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Update 3042: John White, HRTV analyst who I met at Delta Downs and discussed Barbaro with affection, writes this about what might have been: It's Post Time: Barbaro Remembered.

Update 3041: Pfizer is participating in a marketing deal to broaden the reach of the Barbaro Memorial Fund: Laminitis Research Gets a Boost.

Update 3040: Old Friends has a new resident: Will's Way To Old Friends. Coincidently I was actually chatting to Michael Blowen this morning, but on the topic of our anti slaughter event in DC.

Update 3039: The weather was a little mixed this morning with threatening rain, which really did not materialize. It was also quite warm. We had eight sets, and nearly everything went well ... except our Jock, Jose Figuerao got dumped after breezing a horse. Fortunately he (and the horse) were fine ... but we could give Fig plenty of grief especially after he made it into the Houston Chronicle today (could not find the article online) for having ridden his 200th career win aboard Chromdoll on Sunday. She is one I gallop. What did we get for his 200th win ... some soggy donuts from his agent Travis! Come on ... anyway, a fun morning.

Update 3038: Steve Haskin takes an early look at the prospects for this year's Kentucky Derby: Ky. Derby Trail: What Foot Forward?

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Me first!

Posted by: Margaret at January 31, 2008 11:04 AM

Victory in South Dakota!


*************************
CALLING ALL TARHEELS
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North Carolina REALLY needs your help
to pass S311 / HR503..

If you want to join the NC anti slaughter group
please email:

antislaughterlobby@earthlink.net

Posted by: Christian at January 31, 2008 11:26 AM

Now I must see Churchill Downs. Never even thought about it before Barbaro. But it is now a "bucket list" Love to Barbaro Thanks Alex

Posted by: jane at January 31, 2008 11:32 AM

Hiya, FsOB! TGI's Thursday. Wishing everyone a productive day. Peace, RMH

#### To Lynne B: Did I read that you're adopting a horse? Wow, how cool!
To Glenda: On Monday I wore the lovely beaded piece that you sent to me last Summer. I always get compliments on it. The cord is purple. ####

Posted by: Robyn Hoffmann at January 31, 2008 11:48 AM

Morning skritches to the BBH, Sir JH, Gorgeous George and the rest of the stellar gang in Equine Heaven.

And for down below this last day of the first month:

STRATEGY FOR THURSDAY JANUARY 31

The defeat of the bill in South Dakota has renewed us and energized us once again. Make no mistake…..YOU are responsible for the victory in South Dakota. It has once again proven that all Americans can make a difference. Not just the money people or lobbyists but the caring compassionate people sitting with their computers, fax machines and telephones.

It also proves the power of a house united. Many people that haven’t been around in a while have returned and joined in this mission. We need you to stay! There were times that many have gotten disheartened and thought “why bother, we’re not making a difference”. Tuesday told you differently!! By sheer numbers and determination we have defeated horse slaughter in an agricultural state like South Dakota. That is no simple task and not one to take lightly.

However, there will always be another South Dakota and horse slaughter plants trying to rear their ugly heads in this country again. We MUST get the federal legislation passed to make sure that never happens. We MUST get the federal legislation passed to protect our horses from the inhumane transportation to a brutal death in other countries.

Please use this week to spread the word about what happened in South Dakota and let them know how we dodged a bullet this time! Contact your Senators and Representatives and let them know how important it is to move quickly on this legislation. Let our co-sponsors know that we appreciate their support but we need more…..we need action. Let those still sitting on the fence know how close we came to once again knowing the horrors of horse slaughter on American soil. Let them know that the Senator in South Dakota said “We can now corner the market on horse slaughter”. Let them know the core values of the American public will not tolerate that attitude toward these majestic animals that are icons of our country.

So, while we celebrate, let us not become complacent but rather more determined than ever to get this done once and for all! And when those who do not believe say that we can’t make a difference, stand tall and say loudly YES WE CAN!!!

We made a promise to fulfill the job that Barbaro started. We must keep that promise! Let us move forward with passion to keep his legacy alive.

We are BARBARO’S VOICE……let it be heard!!

Thanks for everything you do.

Shelley and Debra

Posted by: ShelleyA at January 31, 2008 12:53 AM

Cheers,
Friar Tuck

Posted by: Friar Tuck at January 31, 2008 11:56 AM

Good morning FOB family,

Like many others, I have a red rose on my desk in honor of Barbaro, but today I am going to add a white rose to honor our white mare in Mexico and her herd. RIP all you beautiful horses. None of will be forgotton.


Jane - CD is on the top of by bucket list!!

Posted by: Patty in Dallas at January 31, 2008 12:14 PM

Good morning,praying that all the Senators and Rep now what happened in SD. Please make your call.

Have a great day.

Posted by: Carol Nichols at January 31, 2008 12:46 PM

We need to get to Craig!

Dear Mr. and Mrs. Nichols:

Thank you for contacting me about legislation to prohibit horse slaughter. I am pleased to hear from you.

As a long-time advocate for animal protection, I understand your concerns regarding the treatment of horses. S. 311, introduced by Senator Mary Landrieu (D-LA), would effectively ban the slaughter of American horses for human consumption. I am closely monitoring this legislation. You might be interested to know that I supported an amendment to the Fiscal Year 2006 Agriculture Appropriations bill (P.L. 109-97) that prohibited the U.S. Department of Agriculture from using federal tax dollars to inspect horse slaughter facilities, thereby closing all such facilities within our country's borders.

As you may know, on December 5, 2007, Senator Larry Craig (R-ID) announced that he has placed a hold on S.311. Senator Craig has expressed concerns about what will happen to unwanted horses should S. 311 pass, including fears that owners will release unwanted horses onto our public lands. At this time, he has not withdrawn his hold on the legislation. Should the full Senate have the opportunity to consider S. 311, please be assured that I will remain mindful of your support.

Again, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with me. For more information about my work for Nevada, my role in the United States Senate Leadership, or to subscribe to regular e-mail updates on the issues that interest you, please visit my Web site at http://reid.senate.gov. I look forward to hearing from you in the near future.

My best wishes to you.

Sincerely,


HARRY REID

United States Senator

Nevada


Posted by: Carol Nichols at January 31, 2008 12:49 PM

I want once and for all to put the issues about Another Comfortable Night to rest..Please do not respond to this on the Board, you can email me if you want.

Those stories are acts of love, love of Barabro's chosen for him and how he affected him. I did not write the book, so therefore I am not the one rejected. I am not in need of how to deal with rejection, the need to look deep inside myself for an answer..The stories are the true meaning of what Barbaro stood for to the common man, not the racey set, not the rich;the common man, US.
The stories were from people all across the U.S. and Cananda, Hawaii and Puerto Rico.

Mrs Jackson and her attorneys threatened legal ramifications should I try to publish them. That was rather funny because I was tryting to GIVE the stories to her, so they could benefit laminitis research for UPENN.

So far everything I have read about Barbaro is a repeat..until some author gets the REAL story, the human story, Barbaro's story will not be told.

I hope Kit can write and intends to write that kind of book. I don't know what her intentions are,interviewing the Jacksons, Alex, Matz, Richardson, Brette, etc..all has been done and said and written.. If she will write about the people Barbaro spoke to, then I praise her and I urge you to help her. Share your stories with her, make Barbaro ALIVE inside her. This is the REAL phenomenon of Barbaro, not how fast he ran but how he touched lives and changed people.


O' GREAT SPIRIT
help me always
to speak the truth quietly,
to listen with an open mind
when others speak,
and to remember the peace
that may be found in silence.

Cherokee Prayer

Posted by: Harriette Brillianthawk at January 31, 2008 12:53 PM

Please read the lead sentence in this story from today's NY Times!

January 31, 2008
Economists Dissect the ‘Yuck’ Factor
By PATRICIA COHEN
WASHINGTON — You can kill a horse to make pet food in California, but not to feed a person. You can hoist a woman over your shoulder while running a 253-meter obstacle course in the Wife-Carrying World Championship in Finland, but you can’t hold a dwarf-tossing contest in France. You can donate a kidney to prevent a death and be hailed as a hero, but if you take any money for your life-saving offer in the United States, you’ll be jailed.

These prohibitions are not imposed because of concerns about health or safety or unfair practices, some economists say, but because people tend to find such activities repugnant. In other words, just hearing about them can cause a queasy sensation in the pit of your stomach.

People don’t pay enough attention to how repugnance affects decisions about what can be bought and sold, asserts Alvin Roth, an economist at Harvard University.

Mr. Roth spoke at a recent panel on the economics of repugnance at the American Enterprise Institute, a conservative research organization in Washington. For conservatives the issue can be particularly pointed. Economic conservatives tend to favor eliminating as many hindrances on the market as possible, while social conservatives believe some practices are so “repugnant” — because they violate traditional values or religious and moral prohibitions — that they should be banned from the marketplace altogether.

Of course the dividing line between mercenary, soulless capitalists and defenders of human dignity is not always clear. As Mr. Roth pointed out, ideas about what is repugnant change all the time. Selling oneself into indentured servitude was once thought permissible, while charging interest on loans was not.

In recent years groups have fought over whether it is acceptable to display and sell art that offends religious sensibilities, like a photograph of a crucifix in urine or a sculpture of Jesus on the cross, made out of chocolate. “Bodies ... The Exhibition” and similar shows, which feature the preserved and dissected remains of people, would once have been considered both ghoulish and profane. Although religious leaders, human-rights activists and medical officials have condemned the cadaver exhibitions, the displays have attracted millions of visitors in the United States and around the world.

And last week a woman in Ohio whose ad to sell a horse mistakenly appeared under the heading “Good Things to Eat” in a newspaper’s classified section received dozens of calls, some expressing outrage and others from people interested in turning it into dinner. (In Europe and Japan horse meat on a menu would stir no more comment than macaroni and cheese would in an American diner.)

Arthur C. Brooks, a professor of government and business at Syracuse University who moderated the Washington panel, spoke of how he — like thousands of other Americans — carried $7,000 in hundred dollar bills to ease the adoption of an abandoned baby in China despite a visceral reaction against the idea of buying and selling children.

“It’s very hard to predict what’s repugnant and what’s not,” Mr. Roth said. Paul Bloom, a professor of psychology at Yale, agreed. He conducted a two-year study to try to get at why people consider athletes who take steroids to be cheating, but not those who take vitamins or use personal trainers. He and his team offered different possibilities: What if steroids were completely natural? Or were not at all harmful? Or were only effective if the athlete had to work harder than before?

The only change that caused the interviewed subjects to alter their objections to steroids was when they were told that everyone else thought it was all right. “People have moral intuitions,” Mr. Bloom said. When it comes to accepting or changing the status quo in these situations, he said, they tended to “defer to experts or the community.”

Often introducing money into the exchange — putting it into the marketplace — is what people find repugnant. Mr. Bloom asserted that money is a relatively new invention in human existence and therefore “unnatural.”

Economists are asking the wrong question, Mr. Bloom said at the panel. They assume that “everything is subject to market pricing unless proven otherwise.”

“The problem is not that economists are unreasonable people, it’s that they’re evil people,” he said. “They work in a different moral universe. The burden of proof is on someone who wants to include” a transaction in the marketplace. (Mr. Roth, who acknowledges that “economists see very few tradeoffs as completely taboo,” did not take the criticism personally.)

The theologian Michael Novak, who is also a resident scholar at the American Enterprise Institute, similarly argued that “not all ethical principles fit under economic reasoning,” adding, “the resistance to money is very old and very deep.”

Money is clearly the issue in situations involving the human body. Paying young women for eggs to be fertilized and men for sperm is now common practice — even though they are still regularly referred to as “donors.” Yet the sale of tissue, cells and eggs for stem-cell research or organs for transplant are still the subject of vehement dispute.

Pope John Paul II said that treating human organs as part of any commercial exchange is “morally unacceptable,” a view echoed by the Council of Europe’s Convention on Human Rights and Biomedicine.

In the United States federal law prohibits the sale or purchase of human organs. The American Kidney Foundation itself opposes payments on the ground that it “devalues life.” And the conservative bioethicist Leon Kass, who was chairman of the President’s Council on Bioethics from 2002 to 2005, has called the commercialization of body parts “just inherently wrong.”

“If we come to think about ourselves like pork bellies, pork bellies we will become,” Mr. Kass has written.

Sally Satel, a psychiatrist and resident scholar at the institute who was herself the recipient of a kidney donation in 2006, asserts that the issue does not need to pit human dignity against saving a life. “A salaried fireman who saves a life is not less heroic,” she said. “An object or act can have a price and still be invaluable.”

She has forcefully argued in The New York Times Magazine and elsewhere that the sale of human organs with proper oversight to prevent exploitation of the poor should be permitted. There are 74,000 people on the waiting list, and in 2006 about 4,400 died before they could get a kidney. The need is too great, she said. The Nobel Prize-winning economist Gary Becker and his colleague Julio Jorge Elias have even calculated how much a kidney should sell for to eliminate the backlog completely.

In recent years Mr. Roth has helped set up “paired kidney donations,” in effect, allowing sets of donors and patients to swap kidneys in order to find a compatible one. These kidney exchanges, which started in 2005, have gained growing acceptance nationwide, he said.

To Mr. Novak instinctual human revulsion is an important attribute. Quoting Aristotle, he said “repugnance makes a necessary contribution to the good life, especially when there is not time for intellectual evaluation.” A number of psychologists, philosophers and biologists (most recently Stephen Pinker, also in The Times Magazine) have similarly argued that repugnance is morality’s early warning system, an alarm bell that warns that a subject deserves moral scrutiny.

Still, such intuitions are “not always the best director,” Mr. Novak said. As in the case of kidney transplants, one must choose “between two great moral ends,” he said.

That is why, he added, “mere repugnance is not enough.”


Posted by: andy at January 31, 2008 12:55 PM

Good Morning Barbaro

ACN...we know that within all our hearts...we love you and miss you...and pray you keep your sweet spirit near us....We have a battle to win..a war to fight...STOP HORSE SLAUGHTER AND STOP TRANSPORTATION ACROSS THE BORDERS.

Barbaro...please ask God to help us...only He can answer our prayers.

Good Morning Family/Fans of Barbaro

Please call, fax, email...we speak for those who cannot speak for themselves...PLEASE.

Also, Georga Saving Dogs need our vote and a small donation...please read the db today is the deadline.

Remember all of our rescues, the bad weather, shortage of grain and hay, they are there for us..please be there for them.

Our Fallen Angels...they gave their lives against their wills...the neglect and the abuse...all of this for all animals and children has to cease.

Also remember the ones suffering, human or animal, our wildlife, and our loving family.

Have a bless day....and keep the candles burning...the numbers look wonderful...but most of all keep the flame in your hearts to get Barbaro's Bill Passed.

####
Good Morning Alex.
Good Morning Tim and Fair Hill.
Our Fallen Angels...we are here.

ALL OF YOU ARE VERY SPECIAL, ALL OF YOU ARE IMPORTANT, AND ALL OF YOU ARE OUR LOVING FAMILY.

Posted by: joan roya at January 31, 2008 1:12 PM

Barbaro you live in my heart!

Good morning my friends at MHR.

PASS BILL PASS

FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION!

For Barbaro, for Fitch, for Apache, for Ho'pats and all horses.

Ro & Brady

Posted by: Rosemarie at January 31, 2008 1:42 PM

Please help Saving Georgia Dogs!! You can go on their site www.savinggeorgiadogs.org and click on the orange badge. Just $10.00 to help them save many, many more lives. This is a small grassroots organization and they are competing against larger more organized charities.

"PLEASE DON'T LET THIS OPPORTUNITY SLIP BY - IT IS DISHEARTENING THAT THIS PLEA HAS BEEN SENT TO OVER 2,000 animal rescue/welfare members, and yet we are losing to Vivisector - Research groups! "

We need Saving Geogia dogs to be in the TOP FOUR TO WIN THE GRANT!!!! "Please cross post to every family member, vet, friend, pet owner, work, school, and church friend you can! It is NOT the amount, it is based on the number of individual donations - please, there is only 24 more hours!!! Don't let the Georgia Shelter animals lose this opportunity - too many already die for lack of funding in gassing chambers. Please - don't hesitate - we can DO THIS!"

!! Here's the link to the badges:

http://www.sixdegrees.org/Top.aspx

THE CONTEST ENDS AT 3 P.M. THURSDAY, JANUARY 31 (EST) SO GET YOUR DONATIONS IN!

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Posted by: Michie at January 31, 2008 1:42 PM

Wonderful Anti-Slaughter T-shirts at Cloud's Country Store via Cafe Press on the MHR website.

">Cloud's Country Store

Ro & Brady

Posted by: Rosemarie at January 31, 2008 1:47 PM

OOPPPS...

The preview showed the link. Anyway here is the URL http://www.cafepress.com/miraclehorse

The shirt is of Apple's eye with an anti-slaughter slogan.

Ro & Brady

Posted by: Rosemarie at January 31, 2008 1:48 PM

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Michele....email me at Joan77521@aol.com....I will donate for these dogs....I need your help to help me do this...please.

Posted by: joan roya at January 31, 2008 1:51 PM

THE GEORGIA DOGS

If you go here: http://www.sixdegrees.org/Top.aspx
and click on the upper right hand corner it gives a pretty good explanation of how this "contest" works.

The goal is to get people donating--in big numbers--not the amount they donate. The GEORGIA DOGS are in the first column on that 6 Degrees page.

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 2:17 PM

Good morning everybuddy! There are picture's of "Lynne Brown's horse" on the DB. Look on the thread "Gelding in Trouble in So. Cal". I will go bump it so you can find it easier.

Posted by: Kathy In SC at January 31, 2008 2:19 PM

I just donated: it's a super secure site...and remember, they are looking for big participation, not huge donations. Of course, if you WANT to make a huge donation, the dogs in that crappy Georgia "shelter" will be very pleased...

Contest ends today at 3pm est, I believe.

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 2:26 PM

####
Carol Nichols
Senator Larry Craig (R-ID) announced that he has placed a hold on S.311. Senator Craig has expressed concerns, Why on God green earth would he listen to Craig? The unmoral person that he is. How can we remove that hold? We really need to do this.

###
Andy interesting, but not true. They stopped using horsemeat in pet food in the 70's.
#################################################

Alabama calling group have received their list of calls for today.
If you live in Alabama and wish to stop horse slaughter by making some calls, faxes and emails.\
PLEASE JOIN our group, we need help!
email me Debbie

##########################################

Posted by: Debbie L.A. at January 31, 2008 2:31 PM

Posted by: Nancy in CT at January 31, 2008 2:34 PM

####1-31-08 Kentucky Equine Humane Center Fundraising Update

The fund raising continues. I encourage anyone who is interested to contribute to the Rescue Organization's fundraising event (class sponsorship for All Breeds Horse Show). To get more detail please see the discussion board or e-mail me at jbryan@bhsi.com

http://forums.delphiforums.com/AlexBrown/messages/?msg=18926.1

When I receive your check I will e-mail you. So, if you haven't heard from me and you think I should have a check in hand please e-mail me.

####Congratulations to all on the overwhelming response shown in South Dakota. We can do it! Just stay united and keep the faith.

Posted by: Jennie (Kentucky) at January 31, 2008 2:36 PM

Hay, FOB's!

###
Lynne Brown, congratulations on becoming a horsemommy...pictures...we need pictures.

###
Wendy, thank you for posting my pics from Sunday/Monday. I'll have to find out how to use Photobucket...hope its easy...:)

###
Am still absorbing Monday and Tuesday. Laura, read your blog this a.m. and its fabulous.

###
Am leaving for the ranch shortly - am worried about Illusion.

I know the next statement is REALLY off topic - please forgive this one but it has meaning for me...

###
chant session 2/16 - NYC. The drought has ended...

Healing, Love, Peace
ONS
Padme

Posted by: Padme (Lyn Gilbert) at January 31, 2008 2:38 PM

####
Thank you Jonna.
And Renee...peope are money hungry....the care, love, and what is right....goes over some peoples heads when it comes down to money...VERY SAD...

Posted by: joan roya at January 31, 2008 2:39 PM

Horse-slaughtering ban: Breeders fear for the horse population


Posted: Jan 30, 2008 07:17 PM


Cindy Davis


"With all due respect, Congress is out of touch with reality," said breeder Lynn Fischer of Wagner, South Dakota.


It's a reality that stares him and others in the equine industry in the face every day: what to do with sick, disabled, or elderly horses.


"If we don't have a plant for these horses and dispose of them, we're going to be more inhumane. These horses aren't going to get fed, they aren't going to get cared for, we're going to have more accidents on roads, horses turned loose," added Fischer.


Those are the concerns he and his colleagues say are over-shadowed by activists who have the ears of congress.


"The plants that have closed are because of the rules that have been shuffled, and I mean this truly, shuffled under the table to get them passed in our government. Our government doesn't realize how big this problem is," said Alan Odden, an auctioneer from Miller, South Dakota.


As it is now, breeders take horses, which are valued at less than $1,000, to sale. If there's a buyer, the animals are hauled to Canada or Mexico... A pricy venture with gas prices at a near record.


The alternative: euthanasia and disposal.


"That'll cost you $300, $250 minimum. A lot of the owners aren't going to put that kind of money into doing that humane act, that isn't going to happen," said Fischer.


"I feel a lot of our horse people, if they have one or two horses, they don't think that this thing affects them, but it does. It affects every horse owner in the world," said Odden.


Opponents argue that many of the horses at slaughter plants are in good condition, and they've garnered bi-partisan support.


But those at the Black Hills Stock Show and Rodeo wonder why people outside of horse country seem to have the most influence in Washington.


http://horses.generitek.com


A man of kindness, to his beast is kind.
But, brutal actions, show a brutal mind:
Remember, He who made thee, made the brute,
Who gave thee speach and reason, formed him mute;
He can't complain, but God's omnicient eye
Beholds thy cruelty - He hears his cry!
He was designed thy servant; not thy drudge,
But know - That his Creator is thy judge.


Unknown author from The Ladies' Equestrian Guide, 1857.


"They too, are created by the same loving hand of God which
Created us...It is our duty to Protect Them and to promote their
well-being. "
--Mother Teresa.


"Until he extends his circle of compassion to all living things, man himself will not find peace. " - Albert Schweitzer 1875 - 1965

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 2:43 PM

####Good Morning Robyn, it is much calmer here today, but a snowstorm on its way for tomorrow, the herd is restless.

Good Morning Renee, how are you today?

((((Lynee, the horsey mom))))Yippeeeeeeee, Skipeeeee for you, you will be the bestest. Can't wait for pictures.

Harriette, I have reprinted your Cherokee prayer and is right in front of me for words to live by each day, thank you.

Alex, I forgot to apologize to you yesterday for my outburst, I am truly sorry and in did not mean to be disrespectful of this site.

Have a good day everyone, keep safe and warm,

Judy

Posted by: Judy Scott-Ont, Canada at January 31, 2008 2:48 PM

Joan,
I was brought up to respect life...and I do. I don't care if it is a cow,pig,horse,bird,wolf. They are all living innocent creatures who deserve respect and dignity, they are all beautiful, all have a heart and hurt.

I really have a very big problem with meaness and greed.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 2:49 PM

NEW SLAUGHTER VIDEO.....
This has to do with cattle, but its a big eye-opener!!!!!

This is out on CNN this morning:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/01/30/undercover.slaughter.video/index.html

YOU DON'T HAVE TO WATCH THE VIDEO IF YOU DON'T WANT TO --- THERE IS AN ARTICLE THAT ACCOMPANIES IT THAT IS VERY INFORMATIVE.

Sorry, you will just have to copy and paste, I'm not sure how the blue thingy stuff works.

These slaughterhouses can't even be humane to the cows and in my opinion, the horse is a much more sensitive animal.

Makes me glad I turned into a veggie sometime back, more Americans need to do that --- you're healthier and you're not contributing to this sort of thing.

Posted by: Catherine Owen at January 31, 2008 2:56 PM

Good Morning Judy,
Good to see you this morning. We are due for a mess starting tonight, yuck. Be careful.

Lynne Brown, FrenandsisterinBarbaro That horse will be so lucky to have you as it's horsiemommy. Just remember you can only kiss and pet it so much, please don't wear the fur off...neeked horses look funny. The best of luck to you, my heart is so excited for you it's jumping.God and Barbaro have blessed another horse with a good loving home.
We Believe!

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 2:57 PM

Catherine,
I saw it last night. The world is a mean place. How sad was that it is still bothering me. Beating on the helpless and sick BAST&*$#!

I have to move on a bit it is really making me crazy.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 3:03 PM

LYNEEEEEE!!!
CHARLIE IS sooo BEAUTIFUL, JUST AS YOU IMAGINED HIM.
WHAT A BEAUTIFUL BABY. ALL THAT, AND NO STRETCH MARKS!
I AM SO HAPPY FOR YOU, HONEY. (Barbaro is enjoying all this immensely, don't ya think??)

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 3:03 PM

Renee,
Your comment to Lynne Brown about "neeked" horses is funny.... it reminds me of how when we were little and didn't quite understand how things worked.

One spring (I was about 6) my little Palomino mare started shedding her winter coat and it SCARED ME TO DEATH!!! I thought she was going BALD. I ran into the house with handfuls of her hair and was crying to my Mom that my horse was going bald!
My mother had to calm me down and explain to me about how horses lose their winter coats but they are replaced by their new "shiny" hair in time for Easter.

Just a funny little memory I have.

Posted by: Catherine Owen at January 31, 2008 3:04 PM

Catherine,
How is Timmie,has he taken a bite out of Huck aboom yet?

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 3:05 PM

###
Renee
I saw the video on the news last night about slaughter of our livestock Cows, it was pathetic. How can the USDA inspectors say that meat is safe to eat? It's greed for the all mighty dollar. Don’t trust the USDA!
I can only fight one battle at a time. ONE job at a time.
But The ones going to DC needs to take cattle prods with them, to use on our congress.

Posted by: Debbie L.A. at January 31, 2008 3:07 PM

Lyn: Hoping Illusion is OK...this weather doesn't help anything...

it is SO cold out there in Liverpool NY. My goofy totally-driven-to-hunt lurcher just deigned to come back in . She's been out there for at least a 1/2 hour, making sure that Mongol warriors or The Black Hand isn't slithering and sliming into our back yard....what a job.

I cannot believe what tolerance she has for the cold...

Have a great day, YOLE: call, call call. Tell The Leetle Aides The Tale of SB170...haha.

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 3:14 PM

Renee,
I would like to think that we took a couple of bites out of Huckleberry when he was here campaigning in South Carolina. He did end up third in SC and DID NOT win our County (Greenville). I like to think that we might have swayed a few votes away from him.

One fortunate thing about ole Huckleberry---it seems as if every time he opens his mouth he gets stupider, first it was horsemeat, then it was that whole Confederate flag issue (which anybody with a brain knows, you don't get that stirred up down here in the South if you can help it) and then there is the whole changing the Constitution thing. Of course you have to keep in mind, that this guy actually believed that God called him on his cell phone one time and spoke directly to him (2004 Governors Convention) and told him that George Bush was "chosen".

Timme is FAT and I mean FAT, and has just moved into a new pasture with a new friend, Star, a little filly I purchased a couple of months back and had been keeping her at my farrier's until I could get their new pasture fenced at my place.

Timmie says that if anyone has peppermints or carrots, or sugar cubes, or red licorice whips, or ice cream or doughnuts, or Capt'n Crunch, or apples, or well, just about anything along those lines, he will gladly take it off your hands! :)
Big horsey GRIN!

Posted by: Catherine Owen at January 31, 2008 3:16 PM

Debbie,
I can only fight one at a time myself but the other is in the front of my mind. The brutality that is used I can't even comprehend it. Maybe I was sheltered but Dear God. I wish I could take a bullbolt and a prod and use them with force just as they do in the SH and on to Washington.They would be scorching red hot when I use them, would make a branding iron look like ice.

I like Wayne P. from the Human Society, he is on top of all the brutality.

I know I am going off alot this morning...I am just so mad. Congress,is that a new planet?

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 3:20 PM

BLESS ALL OF YOU THAT LIVE UP NORTH. I don't know how you handle the cold. I live in South Carolina and have gotten spoiled rotten in the past 15 years or so. I freeze when it gets into the 40's and below 30, I bundle up like an Eskimo.

Bless all of you that are dealing with Mid-West and Northern snows, ice and COLD!!!!!! I am not that brave.

Posted by: Catherine Owen at January 31, 2008 3:21 PM

Who mentioned Barbaro bouncing on the clouds? Do YOLE remember how he used that damned sling like a
Baby Bouncer/Baby Jumper? He was so damned smart...

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 3:22 PM

jonna,
I did. Barbaro use to bounce and boing his heart out in the sling laughing. boing boing boing One of my favorite visuals. ROFL I needed to laugh.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 3:26 PM

##

Good Thursday Morning, ABR Famblee:)

I awoke this a.m., did my letting out of Murphy, got my coffee...got Murphy in, gave him is cheese and doggy biscuits...came in here to see what the 'happs' are here at ABR and Equine Heaven and of course checked e-mail first....

HOLY CROMOLY!!!!!! :):):):):):)

PICTURES OF CHARLIE!!!!! OMGOSH, FAMBLEE!!!!! HE'S JUST BEAUUUUUUUUUUTIFUL, ISN'T HEEEEEEEE?????

Now....PLEASE, my 'sisters in Barbaro'...he isn't JUST 'MY' HORSIE....he has ALOTSA MOMMYS...and as much as I would JUST LOVE to kiss his nose and make him 'NEEKED'....he will be living FAR/FAR/FAR/AWAY from me.....like 6HOURS far...:( so I won't be seeing him very often, if EVER:( and remember, he's got ALOTSA MOMMYS....:) BUT....*YES*!!!! :) I am ONE of his MOMMYS!!! And I'm BEYONNNNNNND HAPPY ABOUT THAT, FOR SURE:)

I SO hoped he would be dark bay/white....:) AND HE ISSSSSSSSSS:) I think he is ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL:) I cannot IMAGINE such a beautiful boy being sent to auction, Famblee:( and reading Aunty Cheryl's description of those auction yards in Chino, CA yesterday....I SHUDDER to think!!!

I am REALLY GONNA TRY VERY HARD to go see him sometime this summer....and OMGOODNESS....'don'tchajustknow'....I will be 'taking yole' along with me:)

GOD BLESS *CHARLIE*....GOD BLESS ALL HIS MOMMYS....GOD BLESS *BARBARO* FOR 'MAKING' ME OPEN THAT E-MAIL I FOUGHT SO HARD NOT TO OPEN...but when I read those words....how could I NOT try to help....????

PLEASE....write your letters, send your 'stinkin' faxes...make those calls peeples....we just GOTTA HELP THE HORSES....LOOK AT *CHARLIE* he would have ended up on someone's dinner plate in a foreign country....NOW:) HE'S GONNA LIVE IN NO. CA....AND HAVE HORSEY FRENS....AND NISSSSE PEEPLES TO LOVE HIM AND TAKE GOOD CARE OF HIM:) and from time to time....HIS MOMMYS WILLLLL VISIT:)

GOD! I'M SO GLAD I 'MET' BARBARO:)

Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in Ca

Posted by: Lynne Brown at January 31, 2008 3:30 PM


I received a notice from HSUS last night with the video of the slaughterhouse in CA, about the cattle. I was afraid to watch the video, but did so anyway with much trepidation. It was sickening and made my blood boil. To think that this is what they are feeding our children in the school lunch program in 35 or some odd states(inc. my own AL)? And they wonder where the E-coli and other diseases come from!

My gosh, it was heartwrenching to view. My daddy had caught me coming in and asked had I seen Katie Couric, and I had not. He told me about it, I was going to do a search, but read and saw the email notice first. I signed the petition and forwarded it on to others. I know that laws are passed about ALL downed livestock not being used, but wonder why it is not monitored more closely. Then again, it never was monitored at all, probably.

Sorry to rant. I was so upset and disconcerted by what I saw on the video. I knew I should not have watched it. I had nightmares all night. I have said my piece. I will hush for now.

Posted by: Dora J Crow Prayers for all creatures great and small at January 31, 2008 3:33 PM

My morning sign from Barbaro...I was doing the daily online crossword puzzle, and one of the clues was "Failure is not.."

and of course the answer is "AN OPTION!"

I hear you, Big Boss Horse!

Posted by: Nancy in CT at January 31, 2008 3:33 PM

####Jonna, I like your idea "cattle prod" that would make them sit up, but I'm still not sure if they would take notice, don't have much faith in alot of those representatives.

Yes, I remember Barbaro using the sling and bouncing around, I always thought of it as his jolly jumper and it would make me smile. Yes he was a very clever boy.

Catherine Owen, I am sure glad to see Huckabee (or whatever his name is) get his due. I didn't hear about all those antics that you mentioned on top of his eating horse remarks, just makes me shake my head in wonder and disbelief.

Renee, sounds like you'll be getting maybe the same storm, all kinds of good stuff coming our way. I'll think of Catherine basking in warmth.

Judy

Posted by: Judy Scott-Ont, Canada at January 31, 2008 3:36 PM

####
Please help the Georgia Dogs...please go to www.savinggeorgiadogs.org

very small donation...but your vote counts...please.

Posted by: joan roya at January 31, 2008 3:43 PM

Good Morning Gang.

####Renee - I am NOT coping at all with last nights' news. The cruelty I cannot comprehend. I had to stop eating beef years ago after what I saw my neighbor doing to his cattle. And I can see dairy products may, and probably will be, the next item scratched off the shopping list. God help us. These behaviors are getting worse. We all need to look at what the hell we are doing! ARGHHHH.

###And to lighten up a bit, get in that sling, Renee. Boing, boing, splat! Heal, ankle, heal.

Posted by: Margie at January 31, 2008 3:54 PM

Those are some good memories of Barbaro in his sling. He liked it. Played with it. We must be healing, to some extent, when the memories make us smile.

Posted by: Margie at January 31, 2008 3:59 PM

Dora,
Dear friend rant all you want.Don't ever hush. Those of us who saw it all feel the same. My mom had problems watching, and was praying. She said she never knew about it.

You go rant and rant Dora till it makes you feel good girl! ;)

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 4:01 PM

Margie,
Good morning....

This is how "wacky" I am I guess. One time I was dating a guy and things had been running along pretty smoothly until we ate at an Italian restaurant one night. He ordered veal. Now I grew up for part of my life out in West Texas on a cattle ranch and I know "how they go about getting that milk white veal". Those little baby calves are taken from their mommas at birth put into CAGES, fed only milk for a couple of weeks and then slaughtered for that "milk-white" veal.

I told him about that and he still insisted on ordering the veal, because "I just like it".

Know what I did?

I excused myself to go to the restroom, walked out the back door of the place, called a friend to give me a lift back to my house and left him sitting there waiting.

Ummmm....We never went out again.

Posted by: Catherine Owen at January 31, 2008 4:01 PM

((((Catherine)))) Giving up that guy. Yes. I can see that. I would do the same. :-D

Posted by: Margie at January 31, 2008 4:11 PM

Catherine,
He is still waiting for you to come back. HAHAHA

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 4:15 PM

##

Catherine...I won't eat veal, either:/ for the very same reasons!!! NEVER bought it, a nice Italian ladeee used to make Veal Scaloppini...then I found out 'how' the Veal is 'made'....OMG!! NEVER AGAIN....I was just 'horrified'...I liken it to the Nurse Mare Foals I learned about this time last year!!!OMG!

Alright, Famblee....I will be away all day today...I'll be missing yole!!! ALOTSA...see everyone much later on....have a GREAT DAY!!!

Lynne-Barbaro's Forever Friend in CA

Posted by: Lynne Brown at January 31, 2008 4:17 PM

### Catherine and Lynne

I don't eat veal either, for the same reasons, although there are some calves left with their mothers outside, but the meat is darker. I'm also off chicken unless I know it is free range. There are so many ethical questions that we don't address in our treatment of all animals.

Posted by: Liz (UK) at January 31, 2008 4:25 PM

The story gets funnier...

He CAME BY my house later that night and stood outside (because I wouldn't let him in the door) yelling that he had SAT THERE FOR OVER AN HOUR before he finally asked a waitress to go check the bathroom.

I yelled back at him that I couldn't help that he was STUPID! Then I turned out my dog I had at the time and she, being the loyal, protective soul she was over me, proceeded to chase him back into his car, biting at his ankle in the process and ripping his pant leg (she didn't get any skin). She then just sat by his car.

In his desperate attempt to get to his car, he dropped his car keys in the yard somewhere. I let my dog torture him for about half an hour then called her back into the house.

He tentatively got out of the car and started hunting for his keys, everytime he would hear a noise he would jump and head back for the car. I would click the door handle just to watch him.

He never found his keys that night and I guess he called a friend because somebody showed up later and they drove off together.

I then called the sherriff and told them I had an abandoned car in my driveway and asked them to tow it off.

Amazingly.... he never called me again.

Posted by: Catherine Owen at January 31, 2008 4:27 PM

YAY CATHERINE:
Yep: and for those who did not grow up on a cattle ranch, the little calf muffins also suffer from awful diarrhea from all that damned milk...lovely.
The thought of veal makes me queasy.

Like I said to Joan this A.m. this is going to make a vegetarian out of me eventually.

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 4:32 PM

Catherine, I like you more every day!

Posted by: Kathy In SC at January 31, 2008 4:33 PM

CATHERINE. THE STORY JUST GETS BETTER...I FEEL A SCREENPLAY COMING ON. (And your GOOD DOG...wonderful.)

Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I will be smirking about this all day long.

What a dolt that guy was.

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 4:35 PM

IF OUR COUNTRY OR WORLD FOR THAT MATTER CAN'T RESPECT BOTH ANIMALS (GOD'S PRECIOUS CREATIONS & GIFTS TO US ).. THEN YOU ARE NOT A HUMAN BEING ..HOW CAN PEOPLE BE SO CRUEL, NOT CARING... WE ARE ALL TO BE MADE IN THE EYES OF GOD. TO DO WHAT IS RIGHT.... .. SOME DAY THEY WILL HAVE TO ANSWER .... WE CAN JUST KEEP FIGHTING & NOT GIVE UP TO END HORSE SLAUGHTER, & ANIIMAL ABUSE.. CAN ANYONE IMAGINE WHAT THIS WOULD WOULD BE LIKE WITH OUT GOD'S GIFT'S TO US THE ANIMALS???? AND DON'T FORGET TO PRAY FOR OUR FALLEN ANGELS.& ALL OF THOSE IN NEED, BOTH HUMAN & ANIMIALS...... DIANE /PA

Posted by: diane at January 31, 2008 4:35 PM

P.S. WE SHOULD'T HAVE TO PLEA TO CONGRESS TO PASS A BILL FOR CRUELTY, & ANIMAL ABUSE, HORSE SLAUGHTER IS'S ALL WRONG.....
NO ANDS
IFS
& BUTS ABOUT IT... IT SHOULD BE A LAW NOW!!!!! DIANE/ PA

Posted by: diane at January 31, 2008 4:48 PM

#### Go Catherine! Go li'l doggie! hahahahahahaha.

Posted by: Margie at January 31, 2008 4:50 PM

Joanna,
I bet all of us could put together a book about "dating misadventures". It never ceases to amaze me what some guys "think". Ahhh but it isn't just guys, I know some women that are sort of crazy too.

Incidentally, that diarrehea you are talking about with those little calves is called scours and yes, it takes the hair and hide off their poor little bottoms.

I hope that former boyfriend has a permanent case of the scours.

Posted by: Catherine Owen at January 31, 2008 4:51 PM

Catherine,
Great story! It's great to have you here. Kisses to Timmie from Auntieeee Renee. Smoooooooooooochies!

Salad for lunch today for sure.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 4:52 PM

####
"I would click the door handle just to watch him."

OMG, Catherine, that is simply hilarious!

Thanks for the laugh - I needed it this morning.
(BTW, I haven't eaten veal since I found out the truth about why it's so "tender"...)

Glenda

Posted by: Glenda in NE PA at January 31, 2008 4:53 PM

Those poor angels.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 4:58 PM

hi all...

neat article...i'm back at work but wanted to send this to the group

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22539914/from/ET/

sorry can't blue ink... and also sorry if someone already posted this article.... i'm so busy at work now that i'm back today....

Lisa

Posted by: lisa weaver in mt. pleasant, sc at January 31, 2008 4:59 PM

#####
Harriette - I will respect your wishes........but I must tell you that I JUST KNOW that Barbaro is so very PROUD of you for sharing your many gifts with all of us. Thank you.

G.

Posted by: Glenda in NE PA at January 31, 2008 5:00 PM

#### I am visualizing the guy's bald heinie right now. And loving it.

Posted by: Margie at January 31, 2008 5:02 PM

###Catherine, what a hoot, thanks for sharing. I too will not eat Veal once I found out what torture they put those poor critters through.

Judy

Posted by: Judy Scott-Ont, Canada at January 31, 2008 5:07 PM

ROFLMAO

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 5:08 PM

I'm just saying.....

Maybe I should see if Sen. Craig would like to go out on a date with me?

I've become a lot craftier (and more wicked) in my "old age".

Posted by: Catherine Owen at January 31, 2008 5:17 PM

Lisa Weaver...
What a neat article. Thanks for the link!

Posted by: Catherine Owen at January 31, 2008 5:18 PM

Mon Dieu!! You are THAT Catherine of Timme & Catherine!!! Now I get it. You rock...and now, the Tale of the Idiot Boyfriend...it all makes sense to me now.

God on the cell phone----um, what kind of roving charges did HUCKLEWAND get on THAT call...that's just about obscene to me. To have the word GOD in that cretin's mouth?

Scours. Yes. One of the best treatments for Big D in dogs (barring other things like hitchhiking internal parasites) is Tylan powder, which my Vet used to use for Pig Scour...that stuff is awesome.

There is a tidy little spot in Hell picked out for candidate Huckabee... it seem to recall that it was nearby the KB condo.

I knew nothing of SC until this fall, when my family all went down to Edisto Island, in a cottage RIGHT ON THE OCEAN for 6 days. OMG: it was heaven...we swam till we were pruney, ate and ate low country food, I became a religious convert to Piggly Wiggly. I wanted to sleep over there, but my family wouldn't let me.....

But that ocean down there, dolphins, pelicans flying over the deck everyday at 3:30 for their
evening roosts in the National Park...the water so warm. We grew up learning how to swim in the Atlantic ocean, Pt. Pleasant, NJ, where we had a famblee place for many many years--losing it: now that is the saddest tale ever--but anyhow. That was frigid water, with very feisty rip tides and BIG waves....

Swimming off Edisto was like being in one of the Great Lakes. I loved it. Everything about it.

AH well: Catherine: glad to know you, and you lightened my heart this morning...I needed that so much. I thank you, the greyhounds thank you...
now I will crawl back to bed with my book and the GH. On top of the COLD, this slaughter world we are fighting sometimes just makes my teeth chatter from thinking of it. I cannot look at the cattle video.

The White Mare, well--she has claimed me for life. Sometimes I can look, sometimes I cannot. Today is a CANNOT DAY.

I do find it necessary to tell The Leetle Aides when I speak to them that horses are dying in CN and MX even as we speak. "RIGHT NOW," I say quietly. It seems to make them take pause.

OK: ttyl: courage, and take care, YOLE. j

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 5:21 PM

###Hay Glenda, answered your email but got it back..seems like your work email rejected it..but the error message looks tied into your old aol.com post box..???

## catherine, great story..those poor babies..I have never eaten veal...never will

Posted by: Harriette Brillianthawk at January 31, 2008 5:23 PM

####
DEE
ARE YOU WATCHING YOUR MAILBOX????

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 5:25 PM

http://forums.delphiforums.com/alexbrown/messages?msg=19475.1

extra Thurs 1/31 (and Wed 1/30) nat'l target list (HAHS)

w/b at the above DB thread asap. HAHS site confirmed they will be posting list from 1/30, also expecting 1/31 list, just not up yet.

Meanwhile - per ABR strategy - pls contact your own Senators and Representative (and complete any directions from your group leader) - and if you want to make some more calls to Senators you can attack the AWI/SAPL target list [linked at the DB thread above].

Stress the importance of getting S 311 / HR 503 to a vote.

Be sure to tell all your contacts about what almost happened in South Dakota - and spread that VEW white paper far and wide.

The link to the AWI/SAPL list - a good alternate target list of Senators, is ABR/DB message 15321.10 (linked at the DB thread above)

point being to tell these legislators (in addition to your own) about the SD development.

REASON TO EXPEDITE S 311 / HR 503.

Here's something to add to ALL your contacts please - and the 800 numbers for your convenience on all calls.

IMO - convey the website vetsforequinewelfare.org to all your contacts - to counteract the position of the 2 big vet ass'ns. Links to their two 2007 antislaughter releases and their recently-released Jan. 2008 WHITE PAPER are at the DB thread above.

If long distance charges are a problem, use these DC 800 numbers and ask for the legislators by name (or ask for extension, last 5 numbers of each legislator's office phone).

800-828-0498

800-459-1887

800-614-2803

tty later - running errands and keeping close to Pearl.

Posted by: C. Jaffe at January 31, 2008 5:25 PM

####
DEE
It should be full of rainbows by the end of this week....but not positive. Anyhow, sweet Dee: something to look forward to. I love secrets....

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 5:33 PM

### Jonna...aren't the beaches the best here? No waves to kill you like in Point Pleasant, no sudden drop off. The dolphins were the hook for me though...they let you come so close!

Can't watch the cattle video either. Fortunately, the told you it was coming on the news last night, and flipped the channel. The preview was not pleasant at all.

Posted by: Kathy In SC at January 31, 2008 5:36 PM

Joanna,

Glad you liked South Carolina. Yes, our coasts are really nice. I really love the ocean but I like the marshes we have too, so much wildlife in them. I am a birdwatcher and the endless variety of birds is incredible in the marshes. Not to mention snakes....

Piggly-Wiggly aka "The Pig" --- a Southern "landmark".
I'll never forget my first thought when I first heard somebody say "Run by the pig..." or "I went to the pig yesterday...."

I thought, "Boy these Southerners have some weird ways!"

Glad that my story lightened some hearts...

Now if I could just get that Senator Craig to go out on a date with me...

Posted by: Catherine Owen at January 31, 2008 5:40 PM

#####
Apparently one of the MAIN reasons I should have had children is that by now I would have grandchildren who could get my home email account straightened out for me!!!! AAARRRRGGGGG

Harriette - somehow your email got to me at work & I replied from here.

Jean, Judy & Avonda - forgot to bring email addys with me today. Duh. Will email you tomorrow from here at work to get info on the PMU foal teams. Thanks.

G.

Posted by: Glenda in NE PA at January 31, 2008 5:42 PM

"God's Wonders In Rainbows"

From God's Loving Heart
Beautiful Visions
Beautiful Creations
Painting The Skies With Angels And Rainbows
Divine Inspiration
Divine In Spirit
So So Visible
The Famblee Of So So So Beautiful Angels
God's Circle Of Love
Angel Barbaro
His Halo Is Glowing So So So Beautifully
All The Colors Of The Rainbow
Glowing Visions
Glowing Wonders
Sacred Prayers
The Rainbow Of Divine Signs
Insight.......Seeing......
Tuning In To God
The Highest Channel
Divinity
The Rainbow Of Divine Love
Angelic Hearts Here
Footprints In The Sand
The Horse In The Sea
The Sea Of Tranquility
Signs Of Beautiful Rainbows........

8........Halos.......Two Hearts........Connected
In Love......Barbaro's Rainbow Shining Above.....
....The Divine Light.......

Affirmed Rainbows......
Sacred Prayers.......
God's Wonders.......

Affirmed

Posted by: Dee Mirich at January 31, 2008 5:45 PM

Good morning, all -

Hope everyone is well. It's chilling down again on the Central Coast of California, and the clouds are moving back in... Oh, gee. Perhaps we'll get more rain!

### jonna - With all due respect, be careful of those Great Lakes. As one who grew up swimming in Lake Michigan, and who had the opportunity to swim off both Carolina coasts, I have to say that Michigan was a HELL of a lot colder than the Atlantic down south. Parenthetically, my dad was a merchant seaman, and sailed literally all over the world. The only time he was ever shipwrecked was on Lake Superior!

### Catherine Owen - I'm just guessing, based on your last name, that there's some Celt or Gael there. My husband always says, never mess with a determined Irishwoman! (And he should know!)

### All - the difficulties with factory farming are myriad. A good many novelists are beginning to disseminate information relatively painlessly in books, (see "A Good Year for Plums", for example), and now attention is being focused on all manner of hideous mistreatment of beasties. I am probably in the minority here, since I am not (YET) a vegetarian, far less a vegan. I grew up in Chicago, and was taken, at the age of eight, to tour the stockyards. Difficult, to say the least, and I would not do it to one of my kids.

However, my parents wanted us to know just what our convenience and comfort entailed, and thus be able to reasonably make choices regarding how much misery we, personally, were willing to inflict in the universe. It was a tough concept at eight, but the moral effort has stood me in good stead most of my life. My personal compromise is to purchase the meat we use from a farm where I KNOW the animals are treated humanely, allowed a "real" life, the word "veal" has never been spoken and the slaughter is, strange as it may seem, stress free. And yes, I have actually observed.

I fear that it will be almost impossible to break the grip of factory farming; it is simply too efficient, and very few of us are willing to give up a huge income differential for an ethical principle. After all, we are consistently reminded that people will not accept the minor cost of $250.00 - $300.00 to humanely dispose of a companion horse. So, it's not likely that folks will line up to give up a few hundred thousand dollars a year in order to give their "livestock" a life.

My mom and her sisters were so distressed by the factory farm phenomenon. They grew up on a subsistence farm in northern Wisconsin, and all the cows and pigs and chickens and working horses had names, my grandmother took care of them when they were ill, and their eventual deaths were as painless as they could be made. My grandfather hunted, but it was to feed his family, not to hang crap on the wall.

It's a strange and awful world, sometimes. But then, it is also a strange and wonderful world on other days.

I've rambled too long. Have a good day, all. Love and comfort to all in need, four-legged and two-legged, and have a Barbaro day, courage and kindness.

- Jean

Posted by: Jean Nolan at January 31, 2008 5:47 PM

Beautiful Barbaro -

Thought I saw you but it was the sun in my eyes ...

Posted by: Susan Hopkins at January 31, 2008 5:54 PM

Susan,
You did see him. :)

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 5:54 PM

### Glenda - good morning. My email is:
jcntripod@yahoo.com
have a good one, my friend.
- Jean

Posted by: Jean Nolan at January 31, 2008 5:55 PM

##
OMG!!
I'm reading books that I have bought for my students to borrow from my classroom. At all three of my schools, the students have to read a certain amount of books each grading period (The Accelerated Reading program). I found that not only at my one school where my students studied horses last year, but at my other two school sites, I have horse loving students that are not finding good horse books to read from the school library (or...had exhausted the offerings.....)
So....I have become best friends with Amazon! I'm reading "Shadow Horse" by Alison Hart about a girl (with TB experience)placed in a foster home for the first time. The foster placement is an animal rescue named Second Chance. The girl and the foster mom have just gone to an auction with $850 to spend, and the foster mom says, "The killer buyers are in full force today"

jan

Posted by: jan at January 31, 2008 5:59 PM

All, All Angelic Beautiful Glowing Rainbows To You Angel Jonna. I Love You So A Lot So. You Are In My Heart So A Lot So. Thinking Of You.

Affirmed

Posted by: Dee Mirich at January 31, 2008 6:01 PM

Jean Nolan,
Well, Owen is actually my married name now and my husband is Celtic and proud of it. I am actually somewhat a "mutt". I am 1/4 German (my grandfather's mother was from the old country) so I'm stubborn as all get out. My mother's mother has a good bit of Indian (Apache) blood and then I have Irish thrown in for good measure from my father's side.

So let's see, that would make me stubborn, determined, a little bit wild at times and I like to drink!

You brought up something else that I can't ever understand either. This whole "Huntin" thing. Okay, I can see if your family is hungry and that is what you have to do and you do it humanely. What I don't get is why you kill these animals, stuff them and/or mount their heads on plaques and hang them about your house?
I MEAN YOU ARE HANGING DEAD THINGS ON THE WALL.

You don't stuff your departed human relatives as they leave you and sit them about the house...

And why is there always so much beer involved in the process?

Which brings up a hilarious story about me dealing with some hunters when I first bought my farm a couple of years ago....but I will save that for another day.
I have to sign off and get some work done.

Love to all, and keep smiling no matter what (it confuses people).

Posted by: Catherine Owen at January 31, 2008 6:04 PM

### Catherine Owen - Ah, yes. You have no doubt seen lj's sign-off, "Smile: it'll give your face something to do!", which I just love. I agree. Generally, particularly in today's world, being pleasant gets people all confused!
We're Irish, French, English and Cree. We'd have a heck of a party if we got together!

Re: hunting/mounting. Well, yes. It's VERY weird. And my grandfather thought it ridiculous. They ate every bit of meat from the deer they killed, tanned the hides for lap robes, (this was you understand in the days of horses and buggies), and ground the antlers, if any, for garden use of some sort, if I recall correctly. He felt that you had no RIGHT to kill something for "sport", only for food and what he termed "appropriate use". And he believed in using EVERYTHING. Considering that we have wiped out the predators, and the deer herds are woefully bloated, I wouldn't object to legitimate hunting. But I have never comprehended the weird let's-get-drunk-and-shoot-stuff mentality...

Later - Jean

Posted by: Jean Nolan at January 31, 2008 6:21 PM

Here's what we fight. Another veterinarian suggesting sending horses to slaughter. This article is in the St. Paul Pioneer Press today. Here's an excerpt:

All the Dying Horses: Neglect cases soaring in Minnesota
Some owners are even forced to give their horses away.
Mary Walker, 70, whose farm is near Rice Lake, Wis., broke her neck eight years ago and now can only move with a walker. She was unable to care for her 52 horses, even with help from her husband, who works 11 hours a day on another job.
"Two years ago, I stopped eating meat so we could pay for hay," said Walker. "I live on pinto beans and things like that. I don't miss it."

When the cost of hay spiked last summer, several horses began to go hungry. A veterinarian raised the possibility of sending them to slaughter.

Instead, Walker spent weeks on the Internet and was able to give them away. Only seven remain, which they can care for, she said.
To her, starving horses or killing them for meat are both unthinkable.

For a veterinarian to even think of suggesting slaughter is irresponsible & immoral. These vets know darn well what horses are exposed to once they enter the slaughter conduit. The AVMA mentality is one of our horses' greatest enemies.We need to support VEW any way we can. When they release information, such as their White Paper, it needs to be sent to all our DC contacts.

Here's the link to the story:

http://www.twincities.com/localnews/ci_8123777?source=rv&nclick_check=1

Daryl

Posted by: Daryl Smoliak at January 31, 2008 6:38 PM

ANIMALS, AS PART OF GOD'S CREATION, HAVE RIGHTS WHICH MUST BE RESPECTED, IT BEHOOVES US ALWAYS TO BE SENSITIVE TO THEIR NEEDS & TO THE REALITY OF THEIR PAIN.
QUOTED BY DR. DONALD COGGAN/ARCHBISHIP OF CANTERBURY
DIANE/ PA

Posted by: diane at January 31, 2008 7:06 PM

P.S
Animals are God’s creatures. He surrounds them with his providential care. By their mere existence they bless him and give him glory. Thus men owe them kindness. We should recall the gentleness with which saints like St. Francis of Assisi or St. Philip Neri treated animals.
BARBARO IS REALLY GIVING GOD GLORY RUNNING HIS RACES IN HEAVEN.... DIANE/ PA

Posted by: diane at January 31, 2008 7:09 PM

Diane,
That is beautiful and true.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 7:10 PM

###Hello, anyone here?

Posted by: Judy Scott-Ont, Canada at January 31, 2008 8:19 PM

Extra Thursday 1/31 Nat'l Target List (HAHS)

FIRST THINGS FIRST

Stress the importance of getting S 311 / HR 503 to a vote.

Be sure to tell all your contacts about what almost happened in South Dakota - and spread that VEW white paper far and wide.

Tell these legislators (in addition to your own) about the SD development. REASON TO SUPPORT/ COSPONSOR/EXPEDITE S 311 / HR 503.

PREFACE/Heads-Up - per Daryl Smoliak's feedback/ request: Ask the Senators who may support (plan to vote for) S 311 but don't want to cosponsor, to send a brief "letter of support" to Senator Mary Landrieu, sponsor and promoter of the Bill.

Here's something to add to ALL your contacts please - and the 800 numbers for your convenience on all calls.

IMO - convey the website vetsforequinewelfare.org to all your contacts - to counteract the position of the 2 big vet ass'ns. Links to their two latest antislaughter releases and their recently-released WHITE PAPER are in the DB thread at the bottom of this Comment.

If long distance charges are a problem, use these DC 800 numbers and ask for the legislators by name (or ask for extension, last 5 numbers of each legislator's office phone).

800-828-0498

800-459-1887

800-614-2803

You know the drill - don't address this list until AFTER you have followed today's ABR Strategy and the instructions of your Group Leader (and if you don't have one, get one, or become one!) - contact our intrepid State Group co-ordinator, Stephanie Breaux sbreaux1@verizon.net

AND use the CURRENT/NEW Talking Points from ABR Strategy when contacting this extra HAHS list as well as when contacting the ABR daily lists of Senators: (NOTE SUGGESTION/CAVEAT FROM ABR STRATEGY, JUST BEFORE Prior HS History above the LIST OF REPRESENTATIVES below.)

1. Let [the legislators] know that two of the slaughter houses in this country are closed permanently [since January], and the third (Cavel) has lost their appeal and [is now also closed]. It is URGENT that we now get this legislation passed to STOP THE TRANSPORT of horses to Canada and Mexico. It's VERY important that you stress the cruel and inhumane way these horses are transported. Now is the time to focus on the fact that closing down our slaughter houses is NOT enough but that we must pass this FEDERAL legislation to stop the transport of American horses for slaughter.

2. Let your Senators know that we NEED them as co-sponsors for S311 to get this on the calendar and to the floor for a vote.

3. Tell your Congressman that we need their cosponsorship for HR503 to get this bill out of committee and to the floor for a vote.

4. Dispel the "unwanted" horse theory. Read John Holland's information for more talking points.

5. Closing of all three slaughter houses in the United States helps to reinforce our efforts. We can now dispel the idea that American jobs will be lost due to the end of slaughter. Only Mexico and Canada will now profit from OUR horses being slaughtered!! This is a very important point and one that you should all make when talking to your legislators.

Rhetorial Question Du Jour:

ANY EXTRA TIME/ENERGY/PASSION FOR THE HORSES?
Here is today's (Thursday 1/31/08) extra National Target List from HAHS (Humanity Against Horse Slaughter). These legislators are targeted by other groups on specific days, so our voices add to the impact.

Don't forget to mention S311 (Senators) & HR 503 (Representatives); ask them to cosponsor - and please use the Talking Points from the ABR Strategy (posted above), reasons why to support the end of horse slaughter and export for slaughter NOW.

Changed Circumstances call for a Fresh Look with an Open Mind. The closure of Cavel is a HUGE changed circumstance.

PLEASE NOTE: Per the ongoing ABR national strategy "...[I]t is important when you make your calls, you request they support and VOTE YES for ANY legislative measure that will ban horse slaughter and export for slaughter. In addition to the Daily Call List, please contact your own senators and representative with this message."

adding this CAVEAT from recent ABR Strategy:

"Remember…….these calls are to gain co-sponsors and support for HR503 and S311. As difficult as it is, please concentrate on the transport of the horses to slaughter more than the conditions in Mexico. We can’t let anyone who is not well informed come to the conclusion that it would be better to have the plants in this country because of the conditions in Mexico."

Prior HS History: All are new to the 110th Congress; no prior history re HR 503. (Their voting records on HR 249 this Congress are noted below; Y = Yes; N = No; NV = Not Voting.)

In addition to using the ABR Strategy spiel posted above - (IMO) -

THANK those who voted YES on HR 249 earlier this Congress; remind them that this protects ONLY wild equines, and we still need HR 503 for the rest of them and to end export.

Thursday 1/31 list - Representatives (be sure to mention HR 503)

ILLINOIS (2nd part)
Representative Phil Hare (Y on HR 249)
Fax: 202-225-5396 Phone: 202-225-5905
1118 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-1317

IOWA
Representative Bruce Braley (Y on HR 249)
Fax: 202-225-6666 Phone: 202-225-2911
1408 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-1501

Representative Dave Loebsack (Y on HR 249)
Fax: 202-226-0757 Phone: 202-225-6576
1513 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-1502

KANSAS
Representative Nancy Boyda (N HR 249)
Fax: 202-225-7986 Phone: 202-225-6601
1711 Longworth House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-1602

MICHIGAN
Representative Tim Walberg (N on HR 249)
ax: 202-225-6281 Phone: 202-225-6276
325 Cannon House Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20515-2207

IF you're done with the ABR Strategy list & State directions & the above list and STILL want to do more - you can go to ABR/DB messages 15321.10 (linked at the DB thread below) for a good alternate target list of Senators from AWI/ SAPL.

Please post at this DB thread

http://forums.delphiforums.com/alexbrown/messages?msg=19475.1

and/or here at ABR Comments if you have any further info about these legislators; and please post any feedback re your contacts today.

THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR THE HORSES! GO GET EM.

Do it for George and John and Barbaro
And all the ONEs we never got to know . . . .

STILL LIVING PROOF OF THE LIVING TRUTH

Hope Peace Love Music & RESPECT - CJ the craziest catlady (Blackie's Mother Forever & Shona's Aunt) in Hammond IN, f/k/a CJ of T Bar J (Elgin IL)

Posted by: C. Jaffe at January 31, 2008 8:21 PM

Hi Judy,
Big waves hello.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 8:22 PM

I had to post this official note from my rescue. Hans is a sweet big boy I just love him so much, he is a cuddly boy and likes to snuggle. Another one with beautiful eyes.

SCR's Card-A-Thon was a huge success!
The winner is HANS! Hans was kind enough to share his prize of bran mash with the rest of the barn, so everyone got a squishy, delicious treat. Thank you to everyone who sent a card in. Keep your pens and stamps handy though...Valentine's Day is just around the corner!

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 8:26 PM

###Hi Renee, I was wondering where everyone went.

Will you be having a Valentine's card a thon? I didn't get a chance for Christmas, would like to do something for Valentine's though.

Judy

Posted by: Judy Scott-Ont, Canada at January 31, 2008 8:32 PM

animals are created by the same loving hand of God which Created us.......
It is our duty to "Protect Them "
"TAKE CARE OF THEM"
" AND TO PROMOTE THEIR WELL-BEING " let's keep fighting for them.. & may GOD give all the FOB & THE FAMBLEE here & anyone else out there LISTENING "HIS BLESSINGS EACH DAY ..
THINKING OF YOU BARBARO, & ALL THE BIG & LITTLE GUYS UP THERE... diane

Posted by: diane at January 31, 2008 8:39 PM

#####
Crosspost from Mary L. on the MHR Hay Drive:

MR.BOXCAR ACTUALLY PICKED THE WINNERS!!!!!!!!!

We have Winners!! Please check your emails! Winners will be announced once I hear from them.

Here is what Shelley A sent me:

What an experience this was!! The staff gave me black bowls to put the papers in and they closed the office and came out for this! We took him outside in the sun (for better pictures) and laughed so hard. He was sticking his head in the bowls and not coming out with anything so they put vaseline on his noise and lip so one would stick!! We finally got the winners and then he ate the slips!!! They had so much fun with this. One of the girls had a really good camera and she will send her pics to me tonight. I got a few with my camera but I'm waiting to see the best ones.

Bottom line......Boxcar REALLY did pick the winners!!! By the way, he looks wonderful, no bandages anymore.


Ro & Brady


Posted by: Rosemarie at January 31, 2008 8:40 PM

Judy,
I just posted we will be having one. The Christmas cad a thon was great. I got to hang all their cards right in front of their stalls so they could look at them.

Those faces looking out of the stalls were so cute, I had to read to them ;);). The notes were sweet and every one that was from the FOB's just made me so proud and filled my heart..I would say to myself these are my frens! God please Bless them all and Thank you for bringing them into my life.

It is like a ghost ship here today. We all tired ourselves out this morning.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 8:40 PM

Steph spoke to Joe at TBFriends last night, he and the horses are ok, he has no internet and has had no phone and horrible weather. Praying he and the horses there get a break soon.

Great to see Wills Way at Old Friends, he was an awesome horse as a 3 year old at Gulfstream, got hurt and was never the same, good to see him retired there.

Posted by: Barb m in Florida at January 31, 2008 8:41 PM

The article that Daryl mentions above is quite good. It features Drew Fitzpatrick of the MN Hooved Animal Resuce. The MN FsOB are quite familiar with Drew as she is also heavily involved with taking injured TB's off the track at Canterbury Park and she will be part of the new Ferdinand fee type program that we hope is starting this year. We met with her and many others last summer at CP. LIke most of the people in Rescue, she gives 200 percent of herself to the horses.

There is quite a lively discussion on the message board for this article so if you have some time to write some comments, please do.

Posted by: Leslie in MN at January 31, 2008 8:46 PM

###Renee, I was getting worried there with no one posting for some time, you're probably right it's been a roller coaster week.

Will you post the names of the horses and where to send the cards, etc.

Thanks,

Judy

Posted by: Judy Scott-Ont, Canada at January 31, 2008 8:57 PM

### Judy...I am home sick...I was having a nap! There was a huge time gap between posts wasn't there!

Posted by: Kathy In SC at January 31, 2008 8:57 PM

Yawn: present but not rested. At least warmed up. Steffie wanted to go out in the horrible weather. Boxer is jealous of the fosters, so he had to go in and out. Loretta, well, she has her personal space. And if someone else is in it, oy the moaning and whining. So i read, got warm and got up and down....grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

So now I'm getting their dinner ready: I am their servant. As it should be...

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 9:06 PM

I'm still checking in, periodically today. Last nights' news did me in. It will take me a couple of days to recoup. And we never recoup 100%, do we? Next time we'll get a little angrier and madder than we did the previous time.

It just has to stop.

Alex, I am sorry your donuts were soggy. Ask him to bring bagels and cream cheese next time.

Posted by: Margie at January 31, 2008 9:06 PM

###Hi Kathy in SC, I'm sorry you're sick, never any fun. We have a lot of people here at work with bad colds, cross my fingers I've not caught it. Take care, have a nice hot toddy, good book and snuggles.

Margie, I know it's been hard to take, we just have to keep truckin and do what we can do.

Jonna, never a dull moment, huh? You're a good servant though.

Judy

Posted by: Judy Scott-Ont, Canada at January 31, 2008 9:13 PM

The names of the horses ar Second Chance Ranch are:

Andre or Bones
BB Gold
Bongo
Charlie
Jasper
Dolly
Granny Smith
Hans
Lemon
Pikzie
Maxx
Rocco * I broke my ankle bringing him food.
Sweet Pea
Madison

I miss them all so much.

The address for the Valentines Card a Thon is:

Second Chance Ranch
P.O. Box 452
East Longmeadow, MA 01028-0452

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 9:25 PM

Kathy in SC, Get better.

Jonna, We have to come back as our dogs.

Margie, Take a deep breath just relax (((((Margie))))

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 9:27 PM

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Catherine:
Catching up on posts that were entered while the dogs were tormenting me, and reading in backwards order:

...stuffed animals: my little niece was smart as a whip, and spent a lot of time with me when she was but a muffin (she's 25 now, a newly-wed, ahem)...we went to things like historical recreation museums...she'd see the deer pelts, horn tools, needles made of bone, etc etc, you get the idea. Utility. Not wasting any part of the animals. Saying a prayer for the soul of the animal, offering thanks. This is part of the Iroquois confederacy...the Onondagas.

SO ANYHOW> We were at an antique show together not too long after that visit. I loved to carry her everywhere; she was three-ish. All of a sudden her little girl's voice shrilled out. And she pointed at a stuffed and mounted deer head and said in a voice so full of anger and righteous indignity:
"WHO DID THAT!?"

Even as a little kid, she knew instinctively that this was waste, and wretched and wrong (imho) I had never said to her, "Faith, killing animals and mounting them on the wall is disgusting, feral and
disrespectful..."

I loved it. She's quite a young woman...(They live in NC)

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 9:29 PM

CATHERINE:
Senator Craig should only go on a date with you IF you have another appropriately fierce doggie to sic on his A**.

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 9:37 PM

#### Catherine will fix things up quite right with Craig. I'm vizualizing again.

((((Renee's ankle))))

Jonna, growing up near the Jersey Shore, we probably swam in the same areas. And ate some Fralinger's Salt Water Taffy too?! (It can be ordered online now). Childhood memories, sandy behinds and feet. Sun burned skin. Cranky parents as we kids screamed for amusement rides. But the beaches in NC and SC are far more beautiful.

Posted by: Margie at January 31, 2008 9:45 PM

Hay jonna,
Lets tie white plastic bags on Senator Craig's A set up a lure course make him run fast and let the greyhouds chase him....sorry needed to giggle.


Ankle thanks Margie.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 9:52 PM

##Renee, thank you for the list, I will get busy, something positive for a snowy weekend.
Take care and keep safe on that ankle in the coming storm. With any luck it won't be as bad as they are predicting.

##Jonna, as the saying goes "out of the mouths of babes", I'm glad she is compassionate.

(((Margie)))

Good night all, keep safe and warm.

Judy

Posted by: Judy Scott-Ont, Canada at January 31, 2008 9:52 PM

Judy,
You are so special, have a good night!

(((((((((((((JUDY)))))))))))))))

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 9:53 PM

### Renee...great visual w/the Senator! I am fine, just a big cold. I am feeling better after the nap.I may even have a shower!

### Margie...where did you grow up, if you don't mind me asking? Ahhh, salt water taffy...mmm...I used to work at Jenkinson's. They still made their own candy, but not taffy anymore.

Posted by: Kathy In SC at January 31, 2008 10:04 PM

Kathy in SC,

I need to come down your way and fix you a Barbarotini to make you feel better, so sorry you don't feel well.
I had something last week, something in my chest. I think its partly the nutty weather. One day its warm, the next its cold.... I have been "permanently" on Allegra since about last November.

Get well soon

Posted by: Catherine Owen at January 31, 2008 10:15 PM

Catherine...saw your recipe. That would help, or at least I wouldn't care! I am trying to revive enough to go to my son's ball game. He is a senior (sigh) and it is one of the last ones.

Posted by: Kathy In SC at January 31, 2008 10:19 PM

Good night everyone,
Have a good night.

Good night Sweet Spirit Barbaro, I love you!

Posted by: Renee Antaya at January 31, 2008 10:21 PM

I'm just saying.....

If I could get Senator Craig over to my house, I would make it a point to show him the spring-fed stream at the back of my farm. Now you have to go down a rather steep embankment to get to it and the rocks can be rather slick, ooohhh, ooohhh, be careful now..... I would hate that anything might be-"fall" you.

Oh now, look what you have done Senator, fallen down the embankment, well how do you think little old me can get you out? What? You say your leg might be broken? You disturbed a nest of yellow jackets on your way down?

Wow, sounds like you are in a tough spot. Well tell you what, I will just mosey back on up to the house and see if I can find a phone book. What? 9-1-1? Oh now come on, you know that we hicks down here in the South don't know of such a thing....

Tell you what Senator, I'll wander back to the house (well I do have to feed my horses first) and see what I can do. Of course now, if you will unblock that anti-slaughter bill I bet I could move somewhat faster.

Nope, you won't? Well then be careful of coyotes here Senator Craig, we do have some and a bear wandered into our little ole town not too long ago. Its getting dark out too and supposed to freeze tonight, I hope you are too uncomfortable.....

What's that? You might reconsider your block? Well now, let's talk about it.....

I'm just saying...........

Posted by: Catherine Owen at January 31, 2008 10:24 PM

Busy day at the office today. (LOL) Have not had time to read or post. Checking in so you know I'm alive. I will attempt to go back and read the posts.

I did get an email about horse tripping. I've heard of it, but never witnessed it. Apparently one of the Phoenix Councilmen (a WOMAN) is trying to do something about it.

It sounds awful. We'll try to see what needs to be done.

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at January 31, 2008 10:43 PM

### Catherine - LOLOL!

Posted by: Jean Nolan at January 31, 2008 10:44 PM

####
CATHERINE!!!!
YOU ARE SO VERY BAD.........yesssss, bear bait. Crunch, crunch, yum-yum little bears!!! Wait! We show him the Timothy Treadwell flic first....

####
Renee: YES to the lure coursing, except none of them thar coursing muzzles on the hounds...and let's just invite some Saluki and Irish Wolfhound groups along too, and then, when all is said and done, let's loose the Feist terriers and Jack Russells on him...

Perhaps he should be christened with a brisk rubdown of rabbit fur first...(live rabbits of course, they'll laugh while we do this, because it tickles the rabbits...but that's bunnies for you.)

####
Margie
Sending out healing thoughts for you. I'm a big advocate of watching those damned videos--but when I feel tough enough. I need to know what I'm talking about. BUT: I have not and will not watch this cattle slaughter tape. I have been whipsawed enough this week, and as I turn into a little old lady (well, maybe not LAYDEEEE) I know my limitations better than I used to.)

But here's a thought: sit down with some good comfort food tonight from 8-10 EST and try to figure out what the HELL is going on in the new LOST episode. I watched last night's review of the insanity, and had a total meltdown with the stupid crawl they ran beneath the video, explaining, or confusing what you were seeing with what ACTUALLY happened....you get my drift.

You'll also need a big ole pot of mashed potatoes slathered with real butter (what the hell) or a crock of mac and cheese (my persona favorites.
Ooo I forgot Lays kettle chips and Heluva Good sour creme/onion dip)

It'll be OK. We're all with you, girl...

(Damn, I'm starving now...)

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 10:49 PM

####
Barb:
Do NOT go there with horse tripping. Don't watch that stuff till you're feeling fierce with resolve and courage and strength. It's just miserable, terrible crap.

You don't IMHO need to see any more images of terrified horses in your head...

Most sincerely: j

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 10:53 PM

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jonna,

I don't/can't watch ANY of the videos EVER. Too much/too graphic for MOI.

I'd still like to do something if we can.

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at January 31, 2008 10:55 PM

####
Kathy SC
Our place is 145 Boardwalk...we called the Jenkison's enterprises The Big End and the Little End (The kiddie rides down by the inlet of course...)

Well, girl we could have some talks, huh...

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 10:56 PM

####
Barba
Amen to that. The whole rodeo scene is beyond words...men inflicting terror and injury on horses, calves, bulls...and then other people (families!)
PAYING TO WATCH. it's just so lovely. (A tribute to the soul of MAN>)

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 10:59 PM

Please keep praying for Erin.

Erin's blog

These are updated daily.


Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at January 31, 2008 11:05 PM

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at January 31, 2008 11:07 PM

Posted by: Debbie L.A. at January 31, 2008 11:14 PM

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LOL Debbie !

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at January 31, 2008 11:18 PM

###
Hi
Barb AZ.
Poor Joe 111 horses he must work all the time.

Posted by: Debbie L.A. at January 31, 2008 11:23 PM

####
I know. I have FIVE and I'm NEVER done picking up after them !

I can't imagine 111 to tend to !

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at January 31, 2008 11:24 PM

#######

Renee, I, too, saw last night's news with the story on the poor cows so mistreated and beaten with sticks, slipping on wet cement with broken legs just before slaughter. I thought about it all day today. I am not a vegetarian, but wish I was. It did say plant workers were charged with animal cruelty. These were dairy cows who basically give their whole lives producing milk and calves for the industry, only to meet their fate in such a horrible way. Very sad indeed.

Posted by: Jane at January 31, 2008 11:25 PM


WELCOME HOME JOE!! HOW WE MISSED YOU AND THE TB FRIENDS!!
**********************************************
Thursday, the last day of January, and thank goodness this month is over...
************************************************
Most of the houses in our area have been without phone lines for at least a week. Tom Hayes lives half a mile away, and Tom has not had a dial tone for 3 weeks. AT&T has finally fixed our phone lines, so here we are on the internet. Still slow as ever, and the AOL voice says You Got Mail. I will reply to everyone, but it just may take a few days.

It has been one week since I have written a morning journal, and my index finger is a bit rusty. Tomorrow I will return with soggy adventures of life with 111 horses on a flooded muddy ranch.

A big Thank You to Webmaster Max Wilcox for showing us his horses in Oklahoma. And for informing you of our internet woes.

Our tractor sank to the other side of earth. Starving horses are everywhere. But always there is a light to help find our way. I will tell you about 13 year old Selina, and how she rescued a starving mare in Elverta. And I will share with you dozens of amazing stories of others who help horses when they need it most. See ya tomorrow. The first day of a brand new month.

Joe

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 11:26 PM

Hi Everybody!!!

Just a quick check-in with my favourite people and then off to pickup Hans from work.

PLEASE....let us not get into the beef veal pigs goats slaughter industry???!! I have been on many blogs and pro-slaughter is always eager to label us the group who wants to end ALL SLAUGHTER !!!!
SO...let's not give them any ammunition!!! WE NEED to get OUR HORSE LEGISLATION PASSED!!!

DO NOT get side tracked!!! PLEASE DO NOT discuss anything but HORSE SLAUGHTER here !!!
I am sympathetic too but let's stick tenaciously to our topic for Barbaro and the horses!!!

Hope no one takes offense ....we cannot afford to lose !!! FAILURE IS NOT AN OPTION !!

Let's not give the enemy ammunition!!!!
They are monitoring our boards...

HUGS and love

Posted by: Maribel at January 31, 2008 11:36 PM

Hi Everyone, I popped in the other day and realized that this is where I want to be. I miss you guys. My husband has finally hung Barbaro's pictures up and he bought me a beautiful Barbaro clock from the Danbury Mint that I proudly display in my dining room. Looking at everything the other day reminded me of you guys and so I'm back if you'll have me.

As you know I love talking about my babies and I will try not to offend anyone and try to understand other's beliefs.

I'd like you all to know that Fantasy Lane as a group made all our phone calls the other day to squash that SD bill. We are continuing the fight on other fronts and hope to be a small part of putting the slaughter bill to rest once and for all.

Take care everyone, I'm back home for good.

Posted by: lorraine, staten island NY at January 31, 2008 11:36 PM

####
Lorraine, We're glad your back. It's a wonderful place.

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at January 31, 2008 11:42 PM

####
Lorraine
Click those heels three times and repeat, THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE HOME....(etc.) Welcome back. We need everybody, that's for sure!

Posted by: jonna at January 31, 2008 11:51 PM

##
Lorraine

WE MISSED YOU!!!!

(((((((((Lorraine)))))))))

Posted by: Maribel at January 31, 2008 11:58 PM

YEAH - Lorraine's home! Since she's the mother of my "boyfriend" Coby, does that mean she might be related to me in some way?

MARIBEL - you are right on target (imo) with your admonition to stay focused on our goal...we simply cannot tackle all the evils of the animal kingdom (especially not all at the same time)!

CALL, FAX, CALL and
PASS, BILL, PASS!

Nancy

Posted by: Nancy in CT at February 1, 2008 12:06 AM

Lorraine,

Who says you can't go home again? Welcome back. We are fam-a-lee!

Posted by: Karen in Las Vegas at February 1, 2008 12:23 AM

Maribel, I only mentioned the cows as loyal FOB Renee had posted it eariler. Forgive me for feeling for all animals, although I am certainly not for ending all slaughter, just perhaps making it more humane. I do eat meat. I was one of the FOB's praying for your hubby when sick. Of course ending horse slaughter is our objective and transporting across the borders illegal.

Posted by: Jane at February 1, 2008 12:25 AM

Good Night FOBs

What a week!! Well, it's not over yet, we still have tomorrow.

My prayers for all!!

Janice
A forever FOB

Posted by: jan from florida at February 1, 2008 12:38 AM

Lorraine,

I just love it that you are back! Yippee!!!
You are associated with a great group of people in Fantasy Lane. I can't wait to hear about your horses again. Hopefully, other FOB who popped in on the 29th will come back also.

Welcome home. (((Lorraine)))

Posted by: Patty in Dallas at February 1, 2008 12:55 AM

Let's not let Barbaro slip. Please keep him on top where he belongs.

Candles for Barbaro

Posted by: Barb AZ, Chunky and Punky at February 1, 2008 1:01 AM

EVERYONE!!!!

MR. BOXCAR PICKS WINNER OF THE MIRACLE HORSE RESCUE JANUARY HAY DRIVE!

Mr. Boxcar Picks Winner

Ro & Brady

Posted by: Rosemarie at February 1, 2008 1:04 AM

Hay, FOB's!

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Have been up and back from the ranch.Illusion seems better, nobody around to tell me what the vet said last night. I stayed with him for a while, communed with Shakkah (who kept telling me I have to "girlify" myself for the 2/16 chant session) and then the boys. Will be back up there on Monday.

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But it was the drive up to the ranch that floored me. I was cruising on 176 toward Reading and I looked in a tree on the other side of the highway and what I saw didn't immediately register with me...and a couple of seconds later I nearly stomped on the brake until I realized I was doing nearly 70 and to stop suddenly would not be the best thing. See, this winter here in Chester County has been...well, strange to say the least. There is little to no snow here (I know...can't last forever) and the temps are going to be in the upper 40's over the next couple of days. I am usually the first to get spring fever and drive everybody around me nuts with the countdown to the Spring Equinox. But I think Nature is trying to tell me something...that the spirit of renewal that Spring means for me may be...just MAY BE coming a little bit early this year.

For in this tree...

I saw my first robin of 2008.

Life is so darn good.

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Welc