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Update 4096: Mike Iavarone Co-President & CEO; IEAH Stables, owner of Big Brown and others, was a guest on Bloodhorse's Talkin' Horses, and was asked about Horse Slaughter:

Ontario, Canada:
Can you comment on your position on the horse slaughter issue?

Iavarone:
My position is horse slaughter is pretty obvious as I have been somewhat outspoken against it and Dr. Patty Hogan who will be our head surgeon at the Ruffian Center has given testimony in Washington DC against it.

Update 4095: Big Brown returned to the work tab for the first time since his win at Monmouth: Big Brown Drills at the Big A.

Update 4094: Superfecta here, with your regular weekly update.

I spent much of Saturday glued to TVG (now a TBA sponsor) since the Powers That Be did not see fit to otherwise televise more than one of the eleven G1 races featured this weekend between Belmont and Santa Anita (not to mention the overseas races). Before the two star performances, however, there were a few upsets along the way.

First, Henrythenavigator finally saw the back of Raven's Pass -- a horse he has beaten three times. They may face each other once more this season in California; one imagines that the weather and firmer ground would favor Henrythenavigator -- after last year's nightmare with George Washington, I wonder if they would be so keen on trying the Breeders' Cup if this year's installment were at a muddy Belmont. Ginger Punch was not so lucky against Cocoa Beach in the Beldame and Street Boss was also outfinished in the Ancient Title, but neither could really be said to have run a terrible race -- they both just seemed a bit tired.

The new surface at Santa Anita proved no impediment to superstar Zenyatta; she's (almost always easily) beaten the best fillies of her generation, and Saturday's Lady's Secret was no different. Hystericalady gave it all she had, but when jockey Mike Smith asked Zenyatta to go, she loped off, leaving the few who dared to face her in the dust. Her consummate ease in the Distaff division suggests that she might take a crack at the Classic - but perhaps next year. Let her win the Filly & Mare Classic this go-round, let the dust settle and swoop in for next year's Classic Classic. If she's this good at 4, she could be even more of a monster at 5 -- and I would not be surprised if retirement was an easy excuse for some top colts to duck her.

Curlin's record-breaking Jockey Club Gold Cup repeat was almost coolly professional; he clearly knew just what he had to do and dispatched his rivals with no trouble once called upon. He's earned his place in history while the rest of his agemates sat on the sidelines watching -- and I doubt they would have matched his success. I was not a Curlin fan during last year's Triple Crown series; I didn't like the path he took to the Derby, I didn't like his jailbird owners and I especially did not like that he was switched from Helen Pitts to Steve Asmussen. I give a lot of credit to Jess Jackson for trying to iron out the ownership situation and even more to the horse himself for proving what he was capable of. Here's hoping we see him in the Classic - and, if we are lucky, next year. We'll see how he settles in at Santa Anita.

Of course, there were many other fine performances -- Wait a While's Yellow Ribbon was another confident victory by a star, although her effort is being somewhat eclipsed by Curlin and Zenyatta's stories -- but having watched Zenyatta win, it's easy to see why others seem to pale in comparison.

Check back later this week for more on last weekend's races (which will likely involve a discursion into folklore -- you have been warned) and a preview of Sunday's Arc, which should see Zarkava take on Duke of Marmalade...

Update 4093: Some wild and wet weather this morning at Woodbine. Thunder and lightening rolled in later in the morning, and my last horse (Terry Jordan's) stayed in the shedrow as the thunderstorm loomed directly overhead! The six I galloped for Steve all went nicely. Which was good because of a distinct lack of sleep from last night's benefit could have made for a tough morning's work! Now time to recuperate a little, although I am having lunch with some of the LongRun people!

Update 4092: Peppers Pride is in the entries for Saturday at Zia Park, New Mexico. She is attempting to increase her winning streak to seventeen races and set a modern day record: Peppers Pride Seeks Record 17th Win.

Last night we, Darren Dominic and I, attended a benefit for fellow exercise rider Matt Douglas. Matt suffered third degree burns in a barbeque accident last week and will be out of action for a good while. It was good to see so many people out in support of Matt. The highlight of the evening was a "bidding war" between jockeys Jono Jones and Tyler Pizarro for a picture that I am not entirely sure either of them wanted. Fun to watch and all for a great cause.

In memory of John Hettinger please keep calling and writing.

For Canadians: Canadian Horse Defense Coalition Call to Action.

Comments

Hiya, FsOB! It's one of those rare days when I reset the alarm for another 15 minutes of shut-eye. Challenging times that we are living in these days; I have to remind myself to say "Be like Barbaro" when I feel overwhelmed.

Alex, that sounds like a nice charity event for your friend Matt Douglas. I hope that the yield will help defray some of his medical expenses.

Wishing everyone a safe day. Healing thoughts to Chief, Lukas, Chessie, Sherman, & Loretta & Heart!

#### Marg, glad that our FsOB in Downeast Maine are all safe!
To Renee & Jane: Thanks for your kind words last night. ####

Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at September 30, 2008 11:30 AM

#### I am blue-linked challenged, but please join me in lighting some candles on Gratefulness for Barb's kitty named 153, who passed on yesterday. ####

Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at September 30, 2008 11:36 AM

...an emotional day yesterday, with the news on our bill, and losing 153....


####
On the DB, is a horse rescued from a kill auction last month who needs emergency surgery, which will take place at New Bolton by Barbaro's beloved Dr. Dean...assistance is needed for his transport and aftercare

any help would be appreciated


"HMER: Please Help Larrup Emerg. Surgery"


Posted by: FG at September 30, 2008 12:30 PM

Hay, FOB's!

###
Just a few minutes before leaving for work...

###
Barb, my prayers to you and to 153 for a smooth transition. Open your heart and you will feel the shining spirit very close to you...I promise.

###
Prayers to Chief, Lukas, Sherman...all those furbabies and humans in need of support.

###
Maribel, I'll e-mail you tonight when I get home. Had a brief communication from a friend in Vegas whose father had prostate cancer.

###
I'm not surprised by the news of HR 6598. Angered...but not surprised. This is such a critical time for all of us...but now I will put my energy work efforts into getting this bill passed so those who are so ready to help with the "unwanted" horses can step up to take care of them.

###
We REALLY need a powerball winner...I'm doing my part.

You are all the greatest.

All Love
Padme A'Tea

Posted by: Padme A'Tea (Lyn Gilbert) at September 30, 2008 12:39 PM

Good Morning Barbaro

Love you...miss you...we are here, your family living in the House that Barbaro Built.

We will keep you and your heavenly frens....candles glowing....eternal flame...you are with us in spirit and we thank you.

Good Morning Family/Fans of Barbaro

PLEASE CALL, FAX, EMAIL....WE HAVE TO SAVE OUR BEAUTIFUL HORSES.....we get it...Congress needs to get it.

Please...let us Clean Sweep Congress....get out and vote...we need to show them the work for we the people, for the people and by the people.

Remember and help our rescues....please read the db....our Fallen Angels, the ones suffering human or animal, our wildlife, and always our loving family.

Prayers go out to my family....each of you are very special to me...and so loved...never could I find a family like this...and very thankful.

Have a nice day.

###
Good Morning Alex.
Good Morning Tim And Fair Hill.

Posted by: joan roya at September 30, 2008 1:24 PM

###
Everyone!

MHR's Jerri, Hope's mother made a huge breakthrough in trust yesterday on the Four Month Birthday of Nellie's Hope. You must remember that unlike Apple, Jerri was fearful and a bit unpredictable.

Her is the Video... http://s216.photobucket.com/albums/cc166/Miraclehorserescue01/?action=view¤t=JerrisBreakthrough.flv

Ro & Brady

Posted by: Rosemarie at September 30, 2008 1:39 PM

I am laughing my ass off listening to Bush's special little on-tv speech whining about the 12 (twelve) votes he needs to pass his gazillion dollar recovery package.

Cav you imagine the palm greasing going on all over the Hill? In those "smokey little rooms?" haha

Damn, I think we know that feeling of looking for those elusive votes.

I hope they all fry in hell....most of them. Right along side with the kill buyers. Just think what fun they'll have trying to do deals with THOSE guys?

Yes, I am bitter about HR6598. But we'll get there, and this time, it won't be so pretty.

Posted by: jonnagrey at September 30, 2008 1:58 PM

Good morning, fellow Fans.

I'm feeling somewhat defeated by the turn of events in DC., not only for the horses but for all the good people of this country. Everywhere there are folks working so hard just to make a difference in their little corner of the world and it seems as if the universe is conspiring against them. That being said, we all have the capacity to bounce back. Our resilience knows no bounds, especially when it comes to the horses.

Please, join me if you can in celebrating what we're all about here and donate any amount to the NY horses seized several weeks ago. They are hungry! Even just $4 will buy one bale of hay.

URGENT-hay drive for seized horses in NY

Thank you.

Marg
Proud Fan of Barbaro forever

Posted by: Marg in Maine at September 30, 2008 1:59 PM

Yesterday was not a good day. Not for FOBs and not for those who have lost their furkid or are dealing with serious health issues - whether theirs or their loved ones or furkids. Sorry to hear about 153, Barb. Sandra, praying Chief does better today. Mary S. - praying Sherman is better today. Maribel, praying for Hans. Jonna, praying for you, Heart and all your furkids. If I've missed anyone - forgive me. I had little time yesterday to read the comments.

I'm also asking prayers and kind thoughts for Barbi M. She's having an extremely difficult time right now.

Let's all hope we get some good news today, whether about our FOB family, our country or just about anything good.

Janice
A forever devoted to Kaiser FOB

Posted by: janicefromflorida at September 30, 2008 2:00 PM

It is a good day. Just look at the horses that have been saved because of the FOB's, look at the horses in rescues who are being fed and well cared for because of the FOB's, look at the growing knowledge of the horrific practice of horse slaughter because of the FOB's, look at the care, love and support you have shown for each other when a loved one - human or animal - is sick or has passed away. Keep your faith, hope and charity and we will prevail.

Posted by: LindaB at September 30, 2008 2:24 PM

####
Barb M ,sorry for your loss,another cut to the heart.
You have done more for the animals than anyone I personally know.
Your fur kids are safe in heaven,and I send out prayers to you and them.
Janice Kaiser will be greeting them,along with Barbaro.

Posted by: BRENDA RYDER at September 30, 2008 2:29 PM

Dear Frens:
HEART ATE BREAKFAST!!!!
Cream of wheat, cottage cheese and roasted chicken pieces...thank you jesus. She hit one spot last night and never moved from it. And around 9 pm, she had that old-dog smile on her face. I treasured it...

Must go get Heart food....Love my FoB. Support and hugs to all peeps who are mourning. Barb, I know it seems like forever....but your heart will mend....beat up, but mended. And one day, another kitteh will call your name.

Thank You Alex: for all you do.

Posted by: jonnagrey at September 30, 2008 3:29 PM

Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 30, 2008 3:44 PM

Dear Frens,

In the face of a huge set-back on the Federal level...I propose STATE Legislation action.

Perhaps now is the time for us to begin to formulated a plan on how we might be able to effect anti-transport legislation in the STATES bordering Canada and Mexico...and Texas.

If we could ban transport through those states, with still fines and confiscatiuon of horses and vehicles, perhaps THAT will be the best way to accomplish our ultimate goal of no American horses being so brutally betrayed.

I hope that we may yet find a way...never giving up...

Your FOB Fren, O

Posted by: Otherlyn at September 30, 2008 3:46 PM

Dear Frens,

In the face of a huge set-back on the Federal level...I propose STATE Legislation action.

Perhaps now is the time for us to begin to formulated a plan on how we might be able to effect anti-transport legislation in the STATES bordering Canada and Mexico...and Texas.

If we could ban transport through those states, with stiff fines and confiscatiuon of horses and vehicles, perhaps THAT will be the best way to accomplish our ultimate goal of no American horses being so brutally betrayed.

I hope that we may yet find a way...never giving up...

Your FOB Fren, O

Posted by: Otherlyn at September 30, 2008 3:47 PM

######### another mother's son to pray for, folks - this comes from a music friend of mine who ALWAYS makes her calls for the horses AND sends to her mlg lists whenever I ask -

sharing email I rec'd last night, so the surgery was this morning. Will let you know the outcome. Thanks in advance and excuse me for asking, them being as removed from me as they are - but Dawn is one of my buds and has never asked me for anything like this before.


Hi,

One of my co-worker's son is having surgery tomorrow morning again. He has a hereditary disease called VHP. He is the youngest person to be affected by this. He has had numerous surgeries and probably will have more. This disease makes lesions in any part of his body and those lesions have to be removed. Tomorrow is one of the more serious surgeries he will have because it involves the spine.

So please keep 22 yr old Adam La Costa in your prayers and his mother Lisa too. Send them light and love, courage and strength. And please pray for the doctor too that God will guide his hand and heal Adam.

Thank you,

Dawn

[Dawn is truly an FOB though she never comes here. Thanks in advance - Auntie CJ.]

Posted by: CJaffe at September 30, 2008 3:55 PM

Friends,

Again, thank you for all your kind words and thoughts about 153.

This morning my eyes are nearly swollen shut, applied some ice, but then just start crying all over again. We've all been through this, and I know it will get better. I really appreciate the support here, and from my family, of course. I always seem to take it the worst. The kids are pretty much grown up now, and they have more control over their emotions. My son is pretty upset. He could not handle it yesterday. I know that. He shuts things out, but he did share with me.

153 was my kitty. Although we have others in the house, she was my "best bud," sleeping on my pillow at night, and, in fact, making sure none of the others did!

So, last night was one of the roughest nights I've ever had, with her not being there.

Writing today to get out some of my thoughts and it is cathartic and beneficial.

Thanks, my friends. Prayers for all fur babies out there today, and for Susan and Maribel.

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at September 30, 2008 3:57 PM

###Would someone please be so kind as to explain to me how it is that we can donate tons of money to pay the feedlot owners, owners just trying to make a buck by selling their now unwanted or unable to keep their horse any longer, but when we can get a horse for free, there is never anywhere to place him.

Emily posted about a grey horse TIMEX in PA/DEL/MD area a few days ago, several rescues have been contacted, and the thread bumped up several times, all to no avail.

Is it as simple as the fact that this particular horse is no doubt low on the future adoption list, therefore, no one can take him?

Another question, when FOBs donate and a horse is saved and goes to a rescue, is rehabed, and then adopted out for say, $500, why isnt there a general fund that some of that money can be put in for future rescues. I realize it costs lots of money to keep a horse for a time to rehab them, but is there never any funds left over to then save another one.

I realize I dont have a clue as to how all of the rescues operate, but is a general fund for FOB saved horses even a feasible idea????

Just wondering how this all works. Please, no one take offense. I am just asking.

Thank you.
Ellie az

Posted by: ellie at September 30, 2008 4:07 PM

Sept. 30 Cherokee Devotional [sharing email from Harriette Brillianthawk]

Careless words and controversial thought can hang in the invisible like dust clouds and clog thinking and comprehension like the webs of cobbies. Personal space should be kept as clean as the plate you eat off of--and you should never open the door to heedless opinion.

The atmosphere swarms with spoken words--and most are hostile and hardened by experience. If each of us could see with the naked eye our own personal words, even without the multitudes that belong to others, we would be appalled. The computer shows what is preserved on the internet, but think what people verbally send into the ethers--and every word frozen in time.

Black Hawk is a true Indian. He feels for his wife and children, his friends...they will suffer. He laments their fate.

Black Hawk
Sac, circa 1800

Posted by: CJaffe at September 30, 2008 4:30 PM

####
BarbAZ....you are in our hearts...we all have walked your path...God Bless you.

Posted by: joan roya at September 30, 2008 4:34 PM

Sending All, All All My Love........Prayers......
...Rainbows.......To Angel Barbaro........Our
Angel Horses........Barbaro's Famblee Of So, So
So Beautiful Angels......Angel Alex.......Angel
Wendy.......Your Angelic Hearts Of Love.......
Your Golden Wings Of Love In So, So So Beautiful
Rainbows.......I Love You So A Lot So.........
You Are In My Heart So (8) A Lot So........

The Wings Of Prayer.......
Our Angel Horses........
Barbaro's Angels........

So, So So Special Prayers.........
Angel Maribel, Angel Hans, Angel Barb AZ, Chunky
And Punky And Precious Angel 153, Angel Mary S.
And Sherman, Angel Adam LaCosta And Angel Lisa,
Angel Jonna And Heart, Angel Jane And Lucas,
Angel Tammie And Cheesie, Angel Sandra And Chief,
Angel Loretta........God's Love For You.........
Glowing Hearts........

God's Treasures In Rainbows

The Rainbows At Appear In The Sky
And The Stars At Night
Divine Hope
And So, So So Special Wishes...........

Glowing.........
In Halos...........

Affirmed

Posted by: Dee Mirich at September 30, 2008 5:01 PM

FROM ME TO ALL WHO ARE EXHAUSTED AND JUST DON'T FEEL TO MAKE THAT LITTLE EXTRA EFFORT TO FIND JOE WITH DEBBIE L.A.
****************************************************
Tuesday, September 30th... All of this happened yesterday afternoon... a man phones and begs me to take his 3 horses. A lady phones and begs me to take her very old mare. Another lady phones and says she will give me $100.00 if I agree to take her blind old mare. A family in a town not far away, and could I please come pick up their wild mustang? On the phone a lady says her old paint mare is crippled, so would I send someone to euthanize her. A man who works for a magazine offered me $500.00 if I would send him pictures of Northern California feed lots. A lady not far from Reno wants me to take her very old thoroughbred gelding. A man calls to say he wants a race horse so he can go very fast on an endurance ride. The man says make sure it is a big horse, because he weighs almost 300 pounds. Higbys Feed Store is having a party on Saturday, and I could win prizes. A lady phones to complain about her teenage daughter who no longer listens, so could the daughter come live with Cathy and I? Two different men were at our front gate seeking employment. A lady calls and asks me to drive to a field outside of Fresno and pick up two horses who no one is feeding. At our front gate is Sarah, she is 14, and could she please take pictures of a very skinny horse for her school report? And then it was 4:30, and time to feed supper to 115 horses.

It takes almost 3 hours to feed this joint, and darkness is coming much earlier...

But before all of that there was this. Morning. Monday began with a flat tire on our tractor. Impossible for a simple old man to deal with. I cannot say enough good things about Bill Lowe Tire in Woodland. They always come right to our ranch to make life better. The giant tire was removed, and soon it was discovered the air valve needed fixing. Bill Lowe Tire could have said I need a new giant tire, and charged me a mortgage payment. No way I would know the difference. Instead it was a quick fix, and our tractor was back in business.

And then horse killer John Capers phones to say he has a young thoroughbred gelding, 40 cents a pound. And then horse killer Manny Phelps phones to say he has an old thoroughbred mare, 30 cents a pound. Every Monday morning most horse killers give me their inventory. Large stock trailers filled with doomed horses usually leave for Canada on Tuesday nights.

Both the young gelding and old mare were rescued, and they come to us tomorrow.

And then it was employment at another ranch, and what a thrill to scoop the poop of others...

At our front gate a nicely wrapped package. Inside a red and white shirt, and two pair of very colorful socks. I assume the shirt and colorful socks are for the girl who loves Cope, and not for me. Just a hunch.

And now here we are on the last day of another month, and where did September go? Later we could be 88 degrees. Hot coffee is from Peets, and I can actually feel the cream danish with melted butter clogging an artery. Simon & Garfunkel on the oldies station. Enjoy your yet another Tuesday without American Idol, and be sure to hug your horses.

Joe

Posted by: jonnagrey at September 30, 2008 5:52 PM

####
Barb
I hug you. I hug you once again. You are one of the first memories of being an FoB: Chunky, Punky....Sigh: 100 years ago, dear Fren. You will heal. (Funny hoe I absolutely KNEW whjere that little Kitteh slept every night, huh?) Kitteh whispers in the ear.

((((((((((((((Missed you, Sweet Dee))))))))))))))))

XXOO:j
COURAGE

Posted by: jonnagrey at September 30, 2008 5:57 PM

Hi Everyone,
Another day my heart aches for my famblee in so much pain. I wish I could hug all of you and make all the bad go away for you. Sending you prayers for your comfort and white light to protect you all.

Jane,
Lunch and meeting famblee, sounds great!

Lucas,Chief, Chessie,Sherman, Loretta and Heart. All of you have strick orders to get better. Lets go fur babies, get well soon.

Marj,
Hunny we will not be defeated! We will win in Barbaro's name and the beautiful horses of the United States.

Jonna,
Yippppppppppppppppppe! Time to do a happy dance my fren. Your heart is lighter today. Dance girlfren!

Any work from Mary S. about Sherman?

Hi Barbaro,I love you. You are tucked in my heart and keep me going.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 30, 2008 6:47 PM

I Love You So A Lot So Angel Jonna. You Are In My Heart So (8) A Lot So.

All, All All Angelic Beautiful Glowing Rainbows
To You........

Affirmed

Posted by: Dee Mirich at September 30, 2008 8:29 PM

I started my very first virtual stable recently after Nancy brought to my attention that Edgar Prado had won a race with Crazy Cat Lady. Found this in my inbox, and really don't know whether this is a good time or not.

This notice is to inform you that one or more of your horses has worked out.
Crazy Catlady
Your Comment: won w/ Prado 9/11/08

Date: September 30, 2008
Track: BELMONT PARK
Distance: Four Furlongs
Time: 49:08 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt training
Rank: 18/83

Four Furlongs in 49:08 breezing, also shows her rank as 18/83. Is this good or what?

What race(s) is she likely to be looking at, at Belmont? Anybody know?

-------------------
Well I was gonna try to answer my own question, so I googled "Crazy Catlady racehorse + Edgar Prado" and was shocked to see several posts by moi, at TWR, pop up, from the very old days - gotta share this with you all. (This was before I edited my moniker to Craziest, not just Crazy, Catlady, and when I was Pleasure's not Shona's, Aunt.)

repost from when we were still waiting for ACN

What a wonderful way to start our Sunday. Such a good progress report from such impeccable sources. Alex you are truly a wonder! Here's my first contribution of the day:

http://www.newsday.com/sports/columnists/ny-spwally144816988jul14,0,7686309.column?coll=ny-sports-columnists

Though this is 2 days old, it contains some quotes from Edgar Prado I hadn't seen before, that I wanted to share here. The piece is dated 7/14 and refers to an interview on the previous day between races at Belmont. Especially the last paragraphs, set out below:

After the seventh race, in which he finished second on a claiming horse named Paige Nicole, Prado admitted his mind was more on the horse he believed was going to take him all the way to the Triple Crown.

"As long as he's alive, there's hope, and that's the last thing you want to lose," Prado said. "If you're going to give up every time something like this happens, there would be many people dead and many animals dead."

To Prado, the answers to the questions regarding the Jacksons and their extraordinary efforts to save Barbaro are simple and obvious.

"Many, many, many people dream of standing in the winner's circle on Kentucky Derby Day," he said. "That horse gave those people the biggest thrill of their lives, and I think they were just trying to give something back. I mean, that's the least we can do for these horses. Give them one more chance."

Well said, Mr. Prado, or as my grandparents would have said, Gut gezugt!

We're all more relaxed and peaceful now while hoping/praying/meditating/singing/dancing/
whatever-ing in our own respective ways, for a long and happy outcome. Far as I'm concerned, we don't have to ask for a miracle. We are in the middle of one already. An ongoing one. Don't you think?

Peace. Hope. Love. CJ the crazy cat lady (Blackie's Mother & Pleasure's Aunt) in Hammond, IN

Posted by: C. Jaffe at July 16, 2006 4:14 PM

Well I still think we are . . . it's unfolding constantly amongst us . . .

Posted by: CJaffe at September 30, 2008 10:12 PM

Chief is home. He is doing fairly well today. He is on a bunch of stomach pills. The stomach x-rays didnt show much. If he has another flareup the vet is going to do a stomach biospy and send it to Texas A&M. He has slept most of the day but I think he is tired from his hospital stay. He does have an enlarged heart and a heart murmur but he is 13 so that is fairly normal. His vet said we are really back to square one with him. His nurses said he was a true gentleman in his hospital stay. This about a dog that for the first 10 years of his life had to meet the vet in the parking lot he was so nervous about going in. I am very proud of him for overcoming his abuse he had when he was a pup and fear of people. Now he considers everyone his buddy. I may have said all ths yesterday but for the last few days I have been so worried couldnt think straight. We arent out of the woods yet but thanks so much to all of you for prayers and good thoughts for him.

Posted by: sandra at September 30, 2008 10:33 PM

(((((((((((((((Chief)))))))))))))))Get Better(((((((Sandra)))))))In my thoughts

Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 30, 2008 10:39 PM

Input from an IN Rep re HR 6598

This is from Rep Mike Pence (IN 6th) (not mine, but friendly staff always takes my input). Thought you'd like to see. He voted YES on HR 503 in the 109th but did not cosponsor it either in the 109th or 110th. (He is on the Jud Comm; this is his response to email I sent before the last Jud Com markup.)

ANYWAY - though not a cs of HR 6598, IMO he is a definite "YES" whenever the vote comes up.

ttyl - cheers & hugs - CJ in Hammond IN


Dear Caroline:

Thank you for contacting me in regards to H.R. 6598, the Prevention of Equine Cruelty Act of 2008. It is a pleasure to hear from you.

Representative John Conyers of Michigan introduced this legislation on July 24, 2008. H.R. 6598 would make illegal the possession, transportation, and selling of horses and horseflesh with the intent of human consumption. This bill also defines the punitive action required for violation of these provisions.

I believe in the humane treatment of animals, including the welfare of unwanted or unusable horses. I understand that some have concerns about the underlying problems associated with unwanted horses. However, as you may know I am an avid horseback rider and have great apprehension about the slaughter of horses for human consumption.

Again, thank you for contacting me. It is an honor to serve in the United States House of Representatives and have the benefit of your advice. If you would like more information on this or any other issue, please visit my website at http://mikepence.house.gov.

Warmest regards,

Mike Pence
Member of Congress

Posted by: CJaffe at September 30, 2008 10:39 PM

Barb in AZ, There is nothing I can say that will make you feel better at this time. Just know you are not alone as we are all with you. Talk to us as I think it helps to talk about how you feel as that is what makes us famblee. We all love you.

Posted by: sandra at September 30, 2008 10:43 PM

##
Sandra, easy to say, but if you can, try to take it day by day. God willing, the new stomach meds will do the trick...

Prayers going out that he will be on the mend.

He has come a long way, thanks to you!

Fran

Posted by: FG at September 30, 2008 10:51 PM

jonna, so happy that Heart is doing so well. She is a sweetheart. ###jonna. do you know anything about Cerenia for dogs? I think it is for nausea for motion sickness. Chief is on 4 a day and also on 2 pepsid a day. Of course, its all to keep his stomach settled down.

Posted by: sandra at September 30, 2008 10:53 PM

Goodnight Barbaro

We love you...we are here...carrying out and finishing your tasks...you are certainly missed.

Goodnight Family/Fans of Barbaro

PLEASE CALL, FAX, EMAIL

We are a strong, united family of love and compassion....and we will see this bill passed and save beautiful horses.

Prayers to all who needs them....Chief, Jonna, Heart, Sandra...AND MY LOVING FOB FAMILY.

Please remember and help our rescues, read the db, our Fallen Angels, our wildlife, the ones suffering human or animal, and our family.

Have a nice evening....may God Bless each of you.

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Thank you and goodnight Alex.
Tim and Fair Hill...thank you.

Posted by: joan roya at September 30, 2008 11:02 PM

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Ellie az - Not enough drama surrounding Timex. Can you conjure up an Ugly Truck??

Posted by: redshadow at September 30, 2008 11:10 PM

My heart beats for your heart, Barbaro, always and forever! Run with the angels honey!
And all love to the entire Heavenly Herd . . . as you know you take me to where angels walk! As Angel Dee says "It is AFFIRMED!"

Holding hands, hooves, paws with the entire Barbaro Nation, and the ongoing prayer vigil for all two- and four-legged FOBs continues on with all my heart. Somehow I just keep hearing that song " . . . in the arms of the angels . . ." and continuing to send positive healing and comforting thoughts to all the so many in need here. . . . and may everyone here find some peace and comfort this night.

Regarding the legislation for our equine friends, yes, my heart is fractured, too, but I'm in this for our horses with all of you and for the duration.
Had it not been for "THE SUBLIME ONE", Mr. Bobbey Jackson himself, and for you, ALEX, for what you have done here we would not have made it this far (and thank you!). Bobbey Jackson never gave up and all of Bobbey's personal "peoples" never gave up and we won't either!

Well it is now THUNDERING loudly so I need to get the system down here . . . .

Love you all,
always,
Lou Ann

Posted by: Lou Ann R., FOB forever, PA at September 30, 2008 11:35 PM

Sandra,
Did the vet mention yogurt.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at September 30, 2008 11:36 PM

ADW Model Who's right Who's wrong

To much horse racing, it's not about the horses it's about the betting, and money!

Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 30, 2008 11:42 PM

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Sandra and Renee,

Yogurt is good - restores the beneficial bugs to the gut. Plus, the pups love it. Suggest not using the artificially sweetened type, though. Yogurt helped bring my very elderly Mom back from the brink after a nearly fatal bout of intestinal illness 2 years ago. She professes to hate yogurt, but I snuck in some Dannon smoothies and she never knew. She's going on 84.

Posted by: redshadow at September 30, 2008 11:45 PM

I Love You So A Lot So Angel Lou Ann. You Are In My Heart So (8) A Lot So. You Touch My Heart So A Lot So.

All, All All Angelic Beautiful Glowing Rainbows To You........

Affirmed

Posted by: Dee Mirich at September 30, 2008 11:47 PM

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Mary how is Sherman?

Prayers to all who are in need this night!
Wish we were still praying for ACN and ACD!! God how I miss the Big Bay Colt.

Alex thank you for all you have done, and all you continue to do for us! And the horses!

Still a bit down, but not giving up! Still here doing Barbaro's work! That's my job, that's what I do.

Posted by: Debbie L.A. at September 30, 2008 11:55 PM

On the DB, is a horse rescued from a kill auction last month who needs emergency surgery, which will take place at New Bolton by Barbaro's beloved Dr. Dean...assistance is needed for his transport and aftercare

any help would be appreciated - thanks!


"HMER: Please Help Larrup Emerg. Surgery"

Posted by: FG at October 1, 2008 12:09 AM

###Redshadow.....I know what you are saying re ugly truck.....but, this horse is going to be KILLED if Emily cannot find him a new home....and find one NOW.

That may not be as dramatic as the ugly truck....
but the horse is going to be DEAD all the same.

Can someone please help this guy???? He is only 14yo. Thank you. Ellie az

Posted by: ellie at October 1, 2008 12:47 AM

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Hay, Ellie, I wasn't ignoring you, but I just didn't have an answer for you. I should have said that. Sorry.

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at October 1, 2008 12:54 AM

Redshadow and Ellie, we haven't met. Hi noce to meet you.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at October 1, 2008 1:00 AM

nice

Posted by: Renee Antaya at October 1, 2008 1:01 AM

nice to meet you. sorry

Posted by: Renee Antaya at October 1, 2008 1:01 AM

Hay Barb....tnx for your reply. There are no easy answers. Im so sorry re kitty 153. It really hurts to lose our furry friends and I am so sorry you are having to go thru this pain.
It will get better, but never truly goes away.
I lost my dog of 14 years on Mothers Day 2007. It still hurts me daily.
Best wishes. Be kind to yourself and give it time.
Ellie az

Posted by: ellie at October 1, 2008 1:02 AM

Hi Renee.....nice to meet you too. We have talked before, though. Glad you have a place to go to visit with the horses at your rescue.
Best wishes to you.
Ellie az

Posted by: ellie at October 1, 2008 1:04 AM

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Ellie, I agree it's terrible that no one is expressing interest in Timex. I have no place to keep a horse at present, unfortunately. The pictures of Timex running free and fat and happy in those endless green pastures strike me as so sad. What has happened to make his people want to get rid of him? Have they lost those hundreds of green acres, or is there something else going on here? He does look adorable, and someone loves/ed him enough to put a fly mask on him. I don't get it >>

Posted by: redshadow at October 1, 2008 1:07 AM

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Renee, Nice........to meet you too, LOL!

Posted by: redshadow at October 1, 2008 1:09 AM

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Ellie and Barb, not ignoring anyone either, trying to come up with money to float the Alabama QH horses teeth. Has this horse been put on the DB? Surely some FOB's can help! Just a little tapped out right now!

Posted by: Debbie L.A. at October 1, 2008 1:10 AM

###Re TIMEX....according to the poster, (btw not the owner) Timex is unridable and due to our lousy economy, the owners can no longer afford to keep him.
I would love to have him in my pasture, the only problem, I have no pasture.

Deb...he is listed on DB under TIMEX......

Thank you all.

Ellie az

Posted by: ellie at October 1, 2008 1:15 AM

Debbie L.A.,
I can understand, unemployment does not go too far. I really have to find a job. Sheeeeesh

Posted by: Renee Antaya at October 1, 2008 1:24 AM

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Went to the vet today with Lukas and got the news I was dreading. He has a large tumor in his spleen upon ultrasound. We could do exploratory surgery, but the prognosis is poor. He had such a good day today running in the woods and eating his treats, now is ultra stressed after his ordeal. I hope I can deal with this in a sane way. Any extra prayers appreciated, you are all wonderful people. Many Thanks

Posted by: Jane at October 1, 2008 1:25 AM

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Oh, Jane, I am SO sorry. we went through something similar with our pooch of fifteen years. She also had a tumor on her spleen. She was bleeding internally, but the docs felt she would never survive any surgery.

We let her go quietly. She was not in any pain. A slow bleeding like she had just made her feel weak, but she didn't really suffer. She eventually fell into a coma. Maybe this won't be the case for Lucas. Let's pray it isn't.

Let me go start a candle group. I'll put them under "Lucas" and supply the link here.

You and Lucas are in our prayers.

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at October 1, 2008 1:32 AM

Jane,
I am so sorry for the news on Lucas. How sad! It is a tough decision, I remember my vet teling me they let us know, sure enough mine did and she went with peace and love. We are all here for you fren. Please just love him and keep all his memories in your heart it will keep you sane and a slight smile on your lips. God Bless you!

Posted by: Renee Antaya at October 1, 2008 1:38 AM

Good Night Dear FOB's,
Have a good night and sweet dreams. May all the furbabies who have passed over come and visit tonight.

To all the FOB's with heartache, may the grace of God bring you peace in your hearts.

Dearest Barbaro,
You are the best Champ, I love you. Sweet nickermaker dreams to you.

Good night Alex,
Thank you!

Posted by: Renee Antaya at October 1, 2008 1:42 AM

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OK. Problem. First of all, I spelled "Lucas" wrong. I know it is "Lukas" with a "k," but there is already a group under "Lukas," with many candles in a foreign language.

Jane, please advise. The groups can have up to five characters only. Let me know how you want to abbreviate his name, and I will start some candles, OK???

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at October 1, 2008 1:47 AM

Just talked with Vicki (Tobin). Bill is with the Ag Committee.
In my opinion, I think it would be a great mistake for any of us to give up fighting for HR 6598 before Congress officially adjourns for the year.

Rep. Conyers hasn't given up, and neither should we. There very well may be a lame-duck session following the election, and it that turns out to be the case, we need to be prepared!

If there is one thing that I've learned during the many years I've been fighting this battle, its that even when you think that all hope is lost, something incredible can happen that causes the tides to turn! We were handed 4 devastating losses inIllinois?before finally passing our bill. We were also initially defeated in our Texas legal battle, but we fought back and ultimately prevailed there as well. If we'd have given up then, Cavel, Beltex, and Dallas Crown would still be open and slaughtering horses in record numbers.

What we need to do now is dig in and fight even harder. If your Member is up for re-election and doesn' t support the bill, work your tail off to get him/her unseated! If your Member is uncomitted to the bill, tell him/her that you will only vote for them if they cosponsor the bill and pledge to help get it a full vote!

I agree that our chances this session appear grim, but nevertheless, there is still a small chance that the stars could align and a vote could be had. It ain't over til its over. Please keep working and fighting.

Gail (Vacca) glv190@aol.com


OK, I'm leaving again. LOL

Posted by: Renee Antaya at October 1, 2008 1:57 AM

Hiya, FsOB! Well, I promised to try to not have a drink or a glass of wine each Monday -> Thursady (in order to keep my alcohol intake

#### To Jane in CT: I am so very sorry that you received this news from Lukas' vet today. Please know that we here are all with you in spirit. I am glad that Lukas had such a great day yesterday. May he rest well tonight and please try to do the same, Jane.
To Sandra: Ms. Nikita asked me to tell you that she loves plain Greek yogurt! It is sold in our grocery stores up here. If you can't find it, you may want to try a bit of plain yogurt with Chief and see if he likes it. Also, it may be wish to check with the vet, just to make sure that the yogurt doesn't bind with any of his other meds and inactivate them.
To Barb in AZ: I lit candles for 153 this morning. I am so very sorry that you had trouble sleeping last night, Barb.
To Linda B: Thank you for your optimistic spirit. Linda. It helped buoy me this evening!
To Jonna: Thrillingly good news about Heart!
To CJ: Please know that I am sending good thoughts to Dawn's son, Adam. May he have a full recovery.
To Otherlyn: I would defer my inexpert opinion to that of the HSUS or other leg. advocates.... But I would worry that bringing any proposed legislation into State legislatures now could seriously backfire. The economy is now in such dire shambles, it could lead some policymakers to propose opening (or reopening) slaughterhouses in border states. But again, this is certainly not my area of expertise and I would trust in whatever guidance the HSUS might offer.
To Barb M.: I am sorry that you've had a sad week, Barb. Please hang in there, OK? ####

Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at October 1, 2008 2:00 AM

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Robyn, I saw your candles. Thank you so much.

Also, all else who lit candles to help 153 find her way are very much appreciated.

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at October 1, 2008 2:03 AM

Lord only knows what happened to the first part of my entry tonight. I didn't want anyone to think I'd gotten 'blotto' or anything. May we all be like Barbaro and keep our eyes on the prize! A good night to all citizens of the Barbaro Nation worldwide. Peace, RMH

Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at October 1, 2008 2:04 AM

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Barb, Thank you so much, you can abbreviate LKS or LCS, anyway is fine, it is the thoughts that count. He has gotten worse in the last hour, the stress of the ultrasound and vet visit were hard on him, almost sorry I went........

Posted by: Jane at October 1, 2008 2:06 AM

##### Jane,I am so sorry to hear the news about Lucas--I lost my dog Gryphon to that 57 days ago.Have some info that may make Lucas and you feel better. I had some extra quality time with Gryphon due to this new protocol. Email me pd2ryde@hotmail.com if you would like--I will be out tonite but will respond early tomorrow. Alison

Posted by: alison at October 1, 2008 2:17 AM

Jane, I am so sorry about Lukas' diagnosis. I know you will cherish and love him even more and when his time comes (later rather than sooner), it will be peaceful.

Sandra and Jonna, glad to hear your pups are doing better today! Chief has come so far....!

Barb AZ--what to say, what to day. 153 is your heart-cat. Always. I wish I had the magic words to make you stop hurting.

A little tuxedo angel cat is sending you purrs and kitty kisses and assurances that in time, it will be better.

Posted by: Susan E. at October 1, 2008 2:23 AM

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at October 1, 2008 2:38 AM

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Susan, thanks. It is just so hard. I know you know.

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at October 1, 2008 2:50 AM

Jane - sorry to hear about Lukas, when Nala was diagnosed with cancer they gave her a couple months if that -she lived almost 2 years with natural food, bottled water and canine immunity.
Don't give up hope. If you want info on canine immunity and some natural vets, you can email me at sirbear@bellsouth.net.

Prayers for Barb AZ who is grieving and all others who need support.

Brenda - thanks for your thoughts and support.

Posted by: Barb m in Florida at October 1, 2008 3:14 AM

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(Hey, jonna, you're probably asleep by now, but thanks for the hug, and here's one right back atcha.)

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Glad Chief is doing better, Sandra.

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Any word about Sherman? Did I miss it?

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at October 1, 2008 3:24 AM

FOB $1-$5 Alive Drive

We have just finished our 45th drive. Things have been moving a bit slower lately, but we are still working toward our goal of $100 at a time for rescued horses. We have raised over $4500 so far. I want to thank everyone for their donations and help. Remember we are only asking for a few dollars at a time.

Our next rescue is Ponytales. We are raising $100 for Rori's hospital bill.

For more information, please click below.

FOB $1-$5 Alive Drive

We need $100.

Thank-you!

Margie

Posted by: Margie at October 1, 2008 4:25 AM

Barb & Jane....I think somehow my message to 153 ended up on Lukas's candle site as well as 153's site...geeez. Apparently my mind was roaming around aimlessly but my heart was in the right place. Please forgive....Prayers going out to you both...
Tamme

Posted by: Tamme at October 1, 2008 4:57 AM

Sorry I've been away. I was getting sucked under by fear, and the feeling I was not doing enough for Sherman to get him out of pain - I was reeling. I had to take some time to focus and get more grounded..... I know you all know there is nothing worse than watching our animals suffer - this compassion is our link, our heart. I spent the day today giving Sherman Healing Touch, praying, and getting a list/plan together regarding some things that I hope will help him.

Today was a much better day. Yesterday he was down a few times - taking the weight off of his feet. He wasn't really eating. He was able to get up OK each time - so I am grateful. Today he was not down, and eating a little better. It really is a day by day (maybe hour by hour?) experience. I found a homeopathic remedy, Heel's Traumeel, that has had very promising results in relieving the pain of laminitis, without the risk associated with the conventional NSAID's. I will continue the gastorgard until it runs out.

I am confident your prayers make a difference for both of us. I am so grateful for the care and concern of Barbaro's board. I believe the spirit that connected all of us, continues to guide us, heart to heart.

Please keep praying for us - that Sherman is free of pain, and I am directed and guided for his right and perfect care. I have more peace of mind today. We will get through this with your prayers and support, and I am learning to take it one day at a time. With my guys, I tend to want to fix it right away.... This is not, not.... a quick fix.

I am going out tomorrow. I will spend the night there, and return Thursday morning. I am bringing his favorite things - iceberg lettuce, cucumbers - and I hope he will try orange peel (?) I have been told that helps with inflammation. I will encourage him with love and support. I am with him always. I know he feels the prayers - and I do too.

Thank you God, and thank you all for your support.

Love, Light and Protection for All of Our Horses

Posted by: Mary S at October 1, 2008 4:59 AM

###Sandra...you're probably asleep so will post this tomorrow too. Cerenia has been a wonderful nausea drug for my cat Chessie. I started him on it last week and he has done great. The vet assures me there are no major side effects. Chessie ALWAYS throws up repeatedly in the car and with the Cerenia he made the trip fine. I give him a half a pill a day just to keep his tummy settled due to his ongoing kidney issues.
My only complaint is its expensive but worth it.
Glad to hear Chief had a better day today. Prayers going out to you both...
Tamme

Posted by: Tamme at October 1, 2008 5:02 AM

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LOL, Tamme. I've screwed up over there before! We love ya!

I'm actually feeling a "calm" I have not felt before. I know 153 is happy, and it doesn't matter whether I am or not.

It's a nice feeling, and one I'm going to take to bed with me now.

Good night everybody. Good night, Alex.

Good night Barbaro.

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at October 1, 2008 5:04 AM

###Mary...so glad to hear Sherman had a better day today. Continued prayers for you both.

And you are so right...compassion is our link ...our heart.
Tamme

Posted by: Tamme at October 1, 2008 5:06 AM

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Mary, thanks for the report. I've been wondering. I'm glad to hear he has had a better day. Prayers continue.

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at October 1, 2008 5:08 AM

## Mary - Glad that both you and Sherman are feeling better. Am I reading this right ...
he likes iceberg lettuce and cucumbers ????

Sherry

Posted by: sherry at October 1, 2008 7:03 AM

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