info about further "gathers" (reminds me of calling horse slaughter "horse processing,) coming up it's long but I'm posting it after I feed the dogs.

    With Pryor Mountain, we are looking at the tip of the malignant iceberg--as we assumed. So get used to this petitioning our "duly elected officials"
    to get off their butts and tell the White House and the BLM that these are OUR horses, and that the US can look elsewhere for its URANIUM and whatever else ostensibly "precious" below the surface of wild horse lands. PUBLIC LANDS>

    GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
    xxoo:j
    COURAGE

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 1:50 PM

    Hi Gang.

    As if we don't have enough to do - could y'all please read the following leetle prayer for my friend Joyce.

    Dear God, please let this next operation show 'clean' cells with no more bad cells. You gave her the gift of weaving. Please let her get back to her looms. She treads this earth gently and appreciatively. Amen.

    Posted by: MargieinNM at September 2, 2009 2:29 PM

    Morning ABR Famblee...

    I am number THREE??? Where is everyone this morning? In the westwing..and I'm #3..Hope all is well in the eastwing!

    Nothing to say in particular...lots to say in general..and sadly none of it is much good! All having to do with BLM/Uranium and Cloud's Wild Herd...as Jonna put it, "the tip of the malignant iceburg" :( The whole situation makes me sick.

    If you'd like to see/read a 'feel-good' story involving a rescued horse, visit the Discussion Board and do an Advanced Search for Discussion Number:36501.278.

    *DRIFTER* is there:) And he, at least, is a happy healthy horse today! Thanks to many of YOU, my Famblee:)

    On October 16, there will be a Fund Raising Dinner held at a Hilton Hotel in Concord, CA. Held to raise monies for Safe Haven Horse Rescue in Cottonwood, CA.

    Linda C. one of Linda Richards' longtime volunteers at Safe Haven contacted me a couple of weeks ago to say she'd like to put together a Poster Board honoring the FOBs who helped rescue a few horses at Safe Haven. She will be including *DRIFTER* and *CHARLEY* and some others, too!! Telling whomever stops by to look at the display all about US:) and how we have helped the horses!

    I've asked for, and received permission from Ms. Lydia Williams, whose photo of Barbaro is featured on the Home Page of ABR to use that photo on the Poster Board...and I've written a synopsis explaining how we all came to be in this world...what we are all about, how many horses across the USA we've saved thusfar, and how much money we've raised. I also included our work in trying to stop slaughter of our American horses...and am excited to see photos of the finished product which will stand on display the night of the dinner. I'll be sure and post all that on the *DRIFTER* Thread sometime later next month, along with any comments Safe Haven might have heard from folks stopping there to read.

    I hope everyone will have a good day today...keep MARCHING Famblee...don't let the Turkeys get you down.

    Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

    Personally, I think it's very nice of Safe Haven to recognize us in this way:)

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at September 2, 2009 2:43 PM

    For Debbie and Jonna....

    **********************************
    JOE-PART ONE FOR WEDNESDAY: At least the Mexican Rodeo horses are finding loving homes after their time spent 'entertaining' :/

    Wednesday, September 2nd... Since Monday we have placed 9 horses into new homes, but only one came from our ranch. The rest from a mexican rodeo dealer, and also private homes with money problems. Plus we have 10 or so families waiting on approval, so this could be a very good week. On Monday I asked for help with horses in other places, and as usual readers of this website respond. Boy do they respond.

    This e-mail from Kate in Fairbanks, Alaska: Every morning with delicious hot coffee from Peets, and microwave waffles made by Eggo, I read your website. I have watched videos of fighting stallions, and no movie made can show this kind of real evil and pain. If you can find a place to rehab a fighting stallion, I will send you all of the expenses.

    At our front gate an equine student from UC Davis. She wants to know, do we have any mexican rodeo horses living on our ranch?

    Yes.

    The student meets Scarlet and Almond Joy. She says hello to Spirit and Rocky Road. In our fields I point out Broadway. Clark Bar. Idaho Spud. Chocolate Babe. Pink Punch. Handy. Sundae.

    more to come

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at September 2, 2009 3:34 PM

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 2, 2009 3:35 PM

    Great minds think alike, LOL Lynne

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 2, 2009 3:39 PM

    Mornin' , I'm here (and almost) ready to go , with a few more sips of coffee ! A slow start to this day , but I hope to make it up with enthusiasm, ha.

    Joe just warms the heart and starts the day right , doesn't he?
    ## Margie I prayed for Joyce and will put her on my prayer list. Sending best wishes too.

    ## Lynne , It's good for Safe Haven to show us this way in public, kudos to us and great for the horses. Here's wishing the fund raising dinner is a great success and they receive lots of funds for the horses.

    BLM : we are back today , hoping you will stop and hear what citizens are trying to tell you.
    Arrogance is servants of the people is so unattractive.

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 2, 2009 3:47 PM

    FAMBLEE:
    A NOTE FROM DARYL--HORSE WARRIOR OF THE GREAT WILD NORTH--ATTACHED WITH HIS PERMISSION.
    **************************************************
    The Bureau of Land MIS-Management continues it's assault on America's horses. What you will read is all lies.

    There are only 50,000 wild horses and burros left in the USA. 33,500 are held in captivity in Nevada.

    The article talks about "management levels" of the horses. This government agency wastes more money than almost any other US government operations so they should learn to manage themselves before they try to manage the lands and it's inhabitants.

    Ann tagged this agency perfectly: rogues!

    More roundups are planned. Soon, an American icon will be gone. And a great piece of our heritage.

    Anyone up for a "Million Horse March" on DC?
    Daryl
    **************************************************
    http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/article_47f0cbaa-96a8-11de-b60e-001cc4c002e0.html
    **************************************************
    BLM planning to round up nearly 1,000 horses

    JEFF GEARINO Casper Star-Tribune | Posted: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:30pm

    http://billingsgazette.com/news/state-and-regional/wyoming/article_47f0cbaa-96a8-11de-b60e-001cc4c002e0.html

    BLM planning to round up nearly 1,000 horses

    JEFF GEARINO Casper Star-Tribune | Posted: Monday, August 31, 2009 9:30
    pm | 1 Comment

    GREEN RIVER - For two weeks this fall, federal wranglers will most likely round up nearly 1,000 wild horses from public rangelands,
    according to Bureau of Land Management officials.

    The massive roundups proposed for southwest Wyoming aim to reduce wild-horse populations and bring them back into line with the BLM's
    desired numbers, officials said.

    On Monday, the agency released an environmental assessment on the proposal from the BLM's Rawlins and Lander field offices to gather about
    948 wild horses from five different herd management areas known collectively as the Red Desert Complex.

    The complex includes the Antelope Hills, Crooks Mountain, Green Mountain, Stewart Creek and Lost Creek herd management areas.

    BLM officials said the gathering operations will include helicopter drive trapping, which uses a helicopter and on-the-ground wranglers to
    herd wild horses into a temporary trap.

    Additionally, the agency proposes to implement fertility treatments on captured mares that are released back to the range, according to plans.

    The fertility measures intend to slow the growth rate of the population that is returned to the herd management areas.

    The environmental assessment said the roundup is expected to begin in early November and will last from 10 to 15 days.

    The BLM has set the herd management level for the Red Desert Complex at480 horses on the low end.

    Currently in Wyoming, about 4,500 wild horses are scattered across 16 herd management areas, although most of the animals live on public lands
    in southwest Wyoming. The BLM has a statewide herd management goal of from 2,700 to 3,700 wild horses.

    Wild-horse numbers within the five herd management areas have greatly exceeded the appropriate management levels since the late 1990s, according to the BLM.

    With no natural predators, wild horses have an annual reproduction rate of between 15 and 20 percent, biologists say. As wild-horse populations
    rise, the animals begin increasing their range in search of forage, water and space, competing with livestock and other multiple uses on public lands.

    Wild horses were last gathered in the Red Desert Complex in 2006, according to the environmental study. Following the roundup, the population was estimated to be about 550 wild horses.

    Since that time, the agency believes, the wild-horse population has grown to an estimated 950 adult horses.

    The document said that exceeds the low end of the appropriate management level by nearly 500 horses.

    BLM biologists estimate there will also be additional 250 foals added to the herd this year. They expect about 10 percent of the foals gathered
    will be returned to the herd to maintain age class distribution.

    Wild horses that are captured during roundups in Wyoming are taken to the BLM's holding corrals in Rock Springs, where they are offered up for
    adoption.

    The agency also has agreements with the Wyoming Honor Farm in Riverton, a state correctional facility, where wild horses are trained by inmates, and with the Mantle Ranch near Wheatland, where horses are also gentled and trained.

    In 2003, after wild-horse populations soared upward of 7,000 animals, the state and the BLM signed a "consent decree" dictating that the BLM
    meet the state's wild-horse objective with wild horse roundups over the following few years.

    The decree specifies that when information is gathered that indicates a herd management area in Wyoming is over the BLM's desired population
    level, the agency has one year from discovery to remove wild horses to the low range of the appropriate management level.

    Also this fall, the BLM plans to continue another wild-horse roundup of between 320 and 496 horses in the North Lander Complex, which consists
    of four herd management areas in central Wyoming.

    Contact Jeff Gearino at 307-875-5359 or at gearino@tribcsp.com.

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 3:48 PM

    Arrogance IN servants of the people... sorry

    Hey Debbie LA and everbuddy this morning.

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 2, 2009 3:49 PM

    Damn: i re-wrapped this whole thing and it did not take. Sorry for the annoying format. But there we have the lies upon lies. God, they really can look themselves in the mirrors and believe this %%%%?

    PLEASE KEEP CALLING.
    xxoo:j
    COURAGE

    (Prayers for JOYCE.)
    I am here: just trying to get the danged word out from Daryl. God bless him.

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 3:51 PM

    I JUST READ THAT THE HEARING IS AT 11 OCLOCK, NOT 1PM AS WE THOUGHT .
    Please , if you pray , stop and say a prayer now that the judge will see what is happening and stop the BLM.

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 2, 2009 3:59 PM

    ###3
    FOBS....I think the BLM...is purposely trying to conceive us...make us confuse.

    LET US SHOW THEM....WE GET IT...AND WE HERE AND NOT GOING AWAY....

    These wild horses and burros are America's treasures...

    ####
    Please remember all the animals and wildlife in California....this is very, very heartbreaking.

    and then parts of Texas...which is experiencing a severe drought....alot of animals and wildlife and horses running out of water...plus people too...pray for rain.

    ####
    Congress will be back soon...ARE WE READY?

    ####
    remember and help our rescues...they help us...please...read the db...alot going on...please.

    ###
    IF NOT US, WHO?????

    Posted by: joan roya at September 2, 2009 4:12 PM

    THE REST OF *JOE* FOR TODAY...

    The student asks, can she use our bathroom?

    Okay.

    Later on the counter in our kitchen, I see an envelope. $200.00 in this envelope, along with a note which says: Use this money to help the rodeo horses.

    Last night the student phones. She has not been able to stop thinking about Almond Joy. So she found a nice barn in Davis with affordable board. The student wants to know, can she adopt Joy?

    Transportation takes place on Friday.

    We concentrate on race horses, always have. The majority injured and unhappy. Something about the way they rebound, the way they forgive.

    But these mexican rodeo horses. Addicting. No other way to explain. Addicting.

    Last week a female jockey came to spend time with a gelding she used to ride. Together the gelding and jockey made gobs of money. As the jockey is getting ready to leave she asks who is that?

    I said Scarlet.

    It was hot, so the jockey gave Scarlet a cold water bath. Hand walked until she dried. Groomed her. Scarlet received all sorts of treats. The jockey spent more time with Scarlet than with the gelding she came to see. Lots more time.

    The next day the jockey phones. She is sending $250.00 each month to pay for expenses on Scarlet.

    These mexican rodeo horses. Addicting.

    Joe

    Some of this, some of that:

    Top Left: Recent adoptions include Merge The Distance, who gets a great new home with Cassandra.

    Top Right: Recent arrivals include this guy from the feed lot in Wilton. There is a racing tattoo which says he is only 4. We are calling him Pirate.

    Then and Now

    Bottom Left: It was the end of June when we bought this gelding from mexican rodeo. He was injured and depressed. Rope burns on his ankles. We named him Spirit.

    Bottom Right: This picture was taken last night at sunset. Spirit has gained weight and he is such a sweet horse to be around. On Saturday our little friend Allison jumped aboard without a saddle, and Spirit was so good with her. Spirit has become our big pet.

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at September 2, 2009 4:20 PM

    THANK YEW MISS LYNNNNNNENENENENENENEEEEEEEE.
    What would we do without Yew.
    Did you get the praying mantis pix i sent yew?

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 4:22 PM

    God please wrap your White Light around these precious horses and their foals...Please protect them. Please see that they are allowed to stay in the home You provided for them...Please do not allow them to be taken away from their home or us, their brothers and sisters. amen

    Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at September 2, 2009 4:51 PM

    Lynn , beautiful prayer, thanks. call 1 202 456 1111
    to tell them (The White House) what the BLM is
    doing.

    I have stayed on hold longer than ever on the White House line -- a good sign that many are calling , I hope about the horses ! Call yall 1 202 456 1111

    The other calls I got through quickly . Actually talked to a polite lady at the BLM ! I was polite too but told her what the GAO said in a report about her agency and the horse care they provide !

    Call, call, call.
    Haven't heard yet about the court case going on now, has anyone ??

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 2, 2009 5:05 PM

    Sending All, All All My Love..........Prayers....
    ........Angelic Beautiful Glowing Rainbows.......
    .To Angel Barbaro..........Our Angel Horses......
    ...Barbaro's Famblee Of So, So So Beautiful Angels............God's Glowing Angels On This
    Earth...........Glowing Heart...........Angel
    Alex...........Glowing Angel...........Angel Wendy............Your Glowing Wings Of Love......
    .....Your Rainbows Of Love...........

    So, So So Special Prayers

    Cloud And His Angel Herd And Angel C.J. And
    Bear Bear And Angel Jen And Angel Joan Roya And
    Angel Verna And Angel Aaron And Angel Sherry And
    Amigo And Angel Chico And Angel Sandra And Chief
    And Angel Renee And Barbaro's Famblee Of So, So
    So Beautiful Angels On This Earth..........God's
    Love For You.............

    The Angels Of Love

    Angel Lou Ann And Angel Bobbie B. And Angel
    Joan Roya And Angel Padme A'Tea And Angel Lynne
    And Angel Linda And Angel Sue And Angel Barb AZ,
    Chunky And Punky And 153 And Petunia And Angel
    Robyn And Angel Brent And Angel Nikita And Angel
    Jonna And Angel Tammie And Angel Chessie And Angel Harriette And Angel Daryl And Angel Sherry
    And Amigo And Angel Chico And Angel Jane And
    Angel Judy Scott-Ont And Angel Taffy And Angel
    Sophie's Lee And His Angel Famblee And Angel
    Sandra And Chief And Angel Renee And Angel
    Equine Heaven And Barbaro''s Famblee Of So,
    So So Beautiful Angels..........Your Angelic
    Hearts Of Love Glowing............

    Our Sacred Journey In Rainbows

    Traveling Together On The Golden Road Of The Rainbow
    In Care..........Love And Support..........
    With Angels All Around............

    Angels Among Us............

    God's Treasures On This Earth

    Our Angel Horses
    Our Angel Pets
    God's Divine Companionship And Love
    Barbaro's Angels
    God's Angels On This Earth...........

    Living And Being With Our Angel Horses
    God's Divine Connection And Communication........

    God's Glowing Sunshine
    Our Angel Horses Grazing...........

    Seek And Ye Shall Find In Rainbows

    God's Wonders For You Angels
    Beautiful Visions
    Beautiful Creations
    Beautiful Inspirations............

    God's Divine Signs........

    God's So, So So Special Blessings For You Angels.
    ............

    In Halos..........

    Affirmed

    Posted by: Dee Mirich at September 2, 2009 5:11 PM

    ALERTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

    From: Lucille Matte
    Subject: Fw: Hearing now at 11 a.m.!
    To: mortgagematte@earthlink.net
    Date: Wednesday, September 2, 2009, 9:44 AM


    I just received this from Front Range Equine Rescue. Prayers for the horses and for the judge to put a stop to this.
    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
    I just saw an email from our attorney the hearing is at 11:00 a.m. instead of 1:30 as we were originally told.
    %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

    Two hours difference from EST--that would make it
    1:00 pm here, right> I am so pissed I cannot even think.

    WHAT A BIG SURPRISE THAT THEY MOVED THE TIME UP.

    XXOO:J
    COURAGE IN ABUNDANCE>

    ASK FOR A GOD-DAMNED PRESIDENTIAL EXECUTIVE ORDER TO CEASE AND DESIST.


    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 5:38 PM

    REPOSTING CALL NUMBERS;
    PLEASE FAMBLEE
    DO NOT STOP CALLING

    1. Call/fax President Obama as often as you can—this herd is a national treasure and should not be wiped out by a government agency. Please flood the phone lines with calls! Phone: 202-456-1111 or 202-456-9000 Fax: 202-456-2461

    2. Ask Secretary of Interior Ken Salazar to stop this round up
    Call: 202-208-3100

    3. BLM Director Bob Abbey, tell him to halt this round up-- he must reconsider his agency's actions
    Call: 202-208-3801 or 866-468-7826
    Fax: 202-208-5242

    GO HERD!
    EQUINE HEAVEN WE NEED YOUR HELP!
    DEE WE NEED YOUR RAINBOWS.

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 5:43 PM

    Sending All, All All My Love..........Prayers....
    .........Angelic Beautiful Glowing Rainbows......
    ....To Cloud And His Angel Herd............

    I Love You So A Lot So Angel Jonna. You Are In My
    Heart So (8) A Lot So........You Touch My Heart
    So (8) A Lot So.........For Being A So, So So Very Beautiful Angel On This Earth...........

    Affirmed

    Posted by: Dee Mirich at September 2, 2009 5:56 PM

    ## Jonna ,
    from my understanding , the judge and court
    is in Wash, D.C. so it would be our time eastern.
    I think I read on the forum it was D.C.

    Can't find anything else out over there at this time, about the court, judge ,etc. , so I guess no one knows anything yet. They will post when they do, but I am on pins and needles waiting to see what the judge does.

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 2, 2009 6:28 PM

    I am going nuts.

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 6:40 PM

    the D&C says the hearing is still ongoing...i hope this is a good sign. Go to that thread and look at pictures of Lakota Sioux and Ginger in prayer and blessing for protection of Cloud and his family.

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 6:50 PM

    OK:

    I have to pull the covers over my head now.
    I am pretty sure it will esplode, one way or the other, so I need to protect the hounds from all the gray matter.

    God. This is just wretched.

    xxoo:j
    COURAGE

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 7:09 PM

    Going to do a few things myself , mainly to keep busy and make time pass more quickly until we here.
    Dear God , let it be a stay or restraining order or some kind of stop on the BLM. Will check back to hear as soon as possible.
    Praying for the best, please pray with me today ;o)
    bye now,

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 2, 2009 7:24 PM

    ####
    Jonna....I am praying...God is in control...always....

    Posted by: joan at September 2, 2009 7:25 PM

    until we HEAR , not here. God , I am really tired.

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 2, 2009 7:25 PM

    ###Prayers for Joyce. Weavers are very important. Good friends are very important. God, take care of this, please. Thanks.

    (I feel having a close, personal and 'casual' friendship with God is important. The Man and I often have these chats ;o)

    ###Go figure--the BLM can't even do the horse thing right. They rope off, fence off, and protect the "endangered habitats" of butterflies, moths and creatures that are fully capable of relocating to another area--I mean, there is a LOT of "uninhabited habitat" out there ... but they are going to "harvest" the wild horses?

    Yeah, I want the government in charge of my energy use and my health care and my hard-earned money. Damn betcha.

    NOT.

    Posted by: KAY at September 2, 2009 7:51 PM

    ####Praying that the judge presiding will see the light and allow God to guide his decision to do the right thing for Cloud and his herd and all the horses.

    Judy

    Posted by: Judy Scott-Ont, Canada at September 2, 2009 8:40 PM

    See we are all here praying and waiting.

    ####
    Bobbie B, Kay, Joan, Judy, Robyn, Jonna, Lynne, Margie and Dee

    Our government is too big!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 2, 2009 9:01 PM

    And Judy!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 2, 2009 9:04 PM

    I can't believe we don't know anything yet .
    How long can this take, if it is held over till another day or postponed , surely we would here.
    'I am checking the discussion board constantly but nothing yet that I can find.
    Pray my frens, keep praying.
    I'm checking out now for a few minutes, will be back soon.

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 2, 2009 9:44 PM

    Bobbie, I just read on the DB that we lost.

    Posted by: kathyb at September 2, 2009 9:51 PM

    JUST THREW SOME MONEY TO THE CLOUD FOUNDATION. THEY WILL NEED IT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. wROTE THEM THAT THE fObS WERE WORKING HARD FOR CLOUD AND OTHER WILD HORSES, One of their people wrote: Just a few min ago, if i calculate time diffs correctly:)

    -- our attorney is in court now for a Temp. Restraining order, holding hope-- keep calling Salazar, media, etc--- we have to stop this and all roundups

    I was hoping there would be word of some kind...Maybe this is a GOOD thing that they have been at it for hours?

    xxoo:j
    COURAGE
    Thanks
    Makendra

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 9:57 PM

    ###
    Kathy, bad news for the houses. %$*&

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 2, 2009 9:59 PM

    I agree, Debbie. Just sick.

    Posted by: kathyb at September 2, 2009 10:01 PM

    Legal documents copied here on the Cloud Foundation website:
    http://www.thecloudfoundation.org/index.php/news-events-a-media/legal-battle

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 10:10 PM

    ###Oh no, I hope that's not true. I'm away now until Tuesday, that's going to be tough not knowing for sure but I will pray that it's not so.

    Have a safe Labor Day everyone.

    Posted by: Judy Scott-Ont, Canada at September 2, 2009 10:10 PM

    I just spoke to Grijalva's office and they have not received a response to the letter the congressman sent out. The BLM is ignoring everyone.

    From Mary L. Yes, the terror will begin tomorrow.

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 10:14 PM

    Other than Barbaro's accident and death , this is

    the saddest I've ever been on this site.

    I studied political science a little but so help me God ,
    I don't know how the judiciary came to rule this nation.
    I must go or I will get into real trouble and don't want to be banned, but damn them all.

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 2, 2009 10:41 PM

    ###One of my favorite sayings is, "There's a special Hell for people like that" and I have used it a lot regarding people who are cruel to animals and to each other.

    I feel that way a LOT about some of our elected officials. It's too bad they can't get a taste of that "special Hell" so they can mend their ways before it's too late.

    grump grump grump

    Posted by: KAY at September 2, 2009 10:54 PM

    Hello Famblee....

    I just came in from being gone all day to the news of Cloud and his Herd and the 'gather' will proceed as planned....My heart hurts, my stomach hurts, my head hurts...and I am quite sure God is weeping. He never intended for those horses to be anywhere but where He put them...but like so many of God's good works...we humans screw them up:/

    Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at September 2, 2009 11:02 PM

    Humans screw up, and the horses pay. God be with them tomorrow. The BLM do everything the Cattlemen Ass. wants. Bet some money changed hands.
    Need chocolate and a drink!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 2, 2009 11:27 PM

    ###
    I just came in...and right now I'm just FURIOUS, the sadness will come later.

    But, as we all know, MONEY TALKS...and I'm sure you all know the rest of that expression!

    Apparently a government "of the people, by the people, and for the people" only applies to those people who have the financial wherewithal to get what they want, no matter the ultimate cost...

    I am sickened, and am going to bed!

    Posted by: NancyNaughtyNutmegger at September 2, 2009 11:38 PM

    FROM PAT DONLEY THROUGH VICKI TOBIN
    **************************************************
    From: John Holland
    Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 4:12 PM
    To: John Holland
    Subject: Cloud's herd, what this means.
    **************************************************
    As you know by now, we did not get the TRO (temporaray restraining order) for Cloud. That means the gather of his herd will continue. The case still remains to be heard. Here is Laura Allen’s explanation:
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    No, it won’t help. The TRO motion doesn’t resolve the issues raised in the complaint; it’s just to preserve the status quo until the parties can do some discovery and brief the judge on the issues and then he or she can rule on the merits of the case. The judge here decided not to preserve the status quo and allow the roundup. The parties will still proceed to brief the issues and the judge may dispose of the case on motions they will each file for summary judgment. Summary judgment is a procedure used when the facts are not in dispute and the judge rules based on the law. The facts seem very much in dispute here, but the parties will file motions for summary judgment so the judge has set a hearing. I don’t know if anyone has asked for a jury, but if it’s a judge tried case, whether it’s disposed of on summary judgment or a bench trial won’t matter.

    A favorable ruling on the merits of the case won’t help Cloud’s Herd. It could limit the BLM in doing round ups in the future like the case decided a few weeks ago in DC.

    The Cloud Foundation will be putting out a release shortly and they will be filming the gather.

    John Holland

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 11:42 PM

    But my dear Western Horse Warrior, Pat Donley says: WE CAN'T STOP.

    I AM NOT GOING TO STOP.
    GINGER--THE DOCUMENTARIAN AND FOUNDER OF THE CLOUD FOUNDATION WILL BE IN THERE TOMORROW FILMING.

    IF SHE CAN DO THIS--FOR THE PAST WHAT, 15 YEARS?--
    I CAN KEEP CALLING.

    WE DID NOT GIVE UP ON HORSE SLAUGHTER. WE CANNOT GIVE UP ON THIS. THERE WILL BE OTHER F-ING GATHERS. MAYBE THIS ACTION TOMORROW (sure) WILL SPARE MOST OF THE HERD.

    I was wrong, there will be an action in DC tomorrow. But you have to be a frakking attn'y to understand what the hell it means.

    BUT. I DO UNDERSTAND THIS. IT WILL NOT NOT NOT STOP THE GATHER OF THESE PRECIOUS AMERICAN ICONS.

    Watch the Cloud Foundation website--Pat says--for updates. NOW I am going to be ill...


    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 2, 2009 11:51 PM


    Just got home and read the news. My heart is breaking.

    It is now only God's hand that can preserve CLOUD and his famblee.

    I want to cry, but at this point in time, there MUST be Hope.

    Oh, Lord...As you have delighted in Your magnificent handiwork...please manifest Your power and answer our prayer.

    Help me to truly declare... I BELIEVE!

    Your FOB Fren, O

    Posted by: Otherlyn at September 3, 2009 12:00 AM

    I've read that NBC will be filming and also the Cloud Foundation.

    I imagine the BLM people will at least be very careful with so many eyes upon them...At least I hope they will be very careful!

    Perhaps if a cameraman or twelve are present and 'rolling' if something less than alright does happen, perhaps that will be aired and maybe THEN more people will speak for the horses.

    I talked about Cloud several times today to different people..none had ever heard of him or his herd...Everyone was horrified to hear they might be 'gathered' from their home....but too little, too late, I'm guessing.

    In all actuality Famblee, it might not have mattered a 'hill of beans' no matter how many called to protest...I think it was a 'done deal' before it ever got to tomorrow:/

    Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at September 3, 2009 12:03 AM

    Gee filming the roundup, last one was horrible. Can't watch it again, mare screaming for lost babies. And the babies can not keep up and they are just scared to death. Poor Cloud, he will be unable to protect his herd. I am sick.

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 3, 2009 12:05 AM

    From: Jerry Finch [mailto:jfinch@habitatforhorses.org]
    Sent: Wednesday, September 02, 2009 3:47 PM
    To: jfinch@habitatforhorses.org
    Subject: Tomorrow
    *************************************************
    NBC - The Today Show - will be there tomorrow. I guess as witnesses to watch the horses die. I hope for their viewing pleasure, American's get to see a baby trampled to death. Certainly would boost their ratings and the "cowboys" can have a video to take home and watch.

    I lived through the whole disgusting Texas slaughterhouse mess, but I could blame all that on local politics. I've stood in DC and listened to the vomit coming from the mouths of the pro-slaughter suits, and I always had faith that in the end, we would win.

    This is wrong on all levels. There is not one single iota of good, not one meaningful word or thought, that makes the destruction of the Pryor Mountain herd acceptable. That is, if you aren't making money off the horses and the roundup.

    The horses belong to us - you, me, the American people. The horses lost today. Some will pay for the loss with their lives, some lost their freedom.

    And I lost my faith in our government. It's gone - forever.
    **************************************************

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 3, 2009 12:08 AM

    Steph send this from John Hollend
    We are asking for a blitz calling the offices of Obama and Biden. 202-456-1111 or 202-456-9000. Please start calling! Voice mail FOB"s lets get started.

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 3, 2009 12:16 AM

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 3, 2009 12:46 AM

    I don't trust the NBC Today Show , they will keep their cameras on the pretty little foals the BLM will have standing by for them , and I think they will swallow the line the BLM feeds them .

    Let's hope to God that I am wrong and maybe some truth will be shown. Just watch who they interview and give the most time to - I know it will be slanted.

    The BLM has run roughshod over these horses for years and what has been done about it. It's a damn shame that I can't have the powers of Samantha the Witch tomorrow- it would come out a whole lot different ! ! !

    Two congressmen have apparently been unable to stop this round up so I have to believe there is some more power here than we know. We know what the post said yesterday, uranium , etc. and the Skyline Uranium Corp. leads right to
    a big law firm / company in

    The United Arab Emirates.


    I wonder if the judge was told who was ultimately behind this ?

    I mean really , what would an Arab company need uranium for ?
    All I know it is used for , right off the top of my head,

    Is nuclear weapons.


    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 3, 2009 12:55 AM

    Sick here in AZ, too. Just SICK.

    Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky, AND 153, AND Petunia! at September 3, 2009 1:04 AM

    Lynne , I think you are right that this was a done deal , a big deal , bigger than we know.

    # Jonna , I'm with you on a loss of faith in our government , never trusted them much in my later adult years , but had hoped for some change.

    It's all money and power -just as always. Not to help these horses when you have the power to in unforgivable. I will never forgive it and will vote for the challenger and against the incumbent in every race , maybe excepting a few horse supporting ones.

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 3, 2009 1:04 AM

    Dear God, I bow my head to thee and beg that you will find it in your heart to make these innocent horses run as fast as they can, or to bring distruction to the monsters whom are out to destroy them. Please dear Lord, protect the innocent horses from any danger that will come their way. Wrap yourself around them and keep them safe. Amen

    Angels of heaven please form a canopy over the wild horses to keep them safe.

    ((((((((((((((((((Famblee))))))))))))))))))))))))

    Posted by: Renee M. Antaya at September 3, 2009 1:07 AM

    FROM MY GREAT NY CALLING GROUP HEAD; AND DON'T FORGET THE CALLING LINES AT THE WHITE HOUSE ARE OPEN 8AM-5PM

    WE CAN'T GET THEM AGAIN TONIGHT, BUT TOMORROW. TOMORROW TOMORROW TOMORROW
    **************************************************
    Dear Jonna,

    I am so sorry to tell you the judge ruled against us this afternoon in Federal Court. Unless a miracle happens, the roundup of Cloud's herd will proceed tomorrow. The motions and case will be heard later, but Judge Sullivan did not grant the temporary restraining order that would have saved Cloud's herd.

    It’s not over yet. Even if the horses are rounded-up, we can still try to get them released. There has to be something we can do. Something.

    Stay tuned and watch your email for the alert. I will also pass it on just in case you are not on the mailing list.

    Ginger Kathrens and The Cloud Foundation have a permit and will be filming. So will NBC Today Show, so America can watch nursing foals being trampled and orphaned by a government "contractor" paid $7,000 a day by you and me.

    Prayers for Cloud and his herd. And please keep Ginger in your thoughts, she is devastated.

    * When you're done praying, we're doing a PHONE BLITZ to the President and Vice President TOMORROW. We wake up before the helicopters take off in Montana. Pull out all the stops, people. Please forward this to everyone.
    * Everybody - you, me, and anyone who's ever admired a horse has the time to make one call, so please let's flood the lines!

    Thank you for all you do,
    Susan Hamlin

    Phone Blitz:
    Obama and Biden. 202-456-1111 or 202-456-9000.
    Please start calling.

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 3, 2009 1:12 AM

    ####
    RENEE....A BEAUTIFUL POWERFUL PRAYER...

    #####
    I pray I do not offend anyone...but here I go...

    I have lost every ounce of faith I had in our government affairs...WHAT IS WRONG FOR CLOUD AND HIS HERD TO RUN FREE....free....

    Money, money, money, and then greed...

    Government takeovers...I am absolutely sick of it...what happen to we, the people, by the people, for the people...WHAT HAPPENED...

    We do not count anymore, our voices do not count anymore, our feelings do not count any more...

    Our horses, animals, and wildlife are suffering...and the ones who care, WHO GET IT, IS THE FOBS...and animal lovers.

    Do we have to have An Animal/Horse parties across the United States? do we have to start having huge meetings and waive our posters to get attention.....

    PLEASE TOMORROW...DO NOT GIVE UP HOPE....PLEASE MAKE YOUR CALLS...in our hearts....we know we are giving our all...

    If this happens, I will completely lose all faith...I love my country, I love the United States, but our government NEEDS TO CHANGE...AND LISTEN TO US...

    God Bless those horses, babies tomorrow....May He intervene....someway, somehow....GOD IS IN CONTROL....

    Posted by: joan roya at September 3, 2009 1:32 AM

    I can't even say "hiya" tonight, reading the sad news about the impending round-up of the Pryor Herd. It makes me think of Hal Holbrook's character (AKA "Deep Throat") who says to Robert Redford's character (Bob Woodward)in the movie about Watergate: "Follow the money."

    How should our country be viewed by the world when we have no respect for animals that are unique to our continent nor any reverence for the history of our Nation? I cringe to think that others in the world view us as money-grubbing, rampant consumers. A very sad night, indeed.

    #### To Margie: Keeping your dear pal Joyce in my thoughts. Hoping that she gets an excellent pathology report, Margie.
    To Angel Dee: Your rainbows are needed now more than ever! ####

    Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at September 3, 2009 1:36 AM

    Oh...*F* WORD!!

    I just wrote my heart here...took me FOREVER:/ and it's LOST IN SPACE:/

    Bobbie B: Uranium is also used in Nuclear Power Plants. Ken Salazar is 'heavy' into Energy.

    I wrote our President Obama an email earlier this late afternoon..

    I told him how sad and disappointed I am. I told him that I want badly to still belive in him and if I've perhaps missed something, I'd love to hear from someone in his office.

    I told him that while we were calling the BLM to voice our concerns, wishes for Cloud and his Herd, people were offered a 'free gift' if we would share with them where we'd learned about Cloud. I told him to me that simply 'smacked' of the BLM people needing to 'get their ducks in a row'. That they had reported Ms. Kathryns had only photographed healthy horses...that many were sick an dying of starvation. I told him that simply isn't true.

    I told him it seems to me that this whole issue is just like everything else, it's all about money and when we mix animals and money, the animals never come out on top.

    I told him I'd read earlier today that perhaps our efforts and those of the attorneys might in the future, prevent gatherings of other herds. I told him right now, of course, I am concerned with Cloud and his Herd...and sadly, Mr. President it appears it is too late for them.

    I said alot of other 'stuff', Famblee..but it's all LOST IN CYBERSPACE now...and my head hurts too damn much to try to recapture it all.

    I am heading to watch some 'chewing gum for the eyes' TV program and I think Two And A Half Men and their re-runs are on in less than an hour..I can laugh at Charlie and Alan and Berta and Rose and Jake and lose myself in their hysterical dysfunction!

    Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at September 3, 2009 2:14 AM

    I am praying for Cloud and his herd.....and that a miracle will happen..........such sadness tonight. So much for Obama bringing change. Oy!

    Posted by: Jane at September 3, 2009 2:21 AM

    Joan and Everyone who's hearts are here ,we will suffer for and with them. I can't stand the feeling of being helpless. I don't know if this helps but here goes.

    I BELIEVE IN MIRACLES! I BELIEVE IN THE WILD HORSES! I STILL BELIEVE IN BARBARO!!!!!!

    We need to pray hard we need to send them energy.

    May God Bless and keep them.

    Posted by: Renee M. Antaya at September 3, 2009 2:22 AM

    Sending All, All All My Love..........Prayers....
    .........Angelic Beautiful Glowing Rainbows......
    ....To Cloud And His Angel Herd..........

    I Love You So A Lot So Angel Robyn And Angel Brent And Angel Nikita..........You Are In My
    Heart So (8) A Lot So..........You Touch My Heart
    So (8) A Lot So..........For Being So, So So Very
    Beautiful Angels On This Earth............

    Glowing Rainbows.........

    In Halos.........

    Affirmed

    Posted by: Dee Mirich at September 3, 2009 2:35 AM

    GINGER KATHRENS
    **************************************************
    HERE IS A BIO OF THE FOUNDER OF THE CLOUD FOUNDATION, FOR ANYONE NEW TO THE CLOUD WORLD.

    WE MUST KEEP THIS WOMAN IN OUR PRAYERS TOMORROW. SHE WILL BE IN THE MIDDLE OF HER OWN PERSONAL HELL...IMHO, AND SHE WILL NEED THE PRAYER OF EVERYONE WHO CAN UTTER AN OFFERING TO GOD FOR HER WELL-BEING AND SANITY.
    **************************************************
    Executive Director:
    Ginger Kathrens - Producer/Cinematographer
    Ginger, Trace and Connor

    GINGER KATHRENS is an Emmy Award-winning producer, cinematographer, writer and editor as well as an award-winning author. Her documentary filmmaking trips have taken her to Africa, Asia, Europe, Central and South America and all over the U.S. She filmed and produced the acclaimed Cloud: Wild Stallion of the Rockies and Cloud’s Legacy: The Wild Stallion Returns for WNET’s Nature series on PBS. Cloud will return to PBS in November with Cloud: Challenge of The Stallions. Five years in the making, it is Kathrens’ next chapter in the life of the charismatic wild stallion she has documented since his birth in May of 1995. Ginger’s revealing journey with wild horses has been compared to Jane Goodall’s experiences with Chimpanzees. Her documentation of Cloud represents the only continuing chronicle of a wild animal from birth in our hemisphere.

    Kathrens was the co-producer and cinematographer of the two-hour Discovery Channel special, Spirits of the Rainforest, which won two Emmy Awards including one for Best Documentary. Additional projects for Discovery included The Ultimate Guide: Horses and The Ultimate Guide: Dogs. Kathrens also wrote, edited, and produced over two dozen segments of the Wild America series for PBS, and has filmed for National Geographic, Animal Planet and the BBC.

    In 2008, Kathrens completed the cinema verité one-hour program, They Crossed the Mountains, The History of the Western States Trail for the Western States Trail Foundation in Auburn, California. For twenty years, she was a political media consultant and producer, working with Presidents Reagan, Ford, and George H. Walker Bush. Her highly regarded political productions include the award-winning short subject, Steady Under Fire, the story of former Colorado U.S. Senator Hank Brown.

    Ginger is the founder and Executive Director of The Cloud Foundation, a 501(c)(3) dedicated to the preservation of wild horses on our public lands with special attention on isolated, historically significant and genetically unique herds like Cloud’s. She is an informed, impassioned and entertaining speaker on behalf of wild horses from coast to coast. She is an expert on Spanish wild horses and has served as a consultant for the television documentary, Horses of the Conquistadors.
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    WE CAN ONLY HOPE TO GOD THAT CLOUD IS STILL ALIVE WHEN THE PBS DOCUMENTARY--KATHREN'S 3RD ON CLOUD AIRS THIS FALL>

    I am gone for the night. I love my famblee...this feels a lot like the day we lost Barbaro to me.

    xxoo:j
    COURAGE

    Posted by: jonnagrey at September 3, 2009 2:40 AM

    Lynne , maybe you've got the uranium connection there with Salazar , but we've not built a nuclear power plant in this country in how long , 30+ years at least. That's why we enjoy buying oil from the middle east and enriching their cartel with gas prices that threaten our economy ever so often, lol.
    I really doubt that it is for us.

    Nothing about this is for us, the citizens, and especially is not for the horses and their good.
    Its for money and power.

    I'm leaving now folks, too tired and disheartened to stay longer tonight. Maybe I will call tomorrow and believe in miracles until the last second - will you ?

    Tonight I will quote from many stupid bumper-stickers I've seen at Myrtle Beach, and around -
    " life's a bitch and then you die "
    bye now,

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at September 3, 2009 2:41 AM

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