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    Barbaro Updates: 503

    updates are now here.

    Update 3060: Better Talk Now is set to resume his long and consistently successful career at the Fair Grounds this weekend: Better Talk Now in FG Handicap.

    Curlin and Pyro both worked this morning, but seperately: Curlin, Pyro look strong in separate works, excerpt:

    Both horses breezed alone Tuesday, with Curlin coming out first, just after 6:30, and his work, in a word, was breathtaking. Curlin broke off at a good clip at the seven- eighths pole, went a strong pace down the backstretch, and finished powerfully, earning a seven-furlong clocking of 1:25.20. He was timed galloping out a mile in 1:38.60, while trainer Steve Asmussen caught Curlin going out nine furlongs in 1:52.80.

    "I guess that's why they gave him the gold trophy," Asmussen said, referring to Curlin's Horse of the Year award.

    Pyro is scheduled to make his 2008 debut this weekend in the Risen Star.

    Update 3059: Superfecta here, with your regular Tuesday update:

    With the news that Curlin is skipping this weekend's events in Louisiana to head over to Dubai early (more on that later), Grasshopper has stepped up to contest the Mineshaft in his absence; Better Than Bonds will also be making an appearance in that race. Most eyes will be on the three-year-olds, though, in the Risen Star. Steve Asmussen contributes Pyro and Z Fortune to the mix; Blackberry Road and Visionaire could hit the board as well, although I'm not sure they are in the same class at this point. I did contemplate putting both Blackberry Road and Visionaire in my Road the the Roses stable, but finally left them off (for now); usually, that's a sign they are about to become very competitive. Let's not forget the distaff side either -- Indian Blessing should be back in the Silverbulletday as well.

    Of course, there's becoming very competitive and staying very competitive -- in that category, stalwart Better Talk Now (left) is set to make his nine-year-old debut in the Fair Grounds Handicap, with a view to moving on to Dubai for the Sheema Classic. Did I mention we're friends?

    But back to Curlin's trip to Dubai -- I have mixed feelings, and not just about the 'they're never the same after the trip' received wisdom. On the one hand, I know that the Dubai competition will be much tougher than the Breeders' Cup level, and I can see Asmussen's point:

    The horse likes to know where he's at,'' Asmussen said. "His second race at Belmont (the Gold Cup) was better than his first (the Belmont), and his second race at Monmouth (the BC Classic) was better than his first (the Haskell)."

    On the other, it would have been nice to see him start in the US, just so fans could get a chance to see him -- especially since his role as a symbol for fans to rally around is much mentioned by Jess Jackson:

    "I deeply care about improving the state of Thoroughbred racing as well as the horse industry in general, he said.

    We, as the owners of Curlin, are trying to do our part to help. Fellow owners and I have joined others in the industry in a broad-based (American) effort to elevate the industry in a variety of ways, and this campaign is one of the more visible."

    I would like to know who the 'others' mentioned are and what exactly their goals are...but I digress. If he wins and comes back to an exciting campaign later this year, fantastic -- but there's always that concern that he'll be sold in a handshake deal while he's abroad.

    There's good news in breeding land; Fleet Indian had a healthy Storm Cat colt, Behaving Badly foaled a Bernardini colt and Teuflesberg has recovered well enough to head to Hurricane Hall to start his new career. Well done to all of them.

    Update 3058: A warm and muggy morning this morning at Sam Houston Race Park. We had a pretty busy morning, with ten sets. Six before the break and four after the break. All mine went nicely except for one, which was due to equipment failure. As I was galloping (slowly) down the stretch on a horse I ride particularly short (length of leg) I heard a "pop" from the saddle. I looked down and all looked well ... and then my left stirup broke loose from the saddle. If I was riding long this would not have been (much) of a problem, but not so. I fell quickly to the left ... and had that feeling ... "shit, here we go, I am off" ... but fortunately I managed to pull myself back in place as my horse did not flinch and kept a very straight course. This was all luck more than anything. Anyway, I kicked my right leg out of its iron and continued the rest of the gallop without irons. Fortunately all was well, and the only harm will be me being a little stiff later with my inner thigh muscles. PHEW!

    Update 3057: Steve Haskin reviews the Derby contenders in light of last week's races: Ky. Derby Trail: Of Thorns & Roses.

    Curlin's plans in Dubai include a prep race at the end of February: Curlin's 2008 debut will come in Dubai, excerpt:

    Asmussen said Curlin would ship overseas on Feb. 15, giving him about two weeks to acclimate in advance of his first start since winning the Breeders' Cup Classic on Oct. 27. Curlin's comeback will come at Nad Al Sheba in a $175,000 handicap race contested at the Dubai World Cup distance of 2,000 meters, or about 1 1/4 miles.

    Please keep calling and writing, and consider coming to DC for March 4 and 5.

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    Start by doing what's necessary, then what's possible and suddenly you are doing the impossible.

    Saint Francis of Asissi


    *************************
    CALLING ALL TARHEELS
    *************************

    North Carolina REALLY needs your help
    to pass S311 / HR503..

    If you want to join the NC anti slaughter group
    please email:

    antislaughterlobby@earthlink.net

    Posted by: Christian at February 5, 2008 11:10 AM

    Hiya, FsOB! Wishing each of you a "super Tuesday". I'll be heading out early this AM to vote in the primary (for someone who "gets it") and then head off to RI. Wishing you a positive and productive day! Peace, RMH

    #### To Lynne Brown, please give Charlie a kiss for me, too, OK?
    To Laurie H: How are Bart and Ms. Montego doing? ####

    Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at February 5, 2008 11:51 AM

    ### Robyn

    It is Shrove Tuesday as well. Will you all have pancakes?

    Posted by: Liz (UK) at February 5, 2008 12:04 PM

    Get out and vote today all super tuesday states. Love to Barbaro. Thanks Alex

    Posted by: jane at February 5, 2008 12:08 PM

    Morning primary and Mardi Gras skritches to the BBH, Sir JH, Gorgeous G and the rest of their fabulous frens in Equine Heaven...

    As for down below, between the revels:

    MORNING POST, SHELLEYA, DEBRA, WI

    STRATEGY FOR TUESDAY FEBRUARY 5

    Most of you already know that there is an exciting event coming up in DC on March 4 and 5th. Please click on the thread “Invitation from Paula Bacon” under the anti slaughter section of the DB or on top of the comment section. We need the FOB’s to come out in force to support this event. If you are coming, please make sure you contact Julie so you can be included in the count.

    The recent victory in South Dakota proves that all Americans can make a difference. Not just the money people or lobbyists but the caring compassionate people sitting with their computers, fax machines and telephones. However, there will always be another South Dakota and horse slaughter plants trying to rear their ugly heads in this country again. We MUST get the federal legislation passed to make sure that never happens and to protect our horses from the inhumane transportation to a brutal death in other countries.

    In the past few weeks, newspapers have been full of news about the impact of the closure of the U.S. horse slaughterhouses last year. They are saying that abandonment, abuse, and horses found left on the roadside has increased. They have even been asserting ridiculously that there are now thousands of unwanted horses roaming around the country. They then warn that passing legislation to ban horse slaughter and export for slaughter will have even more dire consequences for our poor horses than what we are seeing now. YOU MUST SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT. Make sure that your Senators don’t fall for this propoganda.

    Please contact your Senators and Representatives and let them know how important it is to move quickly on this legislation. Let our co-sponsors know that we appreciate their support but we need more…..we need action. Let those still sitting on the fence know how close we came to once again knowing the horrors of horse slaughter on Amercian soil.

    After calling your Senators and Representatives to let them know how important this issue is, please contact Leadership about getting this to the floor for a vote.

    LIST WITH LEADERSHIP OFFICE TELEPHONE NUMBERS
    Senate Majority Leader: Harry Reid ph: 202-224-2158 fax: 202-224-7327

    Senate Minority Leader: Mitch McConnell ph: 202-224-3135 fax: 202-226-1374

    Senate President Pro Tempore: Robert C. Byrd ph: 202-224-3954 fax: 202-228-0002

    Assistant Majority Leader: Dick Durbin ph: 202-224-9447 fax: 202-228-0400

    Assistant Minority Leader: Jon Kyl ph: 202-224-4521 fax: 202-228-0034

    Remember….WE ARE BARBARO’SVOICE…….let it be heard!!!
    Thanks for all your hard work and dedication.
    Shelley and Debra

    Posted by: ShelleyA at February 4, 2008 11:42 PM

    Cheers,
    Friar Tuck

    Posted by: Friar Tuck at February 5, 2008 12:10 PM

    Good (early) morning all, it is off to work today, may you all have very good and productive days.
    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Sassy
    In memory of a great girl, Sassy, please keep her in your rpayers.

    Love to CJ and Pearl on this difficult day- may the angels be with you always... The FOB will be there!

    Posted by: JackieTundra at February 5, 2008 12:11 PM

    Good morning, keep calling. Let your Senator know that it's about what you want, not what they want.

    We can do this!!!

    Posted by: Carol Nichols at February 5, 2008 1:02 PM

    Good Morning Barbaro

    ACN...what a beautiful night...but why not...Barbaro you are beautiful to us in so many ways...we love you and miss you!

    Good Morning Family/Fans of Barbaro

    PLEASE CALL, FAX, EMAIL.....

    As today is Super Tuesday....and we hear the candidates saying CHANGE....THEN OUR CONGRESS NEEDS TO CHANGE....AND STOP OUR AMERICAN HORSES FROM BEING SLAUGHTERED AND TRANSPORTING ACROSS BORDERS.....

    As you vote....but let it be known that we the people...want action also...we want Barbaro's Bill passed....we want more severe charges on animal abuse and neglect...I feel if we slow down or stop animal abuse....child abuse...will slow down or stop too.

    Please remember our rescues, our Fallen Angels, the ones suffering human or animal, prayers to all of those who need them or have lost a loved one, our wildlife and always our loving family.

    Have a nice day.

    ####
    Good Morning Alex
    Good Morning Tim and Fair Hill.
    Our Fallen Angels...we hear your cries, we hear our pleas, and we answer them...moving forward...

    Posted by: joan roya at February 5, 2008 1:12 PM

    Good Super Tuesday Morning FOBs,

    Let us not weary in our struggle. I love the quote above by St. Francis of Assisi posted by Christian.

    Have a great day all and for CJ - prayers for you during this sorrowful time.

    Janice
    A forever FOB

    Posted by: Janice from Florida at February 5, 2008 1:14 PM

    Crosspost from the DB.

    http://forums.delphiforums.com/alexbrown/messages?msg=19615.1

    Looks like the "Gentleman" from SD is at it again. I just sent Sen. Frank Kloucek an e-mail. Let's swing the ratio back to a more favorable one for the horses.
    **********************************************
    Horse-slaughter bill outcry keeps it alive
    By Bill Harlan, Journal staff Monday, February 04, 2008

    PIERRE ? After an avalanche of criticism, public support is growing for a bill proposing horse slaughtering in South Dakota, a state lawmaker says.


    ?I?m getting e-mails 2-to-1 or 3-to-1 in favor of it,? Sen. Frank Kloucek, D-Scotland said Monday.

    Kloucek introduced SB170, which, in its original version, would have allowed up to $1 million in state economic development loans to establish a horse slaughtering plant.

    The Senate Agriculture Committee killed the bill last week, but mainly for procedural reasons. A number of committee members who voted against the measure said they were not opposed to horse slaughtering.

    Before the vote, lawmakers got hundreds of e-mails and phone calls from all over the country, prompted in part by a blitz campaign by the Animal Welfare Institute, a nonprofit based in Washington, D.C.

    ?They even had our cell numbers,? Kloucek said. ?That tells me they had someone on the inside. They were very organized.?

    Kloucek proposed the bill because the last two horse-processing plants in the United States ?- in Texas and Illinois ?- were closed by state laws. A bill in Congress would institute a nationwide ban.

    In the meantime, Kloucek said, hundreds of thousands of unwanted horses are languishing, either at taxpayers? expense, or at the owners? expense. And some horses are simply abandoned.

    ?It?s appalling that we don?t have horse harvesting in the United States,? he said.

    He also pointed out that the Midwestern Legislative Conference of the Council of State Governments passed a resolution last year, unanimously, encouraging Congress to support new horse-processing plants.

    Kloucek admitted he wasn?t prepared for the national outcry, but in the past week, he said, he has received hundreds of messages of support.

    A veterinary student from the University of Washington wrote in an e-mail: ?I greatly lament the horse slaughter ban in Texas and Illinois. I am not alone in this sentiment; the vast majority of large-animal veterinary students that I know of oppose the horse slaughter ban. ?

    A Kansas horse owner wrote, ?Horses are currently in a crisis situation, and we need regulated U.S. slaughter plants to handle the excess horses that are no longer able to be cared for by their owners.?

    John Kabeiseman, a horse trainer from Yankton wrote, ?I would be willing to come to Pierre and speak to anyone you wish if that would help.?

    Kabeiseman said Monday, ?A kill market sets a base price for horses.?

    With no kill market, people are forced to care for old, sick or unmanageable horses, at great expense. Or, they have to put them down, which Kabeiseman said was difficult.

    Sharon Herron of Union Center, who raises horses, also raised that issue in a letter to the editor in the Rapid City Journal. ?How many people have the means to euthanize and bury their horses?? she wrote. ?The cost is astronomical! Not the least the chemicals that would be put in the soil.?

    Herron said she tries to do everything she can to save horses, but she added, ?This is ridiculous.?

    Kloucek said he?s considering two options. He might try to ?smoke out? the bill -? a legislative maneuver to force another committee vote, then the vote of the full Senate. Failing that, Kloucek will ask the Legislature?s Executive Board for a summer study.

    ?We?re firing back,? Kloucek said.

    Contact Bill Harlan at 394-8424 or at bill.harlan@rapidcityjournal.com
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    Posted by: William K. at February 5, 2008 1:36 PM

    Good morning all,
    An animal's eyes have the power to speak a great language.
    Don't forget to pray for all of the fallen angels and those in need.
    Still miss you BARBARO ..
    diane/ pa

    Posted by: diane at February 5, 2008 1:48 PM

    We are Not to hurt our humble brethren [the animals] is our first duty to them, but to stop there is not enough. We have a higher mission: to be of service to them whenever they require it." this is also a quote from " MY BELOVED ST. FRANCIS OF ASSISI"
    diane/ pa

    Posted by: diane at February 5, 2008 1:54 PM

    Barbaro you live in my heart.

    Good morning wonderful horses at MHR, doggies and turkeys and chickens too.

    FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION!

    For Barbaro, for Fitch, for Apache, for Ho'pats and all horses

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 5, 2008 1:54 PM

    ####2-5-08 Kentucky Equine Humane Center Fundraiser Update

    We have made our number one goal. $250.00 has been raised. We (the FOBs) will definitely be sponsoring one class the Kentucky Equine Humane Center All Breeds Horse Show. I have contacted KyEHC to see what classes are still available for sponsorship.

    I have actually received pledges that will take us over our goal of $250.00. If we can raise a total of $500.00 we will sponsor two classes. If not, any money over the initial $250.00 will be donated directly to KyEHC.

    I encourage anyone interested to continue to donate. The Horse Show is March 29th. So, we still have plenty of time to raise more funds. So please feel free to contact me at jbryan@bhsi.com.

    The link to KyEHC Wiki page is: http://alexbrownracing.com/wiki/index.php/Kentucky_Equine_Humane_Center

    The link to my Alex Brown Users page is: (ukcupcake) http://alexbrownracing.com/wiki/index.php/Ukcupcake

    Posted by: Jennie (Kentucky) at February 5, 2008 2:00 PM

    P.S. ANOTHER FANTASTIC QUOTE :
    Until one has loved an animal, a part of one's soul remains unawakened.
    /quoted by Anatole France
    All of you have a wonderful day..
    DIANE/ PA

    Posted by: diane at February 5, 2008 2:01 PM

    They even had our cell numbers,? Kloucek said. ?That tells me they had someone on the inside. They were very organized.?

    Guess the numbers I found were home and cell phone. LOL


    horse slaughter plants trying to rear their ugly heads in this country again. We MUST get the federal legislation passed to make sure that never happens and to protect our horses from the inhumane transportation to a brutal death in other countries.

    Stop the breeding, find another job. Go to work.
    They Don't GET IT!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 2:06 PM

    I'm back in DC for more meetings....but my heart and mind are in Apache Junction, Az. Sherry (who post Sherry in AZ.) is very ill and has been hospitalized since last Friday. There is a problem with her blood not getting enough oxygen. She had a blood transfusion last Friday night. It did not take. Sunday they performed the procedure again, she felt better but yesterday took a turn for the worse. She will undergo more tests today and tomorrow.
    If you remember, she is the FsOB who adopted Gunner from Washington state. In addition, this wonderful lady has donated a lot of funds to rescues, especially Joe at TB Friends. She has done fund raisers like garage sales and forwarded all funds to rescues.
    She needs our prayers. With three horses, two dogs and a ranch and being as ill as she is, love and support, love and support from this famblee.
    For those of you who know her e-mail addresses, both are full. If you would like to send an e-mail to her please send it to me and I will forward it to her when she is well enough to use her computer.
    Thanks to all who support Sherry!

    Sincerely,
    Daryl
    shanamrdiv@yahoo.com

    Posted by: Daryl Smoliak at February 5, 2008 2:19 PM

    Good Morning FOB's,
    Super Tuesday, and the horses in hevin are spilling troughs.

    CJ,
    I wish I could give you a hug on this tough day. Sending you a canopy of angels to comfort you.

    Barbaro,
    Good Morning beautiful bay boy. I love you...smooches.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 2:25 PM

    Sherry in AZ.,
    Prayers and healing light being sent to you for a full and fast recovery. Take care fren in Barbaro, you are loved.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 2:28 PM

    Sherry in AZ.

    Prayers and thoughts for you today. A full and fast recovery.

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 2:34 PM

    16 horses are in need of homes in the Upstate of South Carolina. These were seized by Spartanburg County yesterday out of some incredible nasty conditions. Here is the link to the new story:

    http://www.goupstate.com/article/20080205/NEWS/802050349/1029

    Which brings me to MY soapbox that I have been standing on for a long time: I think spay/neuter principles should apply to horses just like dogs and cats. This moron that had these horses had three stallions in with these mares and they were just breeding indiscrimately, thus probably about twice the number of horses. This sort of thing just makes my blood boil.

    My contention has long been that most stallions should be geldings unless they are just exceptional individuals and then are bred to excellent mares.

    This backyard breeder sort of stuff is a contributor to the problem of unwanted horses overall, and while I realize that even high priced race and show horses end up in the sales, the type of guy---this idiot---- is a significant contributor to the problem of unwanted horses such as these.

    I'll get down off my soapbox now and go to work. I guess I just have a really hard time understanding how someone could starve something --- I work for my horses, so they can have the best of everything and I love all four of them dearly, probably more than some people love their children. I just can't understand this type of thing.

    Love to you all,

    Posted by: Catherine Owen at February 5, 2008 2:34 PM

    My prayers are with Miss Sherry in AZ.
    God bless you and please make you better.

    Posted by: Catherine Owen at February 5, 2008 2:39 PM

    Dearest CJ,
    I read yesterday and didn't have time to post.
    Love to you... I'm thinking of you.

    Posted by: Catherine Owen at February 5, 2008 2:41 PM

    ###
    Catherine
    I feel the same way and it makes my blood boil.
    All this in the news is not helping our bill I am sad to say! But let's fight on, it will stop!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 2:46 PM

    Two GREAT OPPORTUNITIES to win prizes in this month's MHR Hay Drive.

    The first is MHR's Valentine Ride: Girl Power!!
    The prize is a Breyer Model of Ruffian and Rags to Riches.

    The Second is MHR's Be My Valentine Hay Ride.

    The prize for this one is a photo of the MHR horse of your choice taken by none other than our very own Cathy Potter. A lovely frame is included.

    Valentine's Hay Drive

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 5, 2008 2:55 PM

    Catherine and Debbie, I'm right there with you.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 3:01 PM

    ##

    For Sherry...'Gunner's' Mommy....get well, Sherry....they all await your healthy return home....((((((((((sherry))))))))))


    ##

    Good Grief, Famblee.....It's both SUPER Tuesday and FAT Tuesday....ALL ON THE SAME DAY???? Who planned this????!!!!

    I'm running a little late this morning...but I am HERE and off to send my stinkin faxes....VOTE....MAKE YOUR CALLS....SEND YOUR FAXES.....WE JUST GOTTA HELP THE HORSESSSSSSS!!:)

    Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at February 5, 2008 3:02 PM

    ###Sherry in AZ, may the Good Lord hold you in his healing hands during this difficult time and comfort you and your loved ones on your road to recovery. Bless you.

    Judy

    Posted by: Judy Scott-Ont, Canada at February 5, 2008 3:04 PM

    ###
    Daryl
    Thanks for the info on Sherry my heart and prayers will also be with Sherry in Arizona.Such a special lady .....
    Take care of yourself in Washington.We'll be praying for you too!!!

    ###
    CJ
    Praying for your Pearl and may the Lord bless you both today.He knows the plan.Dear CJ your Pearl knows how much you loved her...animals just know that.

    ####
    To ALL
    I'm preparing for my long plane journey to return to the eastcoast Thursday. I am not feeling well so please pray that I arrive safely?? I won't probably be on the computer if it still works until Feb 14th. Jonna knows how to get in touch with me.

    ####
    Angel Dee
    Snow here.....hoping for a few rainbows??? Just send some sun?? LOL

    Why doesn't everything fit in my suitcase???? They should be bottomless like servings of coca cola??? LOL

    HUGS and love to ALL

    Posted by: Maribel at February 5, 2008 3:16 PM

    Maribel,
    Please take care and prayers for you that you feel better.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 3:34 PM

    "God's Treasures In Rainbows"

    From God's Loving Heart
    The Most Beautiful Rainbow Barbaro
    All The Colors Of The Rainbow
    Rainbow Hearts
    The Colors Of Beauty
    The Colors Of Love
    Divine Treasures
    Divine Love
    Charley's Angels
    Angel Maribel
    Angel C.J.
    Angel Sherry
    Sacred Prayers
    All The So So Beautiful Angels Here
    Your Angelic Hearts Of Love
    Barbaro's Halo Is Glowing So So So Beautifully
    All The Colors Of The Rainbow
    Divinity
    The Circle Of Love
    In Hearts
    In Roses
    The Rainbow Of God's Treasures
    Angels All Around
    Over The Rainbow.......

    8........Halos........Two Hearts........Connected
    In Love........

    Affirmed Rainbows.......
    Sacred Prayers........
    Word On The Rainbow Is Love.......
    Angel Equine Heaven God's So So So Beautiful Messenger........

    Affirmed

    Posted by: Dee Mirich at February 5, 2008 3:35 PM

    ******************ALERT*******************

    SD lawmaker keeps pushing for horse slaughter (US)
    Bill Harlan tells us in an article filed with the Rapid City Journal entitled, “Horse-slaughter bill outcry keeps it alive.”

    After an avalanche of criticism, public support is growing for a bill proposing horse slaughtering in South Dakota, a state lawmaker says.

    “I’m getting e-mails 2-to-1 or 3-to-1 in favor of it,” Sen. Frank Kloucek, D-Scotland said Monday.

    Kloucek introduced SB170, which, in its original version, would have allowed up to $1 million in state economic development loans to establish a horse slaughtering plant.

    The Senate Agriculture Committee killed the bill last week, but mainly for procedural reasons. A number of committee members who voted against the measure said they were not opposed to horse slaughtering.

    The “avalanche of criticism” refers to hundreds of phone calls and emails made by animal rights activists. The idea suggested in Harlan’s headline implying this “outcry” is keeping the bill alive is misleading. The bill is being kept alive because of a political movement to revive the business of slaughtering of horses in the U.S.

    What has prompted South Dakota to promote horse slaughter in their state?

    The article continues starting with a quote from Kloucek:

    “It’s appalling that we don’t have horse harvesting in the United States,” he said.

    He also pointed out that the Midwestern Legislative Conference of the Council of State Governments passed a resolution last year, unanimously, encouraging Congress to support new horse-processing plants.

    One of the saddest quotes from the article and so telling of what is being taught in our veterinary schools:

    A veterinary student from the University of Washington wrote in an e-mail: “I greatly lament the horse slaughter ban in Texas and Illinois. I am not alone in this sentiment; the vast majority of large-animal veterinary students that I know of oppose the horse slaughter ban. “

    A group of veterinarians called the Veterinarians for Equine Welfare (VEW) formed to fight the notion that horse slaughter is somehow good for horses and encourage a national ban. Perhaps these students should study VEW’s White Paper on horse slaughter before forming such views.

    The article also included this predictable statement:

    John Kabeiseman, a horse trainer from Yankton wrote, “I would be willing to come to Pierre and speak to anyone you wish if that would help.”

    Kabeiseman said Monday, “A kill market sets a base price for horses.”

    With no kill market, people are forced to care for old, sick or unmanageable horses, at great expense. Or, they have to put them down, which Kabeiseman said was difficult.

    Comments like this one, made by a few but often aired when this issue is debated, is money centric and highlights the irresponsibility of those making them. Horse ownership is no doubt expensive, but the cost of euthanasia is only a small drop in the bucket of what is typically spent throughout the life of a horse for care and maintenance. Horses can normally be euthanized for the price it costs to have their teeth floated, and in some cases less. It is hardly a “great expense” in the big scheme of things, and Kabeisman’s statement is typical of those people looking for a cheap way to dump their horses when they have used them up, with no consideration to what it costs the horse in the way of pain and suffering.

    Harlan’s piece also informs us of what Klouceck’s next steps are likely to be:

    Kloucek said he’s considering two options. He might try to “smoke out” the bill -– a legislative maneuver to force another committee vote, then the vote of the full Senate. Failing that, Kloucek will ask the Legislature’s Executive Board for a summer study.

    SD Sen. Frank Kloucek gets our Horse Dung award this week.

    Source: “Horse-slaughter bill outcry keeps it alive,” Rapid City Journal, 4 Feb 2008

    Related link:

    :: Horse Slaughter-Its Ethical Impact and Subsequent Response of the Veterinary Profession, A White Paper Prepared by Veterinarians for Equine Welfare (HTML version). Click here for pdf version.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 3:35 PM

    **************ALERT****************

    SD lawmaker keeps pushing for horse slaughter (US)
    Bill Harlan tells us in an article filed with the Rapid City Journal entitled, “Horse-slaughter bill outcry keeps it alive.”

    After an avalanche of criticism, public support is growing for a bill proposing horse slaughtering in South Dakota, a state lawmaker says.

    “I’m getting e-mails 2-to-1 or 3-to-1 in favor of it,” Sen. Frank Kloucek, D-Scotland said Monday.

    Kloucek introduced SB170, which, in its original version, would have allowed up to $1 million in state economic development loans to establish a horse slaughtering plant.

    The Senate Agriculture Committee killed the bill last week, but mainly for procedural reasons. A number of committee members who voted against the measure said they were not opposed to horse slaughtering.

    The “avalanche of criticism” refers to hundreds of phone calls and emails made by animal rights activists. The idea suggested in Harlan’s headline implying this “outcry” is keeping the bill alive is misleading. The bill is being kept alive because of a political movement to revive the business of slaughtering of horses in the U.S.

    What has prompted South Dakota to promote horse slaughter in their state?

    The article continues starting with a quote from Kloucek:

    “It’s appalling that we don’t have horse harvesting in the United States,” he said.

    He also pointed out that the Midwestern Legislative Conference of the Council of State Governments passed a resolution last year, unanimously, encouraging Congress to support new horse-processing plants.

    One of the saddest quotes from the article and so telling of what is being taught in our veterinary schools:

    A veterinary student from the University of Washington wrote in an e-mail: “I greatly lament the horse slaughter ban in Texas and Illinois. I am not alone in this sentiment; the vast majority of large-animal veterinary students that I know of oppose the horse slaughter ban. “

    A group of veterinarians called the Veterinarians for Equine Welfare (VEW) formed to fight the notion that horse slaughter is somehow good for horses and encourage a national ban. Perhaps these students should study VEW’s White Paper on horse slaughter before forming such views.

    The article also included this predictable statement:

    John Kabeiseman, a horse trainer from Yankton wrote, “I would be willing to come to Pierre and speak to anyone you wish if that would help.”

    Kabeiseman said Monday, “A kill market sets a base price for horses.”

    With no kill market, people are forced to care for old, sick or unmanageable horses, at great expense. Or, they have to put them down, which Kabeiseman said was difficult.

    Comments like this one, made by a few but often aired when this issue is debated, is money centric and highlights the irresponsibility of those making them. Horse ownership is no doubt expensive, but the cost of euthanasia is only a small drop in the bucket of what is typically spent throughout the life of a horse for care and maintenance. Horses can normally be euthanized for the price it costs to have their teeth floated, and in some cases less. It is hardly a “great expense” in the big scheme of things, and Kabeisman’s statement is typical of those people looking for a cheap way to dump their horses when they have used them up, with no consideration to what it costs the horse in the way of pain and suffering.

    Harlan’s piece also informs us of what Klouceck’s next steps are likely to be:

    Kloucek said he’s considering two options. He might try to “smoke out” the bill -– a legislative maneuver to force another committee vote, then the vote of the full Senate. Failing that, Kloucek will ask the Legislature’s Executive Board for a summer study.

    SD Sen. Frank Kloucek gets our Horse Dung award this week.

    Source: “Horse-slaughter bill outcry keeps it alive,” Rapid City Journal, 4 Feb 2008

    Related link:

    :: Horse Slaughter-Its Ethical Impact and Subsequent Response of the Veterinary Profession, A White Paper Prepared by Veterinarians for Equine Welfare (HTML version). Click here for pdf version.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 3:37 PM

    Sorry about the double post.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 3:38 PM

    This is incredible, a man and a beautiful bond with his horses and so kind.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHZLVbhu7Mk

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 3:46 PM

    Horse HARVESTING?????

    What kind of disgusting phrase is that??!?!?

    Posted by: LindaVA at February 5, 2008 4:03 PM

    ## Renee, I've been talking about South Dakota to our Senators aides this morning. Lets all pray it helps.

    ## Sherry in AZ, may God bless and keep you. Hope you will be better soon.

    ## CJ, my thoughts are with you today.

    My thoughts are with all who need prayer and help today. :>)

    Posted by: Bobbie B. at February 5, 2008 4:05 PM

    ### Linda VA...I saw that too. This guy is a little strange, to say the least. Just call it what is guy, horse SLAUGHTER. Sigh.

    Has anyone heard from CJaffe today, about Pearl?

    Posted by: Kathy in SC at February 5, 2008 4:08 PM

    Linda VA,
    The word slaughter is not used, so it hides what is actually being done. My thoughts.

    Bobbie B.,
    You are so good!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 4:10 PM

    ####
    Does anyone know of the pregnant mare at the feedlot was saved and praying the others too.

    Prayers for Pearle, Sherry in Az...and for all of our FOB family...

    Posted by: joan roya at February 5, 2008 4:12 PM

    Good Morning Famblee

    I'M HERE AND I'M CALLING

    The South Dakota nonsense is the vary reason why we MUST pass federal legislation. Please concentrate on our daily instructions unless we are told to move in another direction. If now SD then another state will try.

    SherryAZ.....my thoughts and prayers are with you. I can't imagine how much you are missing your horses and furkids. Get well.

    Daryl....thank you for alerting us to Sherry's illness. Please convey to her out prayers and love.

    CJ....thinking about you today and prayers to Pearl who has loved you very much.

    Maribel....safe journey. I hope you feel better.

    Posted by: cathypotter/california at February 5, 2008 4:15 PM

    ####
    LINDA VA

    Yep: Horse harvesting....like Horse PROCESSING...
    It's like calling Genocide; "Ethnic Cleansing..."
    God what a world.

    Good thing I'm unarmed and too poor to take a leedle jet to the location of this idiot's house and take out his kneecaps....

    Posted by: jonna at February 5, 2008 4:15 PM

    ###
    Joan...yes, we got her. Audrey will be picking her up this morning and transporting her home to Ramona, CA.

    Posted by: cathypotter/california at February 5, 2008 4:16 PM

    ####
    JOAN
    The pregnant mare in the CA feedlot with mud up to her knees was ransomed out of there, and supposed to have been taken out of that hellhole this morning...

    Check the thread on the DB for further intel.xxoo: j

    Posted by: jonna at February 5, 2008 4:17 PM

    ###
    Thanks Cathy and Jonna....thanks to all who helped her....You FOBS ARE THE GREATEST!!!

    Posted by: joan roya at February 5, 2008 4:21 PM

    ###Mirabel, safe travels to you and I hope you feel better it's not much fun flying when you are ill. They're calling for another storm here tonight tomorrow, so be extra careful.

    I can't believe those people in SD, it's got to be about money, why else would they even pursue it. It's heartbreaking to think of the horses at the hands of these people.

    Judy

    Posted by: Judy Scott-Ont, Canada at February 5, 2008 4:27 PM

    Re: State Senator Kloucek of S. Dakota.

    Maybe we should enlist State Senator Katus' help.

    I received this e-mail from him on Saturday.

    I got this e-mail this morning from State Senator Tom Katus of South Dakota.

    Dear Rosemarie,

    Thank you for your concerns about SB 170. As a long time lover of four leggeds-horses, dogs and cats, I did not support this bill. My five cats, in solidarity with their fellow four leggeds, would've torn me to pieces.

    Sincere regards,

    Tom Katus, SD Senator #32

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 5, 2008 4:28 PM

    Two saved old carnival ponies, 4 geldings wrenched away from the KB by one of Joe's Disciples...
    On we march, nightmares and all:
    ***************************************************
    Tuesday, February 5th...

    Older than the hills, seen it all, or at least I thought so. But the horror stories of abandoned and starving horses are never ending. Livestock auctions, where the only bidders are horse killers.

    I screwed up. Watching terrified horses at feed lots load into a large cattle trailer for the trip to slaughter would keep me up nights. I mailed letter after letter. Lectured others on the evils of slaughter. And finally, when my sun is almost ready to set, horse slaughter in America was stopped. Cathy and I partied. A celebration at our favorite restaurant. Giddy for weeks. Peace on earth.

    But here in California horses began to stock pile. Feed lots are bursting. Horses are left tied to gates and abandoned. Yesterday was a typical day at the office, with 16 phone messages asking if I can take yet another horse.

    While I was giving the we gotta stop horse slaughter speech to others, while I was writing dozens of letters a week, my friend Sarah McDowell would tell me how dumb I am. Sarah said in California there would soon be thousands of horses with no where to go. No one to feed them. Naturally I waved her away. How could a few homeless horses ever justify the brutality of slaughter?

    And besides, if closing down slaughter plants did produce a few homeless horses, I could bring them to our ranch.

    I am not here to profess my wisdom. To give you a solution. Just stating the facts, and for horses the facts suck.

    In the Los Angeles area 2 girls, along with many internet friends from all over America, pooled their money and attended weekend auctions. The girls are Caroline and Nikki. Horse killer David Misner was buying the majority of horses, but Caroline and Nikki were able to rescue several, including a 31 year old gelding.

    Horse killer Wade Giles bought 4 geldings at a recent livestock auction, and waiting for him in the parking lot was Holly Meeks. Horse killer Wade Giles had just paid $525.00 for those 4 geldings. He resold all 4 to Holly Meeks for $900.00, and now they are warm and safe on a ranch here in Woodland.

    Horse killer Manny Phelps had 2 ponies, both older and both hungry, and he bought them from a traveling carnival. I phoned Allison Andrews and said please oh please, and Allison replied well okay then. The 2 ponies are now sharing a large dry stall, and a big Thank You to Jennifer Wright for providing the transportation.

    And now on this Super Tuesday, we must vote, we must work, we must once again deal with bursting feed lots. A phone message from Kaitlyn Hunt, and she is 12. Kaitlyn says one day she will be rich, and then together we can save all the horses in the world. Ah, another day to look forward to. Before ending her message Kaitlyn Hunt says Anything Is Possible. Well golly gee...

    Joe

    Caroline and Nikki raised money and attended auctions in Chino and Mira Loma. Top left shows Caroline with a thoroughbred mare she outbid a killer for.

    Top right show another gelding saved, he is 31 years old, and Nikki named him Red Spirit.

    Before and after. There are letters asking how Willy is doing, and he is doing great. Bottom left shows Willy on the day he came to us from a feed lot. Bottom right shows a recent picture of Willy. He is out in our fields with other horses, and a sparkle has come to his eyes.

    Posted by: jonna at February 5, 2008 4:34 PM

    I just wanted to share with you all something that strikes me as sooooo puzzeling. During the SD call/fax campaign I read a lot of discussion pro & con. What amazed me is that the pro-slaughter sees 2 options for "unwanted" horses...slaughter or starvation in pasture. Humane euthanasia isn't even an option that is considered. WHAT IS UP WITH THAT????

    The answer in my opinion is pure GREED!

    Posted by: cathypotter/california at February 5, 2008 4:38 PM

    Catherine & Deb LA, Amen. Inconsiderate, inhuman dumb a**es!

    (((((Sherry & CJ)))))


    Posted by: Margie at February 5, 2008 4:44 PM

    #### Cathy, I don't think humane euthanasia will ever be spoken about. For them to do so would be to admit that they may have been wrong all along, or irresponsible all along. That's my take on it. I think it's called 'shirking'. Or greed.

    Posted by: Margie at February 5, 2008 4:49 PM

    ##

    Cathy Potter et al`....They just are not peeples who 'GET IT'.....they have been raised by people who don't 'GET IT'....there are more than likely, GENERATIONS of family members there who don't 'GET IT'.....it is very sad...like racial prejudice or 'hate'....it is all 'carefully taught'....no one is BORN not 'GETTING IT'...

    Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at February 5, 2008 4:56 PM

    ####
    I think it is stupidty...? These people do not want true responsibility for their horses or animals...they are looking for an easy way out....not facing the music....

    If we get old, or older...do they want to turn us out and let us starve or sent us away to a reform school.....

    Not facing responsibility....like I said if you own an animal...give it love, care, and spend money...if you cannot....DO NOT HAVE IT....

    Posted by: joan roya at February 5, 2008 4:56 PM

    ####
    CJ & PEARL?
    Anyone hear from CJ? Our dear Troubadore...and Pearl, The Gatekeeper of her life....
    ####
    Great news: I SPOKE with my friend Chip this morning. They're home in Idaho, and he's SPEAKING.
    Amazing grace is all I can say...I tried not to cry speaking with him...we had such fun times together, many years back; silliness in parked cars, ah well, haven't we all been there once or twice. God bless him and his peeples...I would imagine he will have to walk the wretched chemo line again....he has such good spirits, such a fighting spirit.
    ####
    Hugs to the feedlot mare. Can't wait to hear how she is doing this day.
    ####
    Everyone vote if there is a Primary in your state.
    This is so important.
    ####
    I came home last night to what I thinbk is a broken toe in my beautimous cream-colored brood bitch, Heart. Then she popped a fever of 103.9--that was swell,,,many timers fever and pain go hand in hand. We're off to the vets tonight, and I pray that a broken toe is the worst of what is wrong with my dear old girl...keep her in prayer. She made many GH pups for THAT damned industry. I love her distractedly. (I am totally enamoured of my broods. They suffer lives indescribable, believe me.)

    Two I got 4 years ago (they lived two years as ladies of leisure...brought out of Florida hell at 11+) had weeping dermatitis on their backs and sides. (They used SEVIN!!!!!!! (toxic to GH) to fumigate the brood kennels, and they washed their carpet sample "beds" in Clorox, (burned their already compromised skin)which were not usually dry when it would go back into their crates...you get the idea.)

    Anyhow: love to all: keep marching. We're not done by a long shot, but it's coming, I know we will make it happen.

    Posted by: jonna at February 5, 2008 4:58 PM

    Just a leedle animal humor for today. We got several feet of snow since Sunday morning. I noticed yesterday an unusual friskiness in my 13 year old dog. Trying to be the alpha (neutered) male, rolling in the snow. Snorting. Barking. He wore him self out. The others were quite frisky as well. Overnight, the 4 horses, Rojo, Chief, Reina, and Boo Boo, were just as frisky. Rojo led the charge, unlatching Chief's gate. Then the both of them starting to 'free' the other 2. They were 'on the move'. Who knows what the mission was.They weren't frightened by anything. Just mischievous. The humans had to intervene, otherwise they would have been frolicking all over Taos County. Was it a full moon last night?

    Posted by: Margie at February 5, 2008 4:59 PM

    This quote is so typical of pro-slaughter:

    "With no kill market, people are forced to care for old, sick or unmanageable horses, at great expense. Or, they have to put them down, which Kabeiseman said was difficult."

    We've researched the cost of humane euthanasia and in many cases it's less than putting a dog down.

    Posted by: cathypotter/california at February 5, 2008 5:09 PM

    Margie-

    Lots of mischief at our barn as well...
    towels thrown and stomped on... trying to sweep...
    rearranging mats...

    It's a new moon today, and Mardi Gras?!

    Posted by: Christian at February 5, 2008 5:09 PM

    I thought this horse slaughter thing in South Dakota was dead for the time being????!!!!!

    I have a question, what about the American Indian tribes out there in the Dakotas-----primarily the Sioux --- I know they don't support horse slaughter and the American Indian Horse Registry is one of the supporters of the anit-slaughter legislation and seeks to preserve the heritage of the American Indian and horses.

    WHAT THE HELL???!!!! A lot of that land in SD is tribal lands owned by the Sioux and from what I understand this $1 million would be State money.

    Dear God, is nobody in the State of South Dakota listing to the tribe(s)? I guess things haven't changed much out there.

    This Sen. Frank Kloucek, D-Scotland sounds like a total CLOD! Sounds like he thinks like a serial killer; his statement of "...the nation needs such a plant so horses can be humanely disposed of when people no longer want them or cannot afford to feed them. There are no plants in the United States that currently slaughter horses, and (Kloucek said) South Dakota could gain a lucrative business."

    Well GEE WHIZ Senator, there are no plants right now in the United States that currently slaughter serial killers such as Charles Manson and I say my state could gain a lucrative business because if being a SLIMEBALL were a crime, then it would be open season on MONSTERS (like you).

    God, I'm still shaking reading this guys words.
    And I am with Margie, HASN'T ANYONE EVER HEARD OF HUMANE EUTHANASIA?

    When I think of all the idiot government BS they spend money on.....

    Posted by: Catherine Owen at February 5, 2008 5:10 PM

    Yes, call it SLAUGHTER and be done. Don't be cute or coy with the language. It's disgusting.

    Posted by: LindaVA at February 5, 2008 5:28 PM

    Hay, FOB's!

    ###
    Daryl, when you e-mail Sherry, please tell her I'm sending Reiki to her NOW. I had suspected something was up with her. Just tell her she is loved and to just get better...

    Healing, Love, Peace
    ONS
    Padme

    Posted by: Padme (Lyn Gilbert) at February 5, 2008 5:36 PM

    All, All, All Angelic Beautiful Glowing Rainbows To Angel Jonna. All, All, All My Love And Prayers For You And Heart.

    All, All, All My Love To Angel Alex. All, All Angelic Beautiful Glowing Rainbows.

    Affirmed

    Posted by: Dee Mirich at February 5, 2008 5:37 PM

    Hay Fambleeee

    WHEW, Alex...good save of your body parts

    CJ, thinking of you and Pearl today

    Jackie, Hope you are comforted by ethereal blanets of eternal love from sweet Sassy.

    Catherine Owen, so good to see you posting again. You speak to me, dear Fren. I have long railed against the ridiculous practice of breeding just because. The feedlots become birthing grounds for foals borne by mares who are victimized by stupidity. What a horrendous fate. My darling yearling and foal (co-foal?) that I sponsor at my favorite rescue here in CO are the products of such breedings. It makes me absolutely crazy and sick and sad. I've often thought and spoken of licensing that would be restrictive of such breeding, and TRULY believe that the "hobbyist" breeder should be severely sanctioned for breaching restrictions. Not to mention those who breed for market only, and not to perfect a breed or endure perfection. I've heard nothing but "you can't do that" and still haven't had a good explanation why. With all the beautiful animals who are sacrificed, then there damn sure shouldn't be replacements standing by for the same fate.

    off my soapbox for now too. Haven't been able to post much lately for reasons to numerous to mention. Don't anybody think for a minute that my dedication has waned. Won't ever happen

    Posted by: Cheryl Jones, in Lakewood but not at February 5, 2008 5:44 PM

    Just finished my calls, tried to get the aides name that's taking care of S311. No aide is assigned to the bill. Everyone is taking calls! Gee. Called Senator Sessions AL. and James is away from his desk, did the voice mail and ask him to return my call. Let�s see if that happens?
    Senator Jon Kyl�s girl said she is receiving lots of calls in support, none from pro slaughter Yippy!
    Ryrd office said both sides are calling!
    Thanked Durbin for cosponsoring and the aide said he is trying hard to get the bill to the floor. Yippy!
    Reid office was nice, but no one aide is working on S311.
    McConnell has and aide assigned to S 311 but the guy would not give me his name??????????????/

    Dum %$@# in SD, it is so upsetting!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 5:49 PM

    There are two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle. - Albert Einstein

    Posted by: Carol Nichols at February 5, 2008 5:55 PM

    ### Christian - that's it !!!! Mardi Gras, and they want beads, etoufee, and other stuff. They are still very frisky this morning. :-)

    Posted by: Margie at February 5, 2008 5:55 PM

    Good day, family -

    VOTE! It is not only crucial, I believe, but this year, even exciting! My candidate "got it" from the get-go...

    ### Sherry AZ/Daryl - Oh, I am so sorry to hear she is sick. Daryl, please tell her how loved she is, and how much we think of her. And thank you for keeping us in the loop.

    ### jonna - Hope Heart's fever and broken toe are - just that! Nothing more... If you got too agitated, the half-glasses would slide down your nose, and... (I'm still treasuring the taking out the garbage visual!) Also, so glad to hear your friend Chip is doing so well, and is so brave.

    ### CJ and Pearl - Love, peace, comfort and the stregth that comes from knowing the job has been well done. Pearl, walk into the sun with joy...

    ### Jackie Tundra - Hope the cyber hugs are reaching you, and that peace is gradually moving in to the hole that Sassy left in your heart. It will never displace her, just coexist.

    ### Catherine Owen and cathy potter and Margie and Debbie - Right on. I am so sick of people completely disregarding humane euthanasia. It is as if it doesn't exist as an option, which I think is just - bad word, bad word. I once had to pay $65.00 to have a rat euthanized, (a classroom rat, who had developed a growth on the side of the face that proved to be cancerous. Of course, it blew up just when I had the rat for summer vacation!), and based on that, pound for pound, euthanasia for a horse is a bargain. But, I somehow feel these are the same folk who are generally irresponsible...

    Love and comfort to all in need, four-legged and two-legged, and have a Barbaro day, courage and kindness.

    - Jean

    Posted by: Jean Nolan at February 5, 2008 5:55 PM

    Alex - you don't give yourself enough credit...That being said, the image made me laugh. Glad you and the horse are safe!

    Posted by: Laura in Monroe at February 5, 2008 5:59 PM

    extra Tuesday 2/5 National Target List (HAHS) will be posted here at Comments and at this DB Thread

    http://forums.delphiforums.com/alexbrown/messages?msg=19623.1

    asap - list STILL not up at HAHS group site - MEANWHILE IF you're done with the ABR Strategy instructions & State directions & STILL want to do more - you can go to ABR/DB messages 15321.10 (linked at the above DB thread) for a good alternate target list of Senators from AWI/SAPL.

    FIRST THINGS FIRST - Stress the importance of getting S 311 / HR 503 to a vote.

    Tell all your contacts about the SD development. REASON TO SUPPORT/COSPONSOR/EXPEDITE S 311 / HR 503 - and spread that VEW white paper far and wide [LINK in the above DB Thread].
    Here's something to add to ALL your contacts please - and the 800 numbers for your convenience on all calls. IMO - convey the website vetsforequinewelfare.org to all your contacts - to counteract the position of the 2 big vet ass'ns. Links to their two 2007 antislaughter releases and their recently-released 2008 WHITE PAPER are at that DB Thread.

    If long distance charges are a problem, use these DC 800 numbers and ask for the legislators by name (or ask for extension, last 5 numbers of each legislator's office phone).

    800-828-0498

    800-459-1887

    800-614-2803

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at February 5, 2008 6:00 PM

    Alex's adventure today reminds me of what turned me into a bareback rider about 30 years ago - going over a 3-part in and out in a jumping lesson, I lost a stirrup (my bad, not equipment failure) but did not lose my balance or my seat and made it over and through all the components and landed safely, still aboard the horse - and from then on I eschewed stirrups altogether and then dispensed with the saddle as well. That was one of those unforgettable moments in time in my life. I can still remember the line of jumps, which wall we were on, which direction we were going. Like it was yesterday . . .

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at February 5, 2008 6:04 PM

    ### CJ...you okay fren?

    Posted by: Kathy in SC at February 5, 2008 6:12 PM

    HI FOB's Can I ask a favor today, Daryl is going to see my Senator Sessions tomorrow? Would you help push him a little?
    The aide name is James Wellener Phone 202-224-4124 Fax 202-224-3149 and maybe tomorrow too?
    Thank you so much!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 6:12 PM

    ############3
    thanks to all who responded about my situation with Pearl. The way things turned out, I was dead-on with calling it the day I did - but Pearl couldn't wait. She was 'gone' when I got home around 4 am. We had some special time together the last weeks. Will be posting at her thread shortly - still waiting for that HAHS list and don't want to be diverted until that is done. She only had one bad day. In the scheme of things, that's quite a great life. It's always a little harder when you have bottlefed them, though, as stoic as I try to be.

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at February 5, 2008 6:16 PM

    ######
    C Jaffe,
    THAT IS AN ADVENTURE!!!!! Sounds like you have great balance!

    It reminds me of a time when I was much younger and had a little palomino mare that was a great gymkhana horse. We had been at an afternoon games thing and it came time for the barrel race. I had loosened her cinch while we were waiting between classes and then got in a hurry and forgot to tighten it. I hopped down on her from the fence (so I didn't "step up") and proceeded to hurtle her toward the first barrel.....

    Well, needless to say, the saddle slipped to the side (into the barrel) and when we came out of the turn headed toward the second barrel, all I could see was a sideways view of the people on the rail and we were headed toward them.

    I looked like that little monkey that herds sheep on the border collie (he gets sideways sometimes on the dog).

    Amazingly I hung on for what seemed like an eternity. The little mare knew the barrel racing pattern by heart and finished it on her own with me hanging off of her sideways. I hung on until we cross the finished line and we got a time!

    I then fell off in a heap and my little mare turned around to look at me like "have another drink, Mom!" --- GEEZ, she was so embarrassed. She said all the other horses were laughing at her mom :)

    Posted by: Catherine Owen at February 5, 2008 6:17 PM

    CJ!>?
    Is Pearl still with us here on the Earthly Realm? Or is she frolicing in Heaven with elephants, and horses and greyhounds and peeple???

    And not matter at what stage you find yourself, are you OK>>>send many hugs from me and the critters here. xxoo same to Pearl

    Posted by: jonna at February 5, 2008 6:19 PM

    Sometimes we forget how dangerous it can be. I'm glad you stayed on Alex. Hope it won't hurt too much later on.

    Posted by: Margie at February 5, 2008 6:19 PM

    ### Debbie LA - copied the info and will call Mr. Wellener for Sen. Sessions at lunch time.

    Posted by: Jean Nolan at February 5, 2008 6:37 PM

    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Pearl

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at February 5, 2008 6:43 PM

    ###
    Jean thanks girl friend

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 6:49 PM

    Equine Heaven...thanks for the grin!

    ###Alex..."sh*t, here we go, I am off" ...funny! I have had the experience, and it is not funny at the time! I am not sure how old you are, but at my age, stuff (body, not equipment) just breaks, pops and pulls way too easy!

    Posted by: Kathy in SC at February 5, 2008 6:53 PM

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 7:02 PM

    ##

    Debbie, LA...check your inbox:) I sent ya something...:)

    Alex...omgoodness!! I'd have NOT been able to make that 'save'....heck, I cannot even get UP on a horse, well not w/out a ladder, anyway! Good Job Done, Alex!!!

    CJ...I'm sorry. ((((((((cj)))))))))

    O.K., my 'stinkin' faxes are sent....+ one for Debbie, LA...I've been 'lusting' at *CHARLEY'S* beauuuuuuutiful picture on/off all morning long....sigh:)

    Sunshine in these foothills of NO/CA today....TWO days in a ROW:) VERRRRRRRY cold out there, but SUNSHINE nonetheless:) so, I'll take that:)

    Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at February 5, 2008 7:17 PM

    CJ.,
    Pearl had you and your wonderful love and the life you provided for her. I feel so bad for you, I wish there was something I could do.


    These non humans have no respect for life, I am sorry animals and humans are not disposable. All they have to do is bring the horses to a rescue in the state, who cares how far it is, at least the horses will have good care and be loved. Damn them!

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 7:22 PM

    Alex,
    Good God you are not supposeto do acrobatics on the horse. Hold on cowboy. I hope you will be alright.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 7:24 PM

    -> -> -> Senator Sessions
    -> -> -> James Wellner

    -> = pushes.

    Posted by: Margie at February 5, 2008 7:25 PM

    ((((((Sherry in AZ!!!!!)))))))

    My thoughts and prayers are with you. Get well soon. You are loved my fren.

    Leslie in MN

    Posted by: Leslie in MN at February 5, 2008 7:37 PM

    ###
    Margie thanks for the little push, you rock!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 7:41 PM

    ####
    Lynne B rocks too! thanks

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 7:45 PM

    ####
    We have some 4 week old puppies on the db that need medical attention from paravol....if anyone can help....please...
    pennies, nickels, and dimes...do add up quickly.

    Posted by: joan roya at February 5, 2008 8:19 PM

    reposting

    Hey guys...if anyone has any time left over from their call list we'd sure appreciate some extra calls/faxes/emails to Senator Pryor and Rep Snyder here in Arkansas. Daryl is meeting with both offices (second meeting with Pryor's office) in DC later this week. Arkansas is a tough Ag state and we can us all the help here we can get.
    Thanks for any help...Tamme

    Senator Mark Pryor 202-224-2353 phone 202-228-0908 fax

    Representative Vic Snyder 202-225-2506 phone 202-225-5903 fax

    Posted by Tamme at February 4, 2008 4:56 PM

    DONE!

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at February 5, 2008 8:32 PM

    ####
    CJ will do!

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 8:50 PM

    ####
    Tamme
    calling AK

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 8:52 PM

    -> -> -> Pryor
    -> -> -> Snyder

    Posted by: Margie at February 5, 2008 8:54 PM

    hi debbie, called senator sessions and left voicemail for james wellener.

    Posted by: hilary at February 5, 2008 8:58 PM

    Done CJ.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 8:59 PM

    ####
    Hilary thanks! Have called James two times today and he has not returned my call. Told the aide that and she said he was in meetings all day today. So I told her to remind him of the meeting with Daryl at 2:30 PM tomorrow! Sure Daryl will chase him down! LOL
    Off to Fax AK.

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 9:12 PM

    Sorry not AK, Ark LOL

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 9:14 PM

    Rest in peace, precious PEARL, and may light perpetual shine upon you. You had the most wonderful mama, and you take her love and her music straight up to heaven to comfort you.

    You are loved and missed, sweet girl...

    Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 5, 2008 9:20 PM

    Goodnight Barbaro

    Play in the heavens with your frens Barbaro...run painfree, happy and know we miss and love you.

    Goodnight Family/Fans of Barbaro

    PLEASE CALL, FAX, EMAIL...we have some of our own walking the floors in Washington, DC and more to go....let us represent them...by calling, faxing, emailing, whatever it takes...we speak for those who cannot speak for themselves.

    Our federal government needs to listen to its people...alot are chanting change...and we FOBS are asking for change....to pass the anti-horse slaughter bill, stop transportation across the borders, and to stop neglect and abuse for all horses and animals.

    Let us pray for our country...

    Please remember our rescues, our Fallen Angels, those who are suffering human or animal, our wildlife, and our loving family.....

    Help thy neighbors...give a hand....there are alot of people who are facing hard times...and they are having troubles feeding their family, and their animals....let us not forget them.

    Have a nice evening.

    ####
    Alex...close call...but we knew you would hold on...thank you.
    Tim and Fair Hill...thank you.
    Our Fallen Angels...we are here, we are marching forward....WE GET IT!

    Posted by: joan roya at February 5, 2008 9:22 PM

    Hay everyone we are making a DIFFERENCE!


    Laminitis Research: Pfizer, NTRA Partnering on Barbaro Memorial Fund
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    Pfizer Animal Health and the National Thoroughbred Racing Association (NTRA) have joined forces to help fund laminitis research through the NTRA Charities’ Barbaro Memorial Fund. The partnership’s aim is to increase awareness of the Fund across the horse industry and encourage further support of research into laminitis prevention and treatment.

    Owners, trainers, and horse enthusiasts can contribute directly to the work of the Barbaro Memorial Fund online at RidingwithBarbaro.org. Information on the donation site and the Fund’s goal will be featured in 2008 Pfizer Animal Health advertising for several equine products, as well as on displays in select retail outlets across the country and at major equine events. Riding with Barbaro awareness bracelets will be available as part of select display promotions.

    "Laminitis is a potentially devastating disease that affects horses at all levels of equine sports and across disciplines--from great Thoroughbred champions like Barbaro, right on to recreational horses loved by their riders and owners," said Kristin Ruff, marketing manager, U.S. equine business, at Pfizer Animal Health. "We wanted to help raise awareness of the Fund’s mission and encourage all kinds of horse people to donate what they can toward finding a cure."

    The entire horse industry, and horse enthusiasts around the world, watched Barbaro's story unfold after his injury during the 2006 Preakness Stakes. Despite the efforts of a team of a veterinary team at the University of Pennsylvania's New Bolton Center, it was laminitis that finally brought about the end of Barbaro’s life in January 2007. While Barbaro will always be remembered for his courage--both on the track and while facing injury--his owners wanted his legacy to benefit all horses.

    More information on Barbaro’s legacy, as well as how to get involved with the Barbaro Memorial Fund and make a donation, can be found online at RidingwithBarbaro.org.

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 9:28 PM

    Re-post:
    I'm back in DC for more meetings....but my heart and mind are in Apache Junction, Az. Sherry (who post Sherry in AZ.) is very ill and has been hospitalized since last Friday. There is a problem with her blood not getting enough oxygen. She had a blood transfusion last Friday night. It did not take. Sunday they performed the procedure again, she felt better but yesterday took a turn for the worse. She will undergo more tests today and tomorrow.
    If you remember, she is the FsOB who adopted Gunner from Washington state. In addition, this wonderful lady has donated a lot of funds to rescues, especially Joe at TB Friends. She has done fund raisers like garage sales and forwarded all funds to rescues.
    She needs our prayers. With three horses, two dogs and a ranch and being as ill as she is, love and support, love and support from this famblee.
    For those of you who know her e-mail addresses, both are full. If you would like to send an e-mail to her please send it to me and I will forward it to her when she is well enough to use her computer.
    Thanks to all who support Sherry!

    Sincerely,
    Daryl
    shanamrdiv@yahoo.com

    Posted by: Daryl Smoliak at February 5, 2008 2:19 PM

    Posted by: Daryl Smoliak at February 5, 2008 9:42 PM

    ######
    All,

    I just thought to share this e-mail Ijust got from NRDC regarding Sonar and Whales.

    Dear Rosemarie,

    Your generous support got us back to federal court, where we've
    scored another big victory for whales -- this time over the
    President of the United States!

    Last night, a federal judge struck down a waiver issued by the
    White House that would have exempted the U.S. Navy from obeying
    a key environmental law during sonar training exercises that
    endanger whales.

    In doing so, the court affirmed the bedrock principle that we do
    NOT live under an imperial presidency. Both the White House and
    the military must obey and uphold our environmental laws.

    President Bush's waiver was a last-ditch attempt to let the Navy
    unleash an onslaught of military sonar off the coast of southern
    California -- home to five endangered species of whales --
    without taking precautions to protect marine mammals from a
    lethal bombardment of sound.

    Last month, the same judge -- U.S. District Judge Florence-Marie
    Cooper -- ordered the Navy to put safeguards in place during the
    sonar maneuvers in order to protect marine mammals from needless
    injury and death. Shortly after that ruling, President Bush
    issued his "emergency" waiver, attempting to override the
    court's order.

    In last night's ruling, Judge Cooper called the Navy's so-called
    emergency "a creature of its own making," and reaffirmed that
    the military can train effectively without needlessly harming
    whales.

    The Navy's maneuvers would take place near the Channel Islands
    -- one of the world's most sensitive marine environments. The
    Navy itself estimates that the booming sonar would harass or
    harm marine mammals some 170,000 times -- and cause permanent
    injury in more than 400 cases.

    The far-reaching precautions imposed on the Navy by Judge Cooper
    include a ban on mid-frequency sonar within 12 miles of the
    California coast -- a zone that is heavily used by migrating
    whales and dolphins -- and between the Channel Islands.

    Make no mistake: we must be fully prepared to keep fighting for
    those humane restrictions -- especially if the White House or
    Navy appeals this decision to a higher court.

    Your support and activism have taken us this far. I know you
    will continue standing with us in the courtroom battles ahead --
    until that day when whales no longer need to die for the sake of
    military practice.

    Here's a great segment about our victory from today's "Morning
    Edition" on National Public Radio:
    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=18689650

    Sincerely,

    Frances Beinecke

    Ro & Brady

    Posted by: Rosemarie at February 5, 2008 9:59 PM

    hay: called Session's peeples and then left a message for the Wellner person on his VM. Do they REALLY have animal-rights peeples, or do they actually have VM recordings for this purpose. this is why we NEVER hear back from them.....grrrrrrr.

    Posted by: jonna at February 5, 2008 10:01 PM

    ####

    ((((Pearl))) RIP

    Judy

    Posted by: Judy Scott-Ont, Canada at February 5, 2008 10:07 PM

    Good Night All,
    Time to go and vote. Super Tuesday and Fat Tuesday all together.

    Good Night Sweet Barbaro, have a good sleep.I hope you have NickerMaker dreams. I love you.

    (((((Pearl))))) RIP Did Whiskers find you yet?

    Posted by: Renee Antaya at February 5, 2008 10:12 PM

    Daryl: OY I am such a putz: I wrote an email to you for Shelley, not Sherry.....duh. I resent it to you with the correct name (imagine that) in place....
    thanks, dude.

    Posted by: jonna at February 5, 2008 10:12 PM

    ### On this day of election I think we all need to be very aware of the importance of who we elect. After a very depressing day reading the need to rescues on the DB's and TB Friends very sad, but true, page today, it is so very overwhelmingly clear that we are making a difference but not fast enough. The money needed to rescue so many horse is staggering. The word must be spread, stop breeding the backyard horse! Make the foal crops smaller and the need for homes for the "unwanted horse" obviously goes down. But people are broke- ad after ad on craigslist of cheap horses. Horses that would have sold for 1500 a few years ago, now sells for 600-700 or cheaper. Daryl had a great idea a year ago for his golf tournaments to raise money. I tried in St. louis, but couldnt get any help. I am going to try again to get a 5k or 10k run together to raise some money. Everyone loves the t-shirts and prizes. I have a friend who is an expert in organizing these and am going to have him guide my way. It is the only thing I can do to raise a large sum of money. The economy has to change, or these horses lives are not going to. I have 8 sets of eyes that I look into every night and tell them how lucky they have it. I wish that for all those other eyes in those feed lots. thanks for all everyone does and if you have any ideas to raise money- jump on it. jen

    Posted by: jen at February 5, 2008 10:19 PM

    ####
    CJ:
    re Pearl's passing in private: The thing that cemented a 25 year relationship with my current Vet was the death of my first Irish Wolfhound in 1982. I had just brought him to to this new Vet--half hour from my home, on the recommendation of Newfie breeders I knew.

    I called everyday, and then, on a day during the Thanksgiving vacation, Kerry came to the phone to tell me that they'd lost Finn that very afternoon.

    And he said--it took me years and many euthanasias later to understand this--that Finn was a gentleman, and he wanted to spare me...so he just went on his own.

    CJ: finding Pearl as you did is startling and difficult, but i really believe that was merely her earthly shell....beloved as it was, she just left that behind and went soaring. To be young and strong and full of the love you gave her all her earthly life...

    I too had the experience of finding a hound dead when I came home one day . A day after she was making great strides in recovery from bloat surgery--a big deal back then, There she was, in her favorite place, with her coal black legs tucked up under her, looking for all the world like she was sleeping. In fact, she was still warm...that one about killed me. The WHAT IFS--

    Ah well, they're all in a far better place, we do know that. And they're awaiting us...when you speak with Pearl, tell her to remember that some GH like to chase kitties--intent to kill isn't a part of Heaven--so tell her not to be afraid, that some GH just want to play. Others enjoy having their ears licked and make a very warm place to sleep when they curl up on their clouds at night.

    So, I send on more love because every loss like this is a brand new loss. Loss sucks. Stay close to your friends there and your friends here and your music friends...so many love you, and this will pull you through!

    You have been very busy in the caretaker mode...and you will need a new challenge to keep you busy after your heart begins to heal. I can't wait for the day you post to the ABR about your new pal. Because that's what Pearl would want: you and another Kitty: being loved and being comforted and being happy together...

    Posted by: jonna at February 5, 2008 10:34 PM

    Jonna, that was beautiful.

    Posted by: kathyb at February 5, 2008 10:41 PM

    Off to vote and then mosey down to the Vets to get a look at her swollen left rear foot. If they don't tell we that we're just dealing with a broken toe--or 2--my freaking head will fly off.

    How this all came up over a period of 2 hours while I was gone last night is just beyond me.
    Just another of those celestial jokes. We have been blessed by God with good health for this big population now for over a year....crossing fingers that this is nothing of consequence and besides dealing with the pain and swelling, it'll all be OK. RIGHT?!

    ttyl: J and Heart moseying out in about 10 minutes.

    Posted by: jonna at February 5, 2008 10:45 PM

    Oh, one more thing: (Thanks for your note, kb...) I have a friend among the GH folk here who has had some awful stuff come down in her life, with peeples and pets. Anyhow, Bidget had the idea --last disaster around--to market a sweatshirt that says, plainly:

    THIS JUST SUCKS.

    I believe we could get wealthy on this serves-all-the-sucky-things-in-life sweatshirt,
    think it would fit any miserable situation, right? I personally think B. is a stone-ground genius.....whatya think?

    Posted by: jonna at February 5, 2008 10:50 PM

    Yes, we are the FOBs, we can rescue the mare stuck in the mud. Bless her heart. Be patient as the FOBs are here, as soon as we get her out she has a home. Great!
    ###two months ago the hot water heater flooded the hall. Then 2 weeks ago the washing machine flooded everything. Then the furnace went out. Yesterday the dish washer flooded the kitchen. Chief and I have about washed away. I think I am going to have to find chief a job. or else my go back to (CRINGE) substitute teaching. well, we are still lucky and fortunate to have what we have.

    Posted by: sandra at February 5, 2008 10:51 PM

    Update on Erin

    Have been busy making calls and catching up on emails. Hope all is well. Love to all.

    Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at February 5, 2008 10:52 PM

    jonna, I will first in line to buy one of those sweatshirts.

    Posted by: sandra at February 5, 2008 10:57 PM

    ###
    Jonna Prayers it's nothing big for your baby! That was beautiful, tears.

    Posted by: Debbie L.A. at February 5, 2008 10:58 PM

    We JUST picked up another caller here in AZ. We have gotten three new ones the past week !

    PLEASE get involved with the state groups and MAKE A DIFFERENCE !

    Scroll down for State Groups.

    Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at February 5, 2008 11:16 PM

    extra Tuesday 2/5 national target list (HAHS)

    There will be no extra HAHS list today Tuesday 2/5 - BUT - there will be a double list tomorrow, Wednesday 2/6.

    This just posted at HAHS Yahoo Group site

    Hi all,

    Due to work issues I couldn't post today's faxing list in time; so there won't be a faxing list for today.

    However, tomorrow we will post a double one including both Reps and Senators in compensation.

    My apologies for not getting the list ready in time.

    Daniel [end crosspost from HAHS Yahoo site]

    IF you're done with the ABR Strategy instructions & State directions & STILL want to do more - you can go here: http://forums.delphiforums.com/alexbrown/messages?msg=15321.10 for a good alternate target list of Senators from AWI/SAPL.

    Posted by: C. Jaffe at February 5, 2008 11:24 PM

    Jonna, that's what I've been saying the most with Zorro's passing. It sucks.

    Posted by: kathyb at February 5, 2008 11:44 PM

    Whatever happened to becoming a veterinarian out of love & respect for animals & because you want to care for them. I sure wouldn't want to take the family pets to a vet that feels this way about horses. It would be like going to a family physician that believes it's okay to murder people.

    *****
    A veterinary student from the University of Washington wrote in an e-mail: “I greatly lament the horse slaughter ban in Texas and Illinois. I am not alone in this sentiment; the vast majority of large-animal veterinary students that I know of oppose the horse slaughter ban. “

    Posted by: Shirl at February 6, 2008 12:26 AM

    Hiya, FsOB! I have to get to RI for a (*&^ meeting at 7:45 AM tomorrow, so I probably can't post in the morning. And tomorrow night I have a town meeting, so posting then will be iff-y, too. Please have a great Weds. May we all have well-deserved golden slumbers tonight! Alex, please be careful, I feel like a worried Mother Hen after reading what happened to you while riding this AM. Peace, RMH

    #### To Liz: Yes, I'd forgotten about Shrove Tuesday, despite having seen some clips in advance of Mardi Gras on TV last weekend. Lent won't start for the Greek Orthodox community until early March, so my calendar is a tad confused these days. Hope you enjoyed some tasty hotcakes today. Do you ever eat Hot Cross Buns? Those are yummy!
    To Daryl on behalf of Sherry in AZ: Please send my good thoughts to Sherry. I am so sorry that she needed a transfusion and hope that her body responds quickly. How scary to have an unexpected illness become challenging so very quickly. All good wishes to Sherry!
    To Jonna: Thanks for posting Joe's blog from today.
    To Margie: Too funny that the 13 year old dog got so revved up from the snow! ####

    Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at February 6, 2008 2:02 AM

    Gosh Famblee:)

    I don't think I've been this excited about a presidential primary since Robert Kennedy was running....it's been a lonnnnng time!! :)

    Polls here in CA don't close for another two hours and they are saying we probably won't know until sometime tomorrow who 'takes it all'...goodness!!

    I just saw Tom Brokaw on NBC w/Brian Williams:) I miss Tom, and am always awfully happy to see him reporting on 'anything':)

    I'm hoping 'yole' got out there today and voted if your states were holding elections...it's pretty special and quite important...also hoping yole will have a great night tonight!! See ya tomorrow....

    Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at February 6, 2008 2:05 AM

    My heart beats for your heart, Barbaro, always and forever! Run with the angels honey!

    And all love to the Heavenly Herd, you know you take me to where angels walk!

    Holding paws, hands, hooves, feets with all the Barbaro Nation. . . .

    with love,
    Lou Ann

    Posted by: Lou Ann R., PA, FOB forever at February 6, 2008 2:14 AM

    Please everyone....say a prayer for people here in Arkansas tonight. We've had devastating weather throughout the state. All is safe here in Little Rock where I am however not too far from here there have been confirmed fatalities and major damage...one small town called Highland is "flattened." Keeping fingers crossed that these storms die down before moving off to the east...those in the path of these storms be safe tonight...Thanks...Tamme

    Posted by: Tamme at February 6, 2008 2:27 AM

    Hello all,
    just had to jump in- I've only read to posts from 5:59 and earlier, but here I go...
    The talk about humane euthanasia vs slaughter is interesting. People ask why others prefer to sell their horses at auction/abandon them rather than humanely euthanize. I think the answer is what I have learned from small animal rescue:

    for one, people are afraid to do "what must be done" (ie: take responsibility)for their own animals, people dump sickly, elderly and just plain dangerous animals on shelters and rescues with the plea that someone "please find them a new home, please don't ever put *my* animal down!" Note how the weight is entirely removed from the owner and onto someone else- YOU find the home, YOU keep this animal alive. Bye!

    Which leads to the second reason:
    It seems that people really do think that dumping their animals will lead to a magical new life for their pets. I think this is mostly because they can close their minds to other possibilities as long as they do not make an active decision. By abandoning or selling off their animals to whoever, they don't have to face the reality of death- they can pretend that Chester ran off onto the plains to join a wonderful wild herd, or that Bella was sold to a nice little girl who puts bows in her hair. They don't have to acknowledge that Chester starved to death or that Bella was bought by a killer. It's just like being a kid again- no responsibility, no reasoning ability necessary.

    There need to be people to make those tough decisions in the horse world- someone who will take these horses from the childlike people and make the hard adult decisions- "this animal needs expensive medical treatment or euthanasia" "this horse needs major behavioral modification or euthanasia" etc. In a way, the slaughterhouses are doing a lot of the thinking and taking responsibility for people right now, and it's not pretty.

    I would like to live in an America where unwanted and abandoned horses are sent to equine humane societies and rescues instead of "the killer." It's not such a far-fetched idea. It jsut takes a revolution!

    Posted by: JackieTundra at February 6, 2008 2:33 AM

    Wow, that was a long soapbox up yonder O.O

    I shouls have said I've read up to 5:23 or thereabouts, still catching up on posts...

    During my soapbox rant, I forgot to acknowledge: there is that other side of the coin you get with horses that you don't get with dogs, namely, people who think of horses as livestock and who expect to get money back from a "useless" animal like they would a cow, via slaughter. That's an entirely different scenario than what I deal with in small animal rescue, I must say I can't realte to it very well and my reasoning up above doesn't relate to that at all. I think it is this "livestock" mindset that has stalled the anti-slaughter campaign for so long, and it is the hardest mindset to overcome... people will gladly turn in their horses to rescues and shelters if they think of them as "pets," but those who think of them as livestock will always want their money's worth. That's a whole weird area I won't touch with a pole O.O

    Posted by: JackieTundra at February 6, 2008 2:49 AM

    STRATEGY FOR WEDNESDAY FEBRUARY 6

    AMERICANS AGAINST HORSE SLAUGHTER
    March 4 and 5th Washington DC
    Most of you already know that there is an exciting event coming up in DC on March 4 and 5th. Please click on the thread “Invitation from Paula Bacon” under the anti slaughter section of the DB or on top of the comment section. We need the FOB’s to come out in force to support Americans Against Horse Slaughter. If you are coming, please make sure you contact Julie so you can be included in the count.

    The recent victory in South Dakota proves that all Americans can make a difference. Not just the money people or lobbyists but the caring compassionate people sitting with their computers, fax machines and telephones. However, there will always be another South Dakota and horse slaughter plants trying to rear their ugly heads in this country again. We MUST get the federal legislation passed to make sure that never happens and to protect our horses from the inhumane transportation to a brutal death in other countries.

    In the past few weeks, newspapers have been full of news about the impact of the closure of the U.S. horse slaughterhouses last year. They are saying that abandonment, abuse, and horses found left on the roadside has increased. They have even been asserting ridiculously that there are now thousands of unwanted horses roaming around the country. They then warn that passing legislation to ban horse slaughter and export for slaughter will have even more dire consequences for our poor horses than what we are seeing now. YOU MUST SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT. Make sure that your Senators don’t fall for this propoganda.

    Please contact your Senators and Representatives and let them know how important it is to move quickly on this legislation. Let our co-sponsors know that we appreciate their support but we need more…..we need action. Let those still sitting on the fence know how close we came to once again knowing the horrors of horse slaughter on Amercian soil. After calling your Senators and Representatives to let them know how important this issue is, please contact Leadership about getting this to the floor for a vote.

    LIST WITH LEADERSHIP OFFICE TELEPHONE NUMBERS

    Senate Majority Leader: Harry Reid ph: 202-224-2158 fax: 202-224-7327
    Senate Minority Leader: Mitch McConnell ph: 202-224-3135 fax: 202-226-1374
    Senate President Pro Tempore: Robert C. Byrd ph: 202-224-3954 fax: 202-228-0002
    Assistant Majority Leader: Dick Durbin ph: 202-224-9447 fax: 202-228-0400
    Assistant Minority Leader: Jon Kyl ph: 202-224-4521 fax: 202-228-0034

    Remember….WE ARE BARBARO’S VOICE…….let it be heard!!!
    Thanks for all your hard work and dedication.
    Shelley and Debra

    Posted by: ShelleyA at February 6, 2008 2:59 AM

    who knows HOW but Heart seems to have two either 1.) punctures or 2.)blowouts between two of the worst toes. Xrays look pristine for an old gal who did a lot of running. Their xrays are usually postively gnarly; legs, backs, etc...but no sign of the evil OS. Slides showed lotsa bacteria in the stuff issuing from the blown-out abcess-y looking things.

    So she gets a whallop of penicillan and something else--i wasn't paying attention at that moment, just feeling her pain from this evil injection. SO next: Nolvasan SOAK SOAK SOAK> and then hotpack in between....and we hope that the swelling comes back down her freaking LEG and the toes get smaller and then she'll be on Clavamox (I want stock in Clavamox).

    My beautiful beautiful Heart....she'll be 10 in July. keep us in your prayers tonight. we'll be busy, glad we got the upfront work on this done today, tomorrow supposed to be wet, icy and then snowy...

    AND YES LYNNE I DID VOTE IN THE NY PRIMARY. It'll be Hillary in NY: my "guess," not much of a prognostication...

    OK back to hot packing.

    Posted by: jonna at February 6, 2008 3:07 AM

    Hello FOBS, had a chance to read all the posts and now I'm fully updated :)
    Cheryl and Jean, thank you so much for your comments re: Sassy. Thank you all who continue to pray and light candles for her- for a while she was now neglected, but now, even in passing, she is so loved...
    I'm feeling a bit better today, I felt she was "with" me when I went back to work. It was hard not seeing her around and I wanted to stop and play with her a few times... When I'm very lonely and can't sleep at night I just picture her by my side and I don't feel so bad. I still miss her earthly presence and am trying to accept her passing as a gift to her, sometimes I can't stand what I perceive as the unfairness of her loss and sometimes I do see her death as a release. I hope that someday I will fully accept that this was the best for her and euthanasia can be a gift.
    That's the difficulty in rescue- learing to accept euthanasia as a final lasting gift, learning not to shut down and become cold by perceiving death as a "cruelty that we must do." Thinking of performing cruelty on animals locks down our hearts, thinking of giving one last gift opens it. I hope Sassy will help me to understand this revelation.
    I still wish I could have gotten her a home... *shakes head* stubborn regrets. I don't think animals have them...

    To CJ: Pearl is free now. It is hard to accept losing their earthly bodies, but know that she is free of the pain her body caused her. She chose her time. You did good by her.

    Hugs to Sherry, prayers that you are feeling better *very* soon! We are all here for you!

    Posted by: JackieTundra at February 6, 2008 3:20 AM

    hAy famblee, Happy Super Tuesday. Second the earlier post about being careful whom we elect, at ALL levels--and vote vote vote. Help others get to the polls!

    That said, the Herd has been dumping enormous troffs on us all day. Flash flood warnings everywhere, snow to follow on top of the 8.5 inches that fell last Thursday and has ALREADY melted. Maggie and SlewReigns out on the Left Coast of Missouri are doomed to get 6 or more inches of snow tonight.

    Enough weather ranting--that was just a warm-up. "Horse harvesting"??? "Horse processing"??? qWhat unmitigated gall, what pure TRASH!

    Admit it, slaughter fans. You're raising horses for the sole purpose of slaughter. You're ashamed to admit it, and well you should be. If you can't admit this heinous practice, that should tell you something.

    You hide behind rhetorical garbage and say the current increase in abuse and starvation cases is due to not having the slaughter option. Bullsh*t, you HAVE the slaughter option RIGHT NOW and thousands are dying in those plants every day.
    STOP indiscriminate breeding. STOP selling hay to Japan and China and let it stay here.

    Another thing that really raises my hackles is that, when it comes to "unwanted" humans, South Dakota has the strictest laws of any state in the Union. I'm not here to start a debate on that topic, and PLEASE don't anyone else do so. I'm just pointing out that as far as I'm concerned, this just underscores that horse slaughter is only about money for the supporters.

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 6, 2008 3:21 AM

    hAy famblee, Happy Super Tuesday. Second the earlier post about being careful whom we elect, at ALL levels--and vote vote vote. Help others get to the polls!

    That said, the Herd has been dumping enormous troffs on us all day. Flash flood warnings everywhere, snow to follow on top of the 8.5 inches that fell last Thursday and has ALREADY melted. Maggie and SlewReigns out on the Left Coast of Missouri are doomed to get 6 or more inches of snow tonight.

    Enough weather ranting--that was just a warm-up. "Horse harvesting"??? "Horse processing"??? qWhat unmitigated gall, what pure TRASH!

    Admit it, slaughter fans. You're raising horses for the sole purpose of slaughter. You're ashamed to admit it, and well you should be. If you can't admit this heinous practice, that should tell you something.

    You hide behind rhetorical garbage and say the current increase in abuse and starvation cases is due to not having the slaughter option. Bullsh*t, you HAVE the slaughter option RIGHT NOW and thousands are dying in those plants every day.
    STOP indiscriminate breeding. STOP selling hay to Japan and China and let it stay here.

    Another thing that really raises my hackles is that, when it comes to "unwanted" humans, South Dakota has the strictest laws of any state in the Union. I'm not here to start a debate on that topic, and PLEASE don't anyone else do so. I'm just pointing out that as far as I'm concerned, this just underscores that horse slaughter is only about money for the supporters.

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 6, 2008 3:21 AM

    Sorry about my double post. My puder was doing some weird freeze/unfreeze/freeze thing.

    Shirl and Jackie, great posts, just great.

    Sherry in AZ, you amazing, inspirational, woman, please get well, and soon. Sending tons of thoughts and prayers your way, my fren.

    Jonna, so glad to hear Heart will be okay!!

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 6, 2008 3:25 AM

    Forgot to add the link to Sassy's candles:

    http://www.gratefulness.org/candles/candles.cfm?l=eng&gi=Sassy

    Thank you for caring :)

    Posted by: JackieTundra at February 6, 2008 3:25 AM

    Jonna, hope Heart is feeling better VERY soon! Praying for less pain...

    Posted by: JackieTundra at February 6, 2008 3:29 AM

    Hello y'all. Slauterin horses is bad and whoever is responsible for it should be put away. It just makes me sick. Did ya know that in mexico they stab the horses repeatedly in the spine to cripple them so that they can hang em alive from their rear hooves before they slit their throats? Them mexicans are pure filthy scum!

    Posted by: Bobby Jo Sue at February 6, 2008 3:35 AM

    Jackie Tundra, Susan E. WELL SAID/WRITTEN 'AND' POSTED!! :)

    Jonna..I'm so sorry for Heart...and for you, too! Geesh, it's always something, huh?! Soaking/hot packs...antibiotics....GOT SKOR BARS? :)
    Glad you voted, Jonna:) Yes, Hilary!! I've heard from a most 'reliable source', Hilary has done 'alotsa' good for up-state NY since becoming Senator there:)

    CA is just about to close the polling places in about 20 minutes...but if peeples are in line, they will be allowed to VOTE:) even AFTER 8P!! I am SO 'excitled' to see the outcome here:) I guess it is also different this time 'round, because of our early primary....we have always voted in June before...so this is kinda neat, we are a 'real player' this time! Or at least it feels that way to me:)

    Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at February 6, 2008 3:43 AM

    Going to watch Firebrand & Heart, simultaneously. then try for some sleep. Her fever seems to be down, loosely wrapped the foot and put a sock on it (haha) and gave her a half dose of metacam...for the pain.

    And as for the rest of yole, the trolls are out tonight. That'd be my guess, anyway. (and yes, FoBs I have seen the MX tapes: that's where my White Mare was reborn...Love and courage.)

    Special hugs for CJ. and Sherry AZ
    A demain: xxoo

    (BTW: I have a feeling SD isn't dead yet.
    But we can take care of that, can't we: snark/snark.) We are pretty damned awesome, eh?

    Posted by: jonna at February 6, 2008 4:14 AM

    Goodnight all,
    (((hugs))) to those in need tonight!

    Posted by: JackieTundra at February 6, 2008 4:22 AM

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    Lynne Brown, I'm enjoying your Super Tuesday enthusiasm. I am glad that people are getting out and voting today. I'm seeing some results I didn't expect, and from what I've seen so far, neither party is going to be any closer to having a clear front runner after today. This election is like none other. Definitely one for the books.

    I went to the polls around 1:40 today, counting on a lull. I got in right before a busload of very mature seniors whose eagerness to get in there and vote was a joy to see. My (almost) 94 year old grandma is very political, though she has to vote absentee.

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 6, 2008 4:55 AM

    Jonna, yes, the South Dakota bill is like the mythical hydra.

    But eventually, the hydra was defeated, and so shall horse slaughter be defeated.

    Posted by: Susan E. at February 6, 2008 5:19 AM

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    Hi Susan:) Gosh!! It IS so exciting for a change, isn't it?:) I'm really enjoying this night filled with 'election results'....:) Hillary seems to be wayyyyyy out 'front' in these early results....they usually don't fall backwards....I giggled a little...Governor 'Terminator' has come out in support of McCain...however, his wife and 18 yr old daughter both voted for Obama earlier today:)

    Just really feels GOOD to be 'happy' about an election for a change:) Gives promise for *NEW* thinking/doing in DC and I'm SURE ready for *NEW* in DC!!! :)

    Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

    Posted by: Lynne Brown at February 6, 2008 5:20 AM

    #Lynne,greetings from down south! Ive been soooo excited too about our primary finally making a difference! Go Obama! (Will be brave and say his name since its midnight and no one will yell at me LOL)

    Daryl,please tell Sherry how much I enjoyed her stories of Gunner,and her updates here while waiting for him to arrive in AZ. (((Sherry)))

    That sounded scary Alex!

    Posted by: Nancy Jean/HB,Ca. at February 6, 2008 8:02 AM

    Hay Nancy Jean!!!

    WE are here.....LOL !!! The westcoast is still UP!!! Watch those Obama comments!!! LOL I saw that!!! Ha!! HA !!! I do think I'm a Hilary fan???? Since she co-sponsored the bill and actually spoke out against horse slaughter....

    Good to see you again !!! Even if you did say the
    "O" word !!! LOL

    ((((((((((NancyJean)))))))))))

    Posted by: Maribel at February 6, 2008 8:09 AM

    Oh! Maribel! Ive been busted! hahahaha! Im sitting here LMAO!

    hay,Mr.O co-sponsored too Missy! hahahahaha!

    Posted by: Nancy Jean/HB,Ca. at February 6, 2008 8:12 AM

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    Nancy Jean
    I apologize profusely for my grievous error....I understood that he did not co-sponsor but reported that he would support the bill if it came to a vote???? I have not been on the board so perhaps he has had a change of heart???

    Good job I don't get a vote !!!! LOL

    SO SORRY MR. "O" !!!

    Posted by: Maribel at February 6, 2008 8:54 AM

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