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SHEILA, you posted this the other day:

"...They both came over for me to pet them and the pointer got mad at the lab when he got too close. The lab didn't take it well...and the end result is my pointer nursing his wounds... My biggest worry after tonight was them co-existing for the long term. We haven't had the lab too long, and the pointer is struggling with his place in the house with our new family member now here...A few scars will just add to his character, but I don't want to go through this again anytime soon! He's definitely stiff from his battle - getting around ok but not his usually bouncing self."

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Sheila, your posts about this incident brought back some ugly memories. This is kind of long, but you are wondering about them co-existing for the long term, so I want to share this with you, in case it helps. You are definitely wise in starting to speculate on the future outcome. Your situation might turn out very different from mine, but it's still worthwhile to tell you what I went through, and the advice I got from vets, which was definitely helpful, plus what I learned on my own.

I had a very similar situation in the mid-90s when I brought a male Am. Eskimo puppy,Toby (who is my eldest dog now)into my home, with an existing older male Am. Eskie, Grits (now deceased -- but not at the paws of Toby, thank God.) I also had a 3rd dog in the house -- a male Sheltie -- who was never involved in any fights w/ any of the Eskies.

At first, I kept the 2 Eskies separated (advice from an Eskie breeder, who told me that they never put a puppy in with an older Eskie until the puppy gets a little bigger). I could tell right away, the moment I brought Toby home that Grits wasn't too fond of him, and didn't really want anything to do with him. Thank goodness for the Sheltie, Fred, b/c Fred played with Toby. After a few wks., when I felt it was safe to put the 2 Eskies together, things were ok for the first year.

But when Toby hit that 1 year birthday...AND THOSE HORMONES KICKED IN...OMG!!...Toby & Grits started to fight. I never had an experience like this before, b/c Fred, the Sheltie, and Grits, the Eskie, had always gotten along.

I began to notice that what seemed to "trigger" the "arguments" and ensuing fights, was when they BOTH GOT TOO CLOSE TO ME. That was how the very first fight started. I was holding one-yr-old Toby on my lap, when Grits approached me, and I started petting him too. Before I knew what the hell happened...they got into it...right there in my lap! Somehow I managed to pull them apart, but they drew blood. This began to happen with more frequency.

My vet told me to get the younger dog (Toby) neutered b/c that would calm him down a lot. I consulted more than one vet, and they all agreed. IT DID HELP A GREAT DEAL, BUT I STILL HAD TO BE EXTRAORDINARILY VIGILANT FOR THE REST OF THEIR TIME TOGETHER, which turned out to be EIGHT years. Grits was 7 when I brought Toby into the mix, and Grits died when he was almost 15.

I learned NEVER to allow them to BE NEAR TO ME TOGETHER. I had to be careful also with their toys, for ex., if one looked interested in the other's toy, even though when I brought toys home, I always bought 3 of the same toy -- one for each dog -- but that still wasn't good enough b/c sometimes they wanted to go after the other dog's identical toy! So I learned to ACT IMMEDIATELY -- AS SOON AS I HEARD THAT TELL-TALE GROWL -- to get one dog out of the vicinity of the other asap, or to distract them in some way...like I'd say out loud, "WHO WANTS A COOKIE?" That would completely distract them from each other -- IF NOTHING HAD STARTED -- and then I'd give them all a dog biscuit. Because once either Grits or Toby growled at the other one...I knew I had only a nano second to distract them, or to scoop up Toby (lighter weight) before an attack could take place.

Once a fight broke out, I was by myself trying to pull them apart. Squirting or hosing them w/water never worked for me, as some dog books suggested. The dog books also suggest that if there are two people in the house (not my situation), that each person grab a tail to facilitate getting the dogs apart. I began to keep THICK, LONG, BARBECUE MITTENS in the kitchen that I could grab and put on me, with rubber bands around them, so they couldn't fall off of me easily, to protect my hands and fingers, b/c I kept getting bitten. They weren't trying to hurt ME...they were just trying to get at each other & I was in their way b/c I certainly wasn't going to let them fight to the death, which they would have done.

I really don't know how I always managed to pull them apart by myself, but I did...by pulling the younger,lighter Toby away from older, heavier Grits. But in the beginning, with Grits only 7 yrs old (young for a medium sized dog), it was very difficult b/c Grits was just as determined, strong, and ferocious as Toby was. Grits was still in his prime at 7 yrs. old, but Toby was faster and quicker.

As my older Grits aged even more, this was harder on him. They would go for months at a time each year without anything happening, but that's b/c I was SO VERY VIGILANT. But when it would happen, it began to be harder for Grits to deal with. One day in the yard (which was usually neutral territory...unlike inside the house), they both ran up to my wooden fence to bark at the new neighbor's Weimaraners next door. What happened though was that Grits and Toby got too close to each other, while barking at the dogs on the other side of the fence, and they wound up turning on each other! I don't even remember now where exactly Toby bit Grits, but Grits was much older when that fight broke out in the yard, and so Toby was able to knock him down flat on the ground (which never happened when Grits was younger), and really got the best of him. I had to call the Vet to the house that day b/c Grits didn't look good after I pulled them apart. (BTW, if there's a vet in your area with a mobile hospital, which my vet has, get acquainted with them and use them in an emergency, b/c they can do surgery, if need be, right there in your driveway, and it's so much easier on the dog and on you b/c you don't have to transport them!) The doc had to sedate Grits to stitch something...anyway, Grits almost died that day...he was so weak from the fight. As Grits got older, Toby began to leave him alone...sensing, I guess, that Grits was no longer a threat. But clearly, right off the bat, even when I first brought Toby home as a puppy, before those hormones kicked in, he kept trying to assert his status over Grits.

If you see more fights taking place, you might ask your vet if you should consider neutering/spaying the younger dog, if you have not already done so. As I mentioned above, it helped a great deal to neuter Toby, even though that wasn't the whole solution. But their co-existence would have been absolutely impossible after that first year, had I not neutered Toby.

As far as wound treatment, if not too serious, I think the best advice was given to you by C. Jaffe. I have used hydrogen peroxide almost exclusively; it is a WONDER product. (BTW, it is also a perfect stain remover for fabrics. It'll get ANYTHING out!) Depending on the wound, i.e., if it doesn't need to drain, I will also use a triple antibiotic ointment after cleaning with the hydrogen peroxide.

I hope things worked out for you when you finally got to the vet the next day. I haven't read all the posts. Your situation might not become as frequent or as bloody, since they're two different breeds. My two did live together for the most part peacefully, with the exception of a few times each year getting into those terrible fights. But it really drained both me and Grits when it happened, so I know that I will never be able to have two male Eskies again b/c I never want to have to live like that again. It was like "walking on eggshells" constantly. Good Luck!

Good morning, Barbaro! Good morning, fellow Fans!

Glad to hear the rain has moved out so you can get out to graze today. Be careful on that new splint, okay?

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Jo - I took a quick look at your page - Bill Bryson? I loved A Walk in the Woods! Reminded me of a friend whose husband and brother take off every Fall to walk part of the Appalachian Trail here in Maine! And that would be me with the Snickers bars!

All who are in need - human/equine/feline/canine/other - are in my prayers.

Alex - I have a question for FAQ - What is the process of sealing a track? I assume the purpose is to keep it from absorbing too much water but how is that accomplished? (Thanks for everything!)

Marg
Proud member, Fans of Barbaro

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ALEX, thank you for the update on Fondmort. It is a terrible situation for him what with the location of the fracture. I just wonder what Dr. Dean would do with him. I wonder if a sling could be used to alleviate all that pain and pressure. That poor boy. Let's hope he can get through and start the healing process.

Barbaro, thinking of you, as always. I hope it clears up today and you can go out, maybe doubles to make up for yesterday's horrid weather.

Good Thursday morning Alex, Bobby and fellow FsOB,

Thanks Alex for the Fondmort update. I'm afraid it doesn't sound good but will continue to pray that things turn around quickly.

I read the article on TB Times about the Ketucky Derby investing money in some Silicone Valley project although they didn't explain what it is. Darn - that isn't right. They're hesistant to install the polytrack - want to wait to see more results, but some other venture (probably to facilitate betting) will get done. I don't understand the horse racing industry's reluctance to recognize the downward trend and it's link to the breakdowns on the track. Frustrating!

Also frustrating - the Senate stall of S.1915. Please fellow fans - let's make those calls, faxes and emails today - we're running out of time.

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Loretta,

I had a similar problem with Norwegian Elkhouds. I can identify with your experience. I kept a big throw pillow on the sofa and at the first sign of trouble I would yell as loud as I could and start swinging that pillow. It didn't hurt them and yet got their attention. If another person was present, they would usually assist in the breakup but I used the pillow when alone. I hadn't thought of the "treats". I hated living like that and wished back then that I had known there are professional trainers who help deal with that issue. I'd rather spend the money that way than on Vet bills to repair the damage.

Janice
Proud to be a "fan of Barbaro"

ALEX -

Thank you for the update and hope Fondmort's condition will turn for the best. Sounds like the Vets and owners are trying all they can, for that my respects go to them.

Morphine, mmm...good stuff, don't kmow you're in pain, until you quit using it.

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JO (UK) - Would be it okay to use your daughter's painting on My Space? If not, I will remove it. It is good to see you posting.

Here are the lists for your convenience:

SENATORS TO FOCUS ON - Contact Information

COMMERCE, SCIENCE & TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE – SENATORS’ Contact Information

SENATORS – Contact Information (States A-I)

SENATORS – Contact Information (States K-M)

SENATORS – Contact Information (States N-S)

SENATORS – Contact Information (States T-W)

Good morning everyone.

I am just beginning to believe that Barbaro just mught have turned the corner, and I am just hoping Fondmort hangs on in there.

## Shelley in CA and Jo

I just found all sorts of things out about Fondmort, including that his name means 'good death' (I hope this is the case, but a long time in the future).Ther's a lovely site set up by some horse trainer in Germany and it has a nice piece on Fondmort and lots of other racehorses, some unfortunately no longer with us. It's
spontano

I'll try and get that other link to work later, Jo.

##D'Anne in NC

So sorry to hear about your son. I think you said how much you loved the ocean. I was down at the sea a couple of days ago and thought of you, it was so beautiful with the sun on the water like a shower of stars. I'll keep you in my thoughts.

Even though the Senators are not scheduled to meet until around 10:00 a.m., many have been known to arrive in their offices early around 6:00 a.m.

Like JANICE from Florida said, "WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME." Why don't we bombard them today?

Socorro

You have done such a wonderful job of putting lists together and making it so convenient for people to obtain the contact information they need. By comparison - the calls take such a short time. I probably left about 15 - 20 messages already this morning. On my drive home from work, I make more calls and talk to people.

We need NUMBERS of people to impress the Senators.

Janice
Proud to be a "fan of Barbaro"

Hiya, Bobbey! It's grey here this AM, but I am pleased to say that the halacious rains stopped. I hope that means you're having a sunny AM in PA. Wishing you good times in the meadow today, sweet prince. Is Ms. Mocha the Cow still at NBC? Does she still pine for you? Hugs, pets, & "scratches" from your pals in CT - Robyn, Brent, & Nikita

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GOOD MORNING ALL.
HOPE YOU ARE HAVING A GOOD REST BARBARO AND HOPE YOU GET TO GO OUT AND GRAZE ALOT BEFORE THE SNOW STARTS FALLING .KEEP GETTING WELL BIG GUY AS WE ALL LOVE YOU.
BETTY

Good Morning Handnsome! ACN, great news :)

Thanks Alex for the posts.

Everyone have a great day!

Ro & Brady

Morning barbaro. Glad you had ACN. We love you. Thanks Alex

Hi Big Guy. Hope you have a beautiful fall day. God bless you and continue the miracle he has begun. You listen to everybody at NBC and maybe you'll get some more red apples - your new favorite. I'm with you all the way.
-Love you,
Joanne in NJ

g'morning, y'all~

thank you Alex, for the positive update- hope you have a good morning.
Film Maker and Better Talk Now rather quickly became favorites of mine over the course of this summer.

Alex -
Thanks for letting us know how beautiful Barbaro is doing this morning.

I'll add Fondmort to my prayers.

I'll be sending more e-mails today to the senators. Thanks Socorro for helping us with the lists. It is greatly appreciated.

Good morning Barbaro,

I'm so happy you had ACN!

Believe in Barbaro

Thank you, Alex, for the Update. Barbaro, keep growing that hoof!!!

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Loretta, thank you for your insight about your experience with having two dogs that don't necessarily get along. I did have the younger one neutered - cannot imagine what I'd be dealing with if I hadn't. Since the incident, they seem to be getting along fine - they even played this morning, so I am hoping that it was an isolated event. Mickey's wound is healing well - and I did use peroxide on it in addition to antibiotic ointment. He is getting oral antibiotics also as a precaution. Thanks for the insight - I think that your suggestions about diverting their attention when they get competitive about my attention is good advice! And food is always a worthwhile diversion for them.

Really thinking of Fordmont. I hate that there is another beautiful horse in such distress, but respect that his people are trying to save him. Despite his condition, there must be a chance or they wouldn't be doing this to him. I really really hope he pulls through. Thanks Alex for letting us know the most recent update on him, and of course, on Barbaro.

Fondmort....not Fordmont. I'm dyslexic in the morning I guess.

Good morning, Starshine! So glad to hear you had ACN!

Good morning, all!

Haven't caught up with any posts in the last few days, but thank you, Alex, for your good news today about ACN! Maybe that new splint is giving Bobby a big appetite for red apples :)

I am glad they are going to rest Perfect Drift, and I hope he's OK. Hats off to Better Talk Now and Film Maker! Prayers for Fondmort and all FOB humans and animals in need of love, hope and healing today.

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This article does mention Barbaro, but isn't really about it him. It's written by Selena Roberts and ran in the New York Times and is title Brutality and Beauty Ride Tall in the Saddle. It deals with dealing with safety issues in horseracing.

There can be a visceral unease in witnessing a horse race when, by natural design, dashing thoroughbreds are carrying their hearts in a muscular cargo container aboard a supermodel?s legs.

What gives? Vulnerability. The gruesome broken legs ? and resulting euthanasia ? are often labeled as sad but inevitable outcomes of the sport, as seen when a fallen Pine Island was methodically removed from the track during the Breeders? Cup last weekend.

A bone had pierced the gifted filly?s skin. A lethal injection soon followed.

This is not an antiracing demonstration. My grandfather was a small-town cattleman in North Florida, so there were always plenty of ponies to brush. I had a youngster?s insatiable fondness for horses ? except the day I tried to ride bareback in a Barbara Stanwyck ?Big Valley? moment gone wrong. (Think tablecloth yanked from beneath dishes.)

On lots of farms in North Florida, horses were family, ridden hard but nurtured and protected. About 90 minutes south, in Ocala horse country, the vibe was different, more impersonal: horses were athletic property, acquired pieces pushed by a whip.

It?s odd how brutality and beauty can coexist, how the majesty of risk can elicit thrills, but this is horse racing. The sport is in decline ? and its relevance has plunged ? but the public can still form emotional attachments to a horse.

This connection is why fans held vigil for Barbaro. He received get-well cards written in crayon and a garden of flowers after his right hind leg shattered and dangled at an obtuse angle on a misstep at the Preakness.

He was sent baskets of spearmint and carrots, too. Dr. Margaret Goodman knows because she mails a goody bag to Barbaro every other week. If her name is familiar it is because Goodman was the most recognizable ringside doctor in boxing until she quit last winter.

She left disillusioned by the Nevada State Athletic Commission?s failure to implement safety measures to protect fighters who are vulnerable and voiceless, who have few advocates and no union. She sees disturbing parallels between the industry of boxing and horse racing.

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In an e-mail message sent to me Monday night, she said, ?What?s wrong with us,? if Barbaro is left as a fairy tale of survival instead of a cautionary tale to prompt change?

?I wanted to believe that horse racing, unlike boxing, was heeding the call to improve safety with more advanced and immediate care,? Goodman wrote, adding, ?I hoped that the racing establishment and the media covering it cared about safety, that injuries would decline and the image of great horses crossing the finish line and arriving in the winner?s circle with wreaths of flowers around their neck would be all that I would see again.

?That is, until this month?s Breeders? Cup.?

Another competitor crumpled. This time, it was Pine Island.

?ESPN told us that the network and racing community cared deeply about the tragedy but the show must go on,? Goodman wrote. ?I wanted to turn off the television. I felt that I was no better than racing for watching.?

But then her medical gene kicked in. And she thought about what could be healed and mended in the sport of horse racing.

?Each time a fighter loses his life, people say it?s part of the sport, that you have to accept these dangers if you love boxing,? Goodman explained. ?It?s unacceptable in boxing, and it?s unacceptable in horse racing. Last year, more horses were euthanized than ever before as a result of track injuries. Everyone cries and everyone is sorry, but few changes are made.?

She outlined a series of smart steps to improve safety standards in horse racing, including ?better recognition of undisclosed injuries and in-depth investigations, including post-mortems on each horse that requires euthanizing.?

She detailed the benefits of shortening races, raising the age a horse can compete and insisted on ?extensive oversight by the National Thoroughbred Racing Association with regard to egregious training methods.?

Goodman also argued for artificial dirt ? or Polytrack, a blend of recycled rubber, sand and pieces that look like carpet remnants.

Who could be opposed to better footing? Some thrifty track owners, for sure. But gamblers may scoff, too. How do you handicap one race on a Polytrack versus another on a dirt oval?

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Gamblers do have a voice. They are the financial feed of horse racing, but safety is a blue chip to the bottom line when it comes to product protection.

The National Football League gets it. The N.F.L. continually updates its penalties ? no spearing, no collaring ? to keep its stars on the field. The quarterback cash cows ? the Tom Bradys of the N.F.L. ? are practically Bubble Wrapped. The N.F.L. isn?t altruistic, just fiscally self-interested.

And as ESPN.com?s Pat Forde recently noted, Nascar finally put safety first when, after the death of Dale Earnhardt in 2001, officials adopted new health protections. Not every driver welcomed the more confining head-and-neck restraint devices ? basically a body harness ? but the contraptions have saved lives.

Concern is nothing new to horse racing. Are horses overloaded on painkillers? The debates go on. But when any vulnerable competitor doesn?t have an advocate, when any sporting industry fails at oversight, the sport itself can prove fragile. It can become boxing. Ask a ringside doctor.

Thanks, Alex, for the update on Barbaro, and also for the news about Film Maker and Better Talk Now. I was able to see the three Fair Hill horses - Round Pond, Film Maker, and Better Talk Now - in training when they were at Keeneland last month. I even got to meet and pet the wonderful Round Pond! Without this site, I would not have known about these great horses. Thanks so much!
Jannie

Good Morning All
Good news on Barbaro always makes my day!

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Sorry I've not been able to follow the posts the last couple of days, working. I know I'll never catch up now. Would someone be so kind as to tell me what happened to FONDMORT?

D'ANNE, Prayers for you and your son.

I hope you all are having a great day!
cindy a.

Thanks Alex for the update, glad the rain stopped for you.
Barbaro, you big beautiful boy, ACN always the best news of the day! Enjoy them apples!
Have a great day everyone.

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Cheryl in PA; Interesting article!!! Interesting analogy with Boxing. Though I would say that mabe part of boxing's problem is that it's participants are questionable, at the very least. I used to watch boxing, but after awhile it looked and felt like a total joke. Just like everything else, its all about money. I don't want horse racing to end up like that, though it already has.

GOOD MORNING HANDSOME!! ACN, the best way to start the day sweet prince! LOVE YOU B!!!

Prayers to all that need them.....

Let's get calling folks!!

BLB!!

Karen - TN

Good morning, Sunshine Barbaro...

Happy you are doing good..Keep it up...Stand straight, all fours equally on the ground and know you are loved by millions.

As for the anti-horse bill...we will get ur done.

Have a good day..

ACN, Sweet Prince! Rock on. My morning is complete.

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Interesting comments from this article:

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/15579165/

"There was a dramatic reduction in breakdowns at Turfway Park in Florence, which already has gone through a year of racing on the surface. There were three catastrophic accidents in which horses had to be euthanized; there were 24 in 2004.

But O'Neill doubts a tradition-heavy track like Churchill Downs will run the Kentucky Derby on anything but dirt in the near future.

Hall of Fame trainer D. Wayne Lukas disagreed, saying, "I'd take odds we'll have it here in three years. We need it everywhere.''

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Please CALL AND FAX. FOR THE HORSES!!!

Did anyone see the piece on Barbaro this morning on the early show? Please replay checked site nothing yet. Marilyn/ohio

Marilyn; No! What did they say?

They just started the Early Show here. It's only an hour, right?

Good Morning Alex and family

Bobbycakes...hope you don't have a tummyache from all those red apples....Grow hoof!!

Linda H , Skyler and Rosie...prayers to you!!
Also all the B'Dudies and furries out there that need support!

### Thank you all for your prayers for my son Bob!
As I told Skyler...I've had a year to calm down, I did not post it before ...Rosie's situation brought it back to memory at the moment and it slipped out. He has multiple myeloma (hits about 100 in 80,000 people) There are "maverick" scientists in TN that are working to find a cure but as you know it will be a long road until they find how to defeat these "voracious killers". His story is a nightmare...so I will spare everyone the details. But to answer someone who said they were surprised to find that I harbored this in my heart because I seem so happy... well......I love to joke and laugh and so I will be in the mix with Pammie, Dora, Cora, Renee, Lynda , Joan and all the others who love to jest around...it takes the sting out of life ...doesn't it??? Laughter is the best medicine!!! Love you guys...would rather be here with Alex and you all than anywhere. Since you came into my world...I really feel my life and attitude uplifted..Thanks!!

Good Morning Handsome! What a beautiful morning and a beautiful fallday for u to graze. I hope you slept well and are adjusting to your new cast well. Say hello to everyone at Bolton, Mr. and Mrs. Jackson. Michael Matz and Edgar Prado should he be there for a visit. Oh yes, and the people from Kennett Florist. Keep you deep in my heart. Many smooches and hugs.

Morning, Barbaro! Thank God for ACN! Hope you are dealing well with your new splint and getting out to graze on these warm fall days. Have a good day, hunny, with eats, treats and visitors galore!

God bless Barbaro, make his hoof grow, let him stand even, straight and tall.

God bless Linda H, Fondmort, BDude, Cahill, Sooner, Pine Island, Fleet Indian, Foggy, Felix, Darlin, Star, Opie, Gift, Avi, Pio, Dilly, BG, Lucky, Woody, Lola, Nala and all who need God's special care today.

Have a happy retirement, Film Maker!

Have a good day everyone!

Lynda, Don't know did get to see it. Let me know what they say about our boy. Thanks and God Bless Marilyn/ohio

Lynda, Sorry, I didn't get to see it. Marilyn/ohio

Marilyn; Oh ok. Well I dont know. Mabe it will be on the net. I dont know if I have missed it or not

Socorro - thanks for posting those very easy to use Senate links.

Lynda - I saw the piece but there was no new film of our boy with the splint. Just old footage with the cast. It showed Debbye Turner with Dr. Dean in his office not with Bobby because i was wondering if she would bring a treat this time.
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Loretta, thank you for the tip about hydrogen peroxide getting out fabric stains. It is a lot cheaper than Shout.

Hi Folks:

Please light candles for Bobby, Mike, Erin, Linda H, Bob, Rosie, Pine I, Fleet Indian, Color, Felix, Kitty, Lola, Foggy, the rescue horses, the unrescued horses going to the SH, and ALL our human and animal friends who need some extra help.

Thanks to Alex & Tim for the site and updates.

Please call/fax/email Senators - let's keep S. 1915 on their mind and out for a vote.

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Bdude is bright eyed and fluffy tailed this morning - thanks to everyone for the prayers and good wishes. I guess we're going to have some bad days mixed in with the good.

Steve & Bdude
FOB

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Steve, what is wrong with Bdude? Kidney's?

Last night, our local NBC Chicago news station ran an investigative report on horse slaughter. I don't see the video on the web site yet, but I'll watch for it and if it does appear, I'll post the link...

The report was very well done and hit all the main points that needed to be made. I would caution, however, they did show some slaughterhouse scenes, so if I post the link, I'll be sure to include a warning. I am absolutely unable to watch these scenes, so I turned my head and mostly just listened to the report, so I don't know how bad they were in relation to some of the websites that I've heard people talk about.

The report started out talking about Ferdinand and his sad fate. They talked a lot about the plant in DeKalb, IL and the guy who I thought was a vet, who said it was OK, was actually the plant manager of the killer plant, Jim (who I think one FOB talked to one time). He of course, tried to sell his point saying that horses are livestock, but the report really showed how wrong he is. They interviewed other people who talked about the cruelty, the foreign ownership, how scared the horses are, that's when they showed some SH scenes that I couldn't look at. They talked to T. Boone Pickens, who was of course, very strong in his oppostition. They talked about the violations at the plant, and the transportation issues, how they cram the horses on the double trailers and showed a guy with an electric prod to get them to move closer. They also talked about the MO accident and showed some of the scenes from there. My favorite part was at the end when the reporter asked the manager at the killer plant what would he do if the legislation passed to ban horse slaughter and he said "Well, I guess we'd just have to close down".

God help us see that day come real soon...

Chris: Oh ok. Thanks

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Why, on the NTRA site, when you try to watch a race, they only show you half the race and that's it?

Good Morning Barbaro Nation.

D'Anne,
I went back and read your post about your son. I am so sorry for you, my heart breaks. I am an only child too with no children.If you ever need to talk e-mail me at winddancer56@cox.net. Sending you big cyber >>>. Love ya!

Good Morning Handsome Boy,
The sun is shinning for you today. I slept well I hope you did. Have a great day be happy, graze and eat treats. Nip a few who don't expect it.;) Love you!

Sue W. - thank you and please keep us posted about the link. It just makes it all the more imperative that we end the slaughter no matter how long it takes.

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This is really waaaaaay off topic but I am so excited and proud today. As some of you guys know I am a huge figure skating fan. It has been a rough rough year for me because my two favorite athletes had career ending (Barbaro) and most likely eligible career ending (Michelle Kwan) injuries. Michelle had to withdraw from the Olympic games in Torino.

Well today at 4:00 pm Michelle will be named By Condoleeza Rica as a Public Diplomacy Ambassador for the United States. She is expected to travel widely in her mission to represent American values, especially to young people and sports enthusiasts. Michelle had hip surgery in late August and during her recovery has been enrolled at University in Denver studying Politcal Science. Earlier this spring at a White House lunch the Premier of China personally asked President Bush for her presence at their table. It is said that during the recieving line she was pulled aside and I believe this is when all of this started.

Needless to say, I am over the moon, I have been a huge fan of hers since she was 12, and she is the nicest, kindest, most hard working woman. I think she will make a fine representative for our Country.

Sorry to take up so much space, but I had to gush, after such a bad weekend , its nice to have good news this week on my two favorite athletes!

Good Morning Barbaro, Alex and all FOB~

So glad to hear you had ACN!! You are such a special horse....The Lord continues to keep you safe and watches over you and your caregivers.
Hope you get to go outside today....I bet you're stir-crazy. Wish I could give you a treat or a hug someday...Oh well, we can dream can't we??

Alex....It goes without saying you are just a one in a million guy, thank you for all you do!!

Take Care everyone, and try to contact as many Senators as you can.

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Sue W, thank you. Been waiting to hear from you.
And waiting for the video.
Wonder how meny people who seen the clip, didn't know horses were slaughtered for food!
Need to get the word out.

## D'Anne, I wish many good things for your son, and you. I will pray for God's blessings for him.with love and caring,

Prayers for all , human and animal , in need.

Congratulations to Better Talk Now, and Film Maker for brilliant careers.
Hopes and prayers for Fondmort and all our injured or sick horses.

Hi Linda H. , I hope you can come back to us soon. Heal quickly and well friend.

ACN you big red-apple eating boy. Blessings to you, and I will go now and call more to help save your friends.

###Laura
Not to mention that she is one of the greatest skaters in the USA and world!! Good for her!!

Alex,

Thanks for the Steve Haskins article I read it yesterday and was so glad to see Giacomo get a mention for his 4th place finish in the Breeders Cup. I always cheer for Giacomo because not many do. I feel Giacomo is a GREAT horse and the 2005 Kentucky Derby winner. His dad is Holy Bull after all!!

I still love Barbaro, but I feel something special for Giacomo too.

Leslie, IN

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Bobbie

Love your name ....I'm partial to Bobbies, Bob's, Bobby's and bArbaro's......:) Thanks for your concern...

I'm off to kick some Senators' butts!!!!

Sue W.

I can't look at any of the really graphic stuff either. All I'll do is sit up nights, crying, which helps no one. However, I am sharing the message of last night's report.

Since I did not receive a response from any of the Star Tribune people, I have written another letter to them. It's posted on the "Star Tribune contact....please" thread if any want to read it.

In this letter, I invited them to watch the report and told them they would see there is nothing humane about the process.

I'm afraid I got a bit wordy in this letter, but I'm hoping that, as responsible journalists, they will listen to us and let Daryl print his article.

We can, but try.

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D'Anne

I couldn't have said it better. FOB's have made a world of difference to my attitude and outlook as well. If you ever need to talk, just email. I'm always ready to listen.

I BELIEVE IN BARBARO

Good morning all:
Linnie H. in Mn. I got your post late last night. I will check that out this a.m. But the last 2 articles the Star Tribune printed were not good for our mission as neither contained facts and Tuesday's article put the focus on the horse racing industry for the slaughter issue. In addition, Mr. Jim Boyd, Deputy Editor, has sent mean, downright nasty & condescending remarks to FOBs which you can read on the discussion board under the Star Tribune headings. All we have asked for is equal time to set the record straight and we are treated by silence or attacks. And time is short as the senate reconvenes for a short session next week. An article by us gives good publicity. The Star Tribune owes this group so I'm not giving up. I am going to call senators today and the Star Tribune. I ask anyone reading this to do the same. Key contacts follow! Thanks everyone.
Daryl
Susan Albright - Editor of the Editorial Pages
612-673-4777 salbright@startribune.com
Jim Boyd - Deputy Editorial Page Editor
612-673-4470 jboyd@startribune.com
Will Tacy - Editor
612-673-7820 wtacy@startribune.com
Ken Riddick - VP of Interactive Media
612-673-4401 kriddick@startribune.com
The last 2 months I have been working on the horse slaughtering issue. Any task I undertake is for one reason: SAVE THE HORSES! I have put out over 2000 flyers, called key senators every day, recruited friends & family to do the same. I post this in response to Soccoro's note last night for people to list what they have been doing in hopes it would be motivation for others. Please, for the horses, call your senators relentlessly and contact the Star Tribune!

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Loretta,
Welcome back. It is so nice to hear from you again and read your posts.
-------------------Barbaro. I am so happy to hear about your ACN, I just love it! Praying for you my dear.
--------------------Good news about the elections at least for the sake of the horses, even though I am republican,I did what I had to do. Thinking while voting, on those 3 nasty plants. I hope this time we have a better chance. I also had the opportunity to talk to people about the issue at the polls and I was not surprised to find that the majority didn't have a clue of what is going on Let's keep on with the fight. It is now or never. I sent all these people to the TWR so they can get educated, they do all know about Barbaro and were asking for him.

Sue W
Let's HOPE many watched and were totally shocked by the horror of the situation. I, like you, cannot watch certain parts because it rips me up inside. I've a sensitive nature and the images are just too much. What I've read has affected me enough.

Good Morning Everyone

This morning begins the return of some of the senators. Mostly the LEADERS that have work to do before session begins on Monday. That would be people like Senator Frist who will be going over the issues that need to be put on the calendar. And, I imagine, committee heads who have to set their agenda.
As of now, the calendar is empty.
Let's make sure that S1915 is one of the things that fills in the blanks.

Keep in mind, the NEW senators that were elected on Tuesday have NOTHING to do with this yet. They can make no decisions for this session. We must stay on the original ones because they still have the voting power until the end of the year.

They will start to trickle in today but it's not mandatory to return until Monday. This is the time that we should get them to sign Senator Landrieu's letter.

You will hear many different things when calling the aides....don't get discouraged. They do not know what will be brought up yet and they are just opinions and guesses!!

As soon as I get any further official word, I will pass it on. In the meantime, please concentrate on the lists and on your own senators.
This is the assignment that was given to us and we must follow through. Mrs. Jackson asked us to make these calls so let's stay focused on the task at hand.

SENATORS TO FOCUS ON - Contact Information

Alex,

Thank you for keeping us posted on Fondmort. I am sure he is on many minds and hearts today. I pray he has vets who are as sensitive to pain as Barbaro's Dr. R is - that is the final frontier to allow healing, and if that can't be managed...

My fingers are crossed, and crossed again.

Barbaro, allow us another miracle.

COMMERCE, SCIENCE & TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE – SENATORS’ Contact Information

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D'ANNE,
I had never heard of multiple myeloma until about 9-10 yrs ago. Since then I've heard of several cases of it here in Louisiana. I know about 5 people who have it, must be more common than 100 in 80,000 here. I guess the area along the MS river in LA is not called cancer alley for nothing, kinda scary. My heart and prayers go out to you and your family. How old is your son? My husband's name is Bob, I'm partial to Bobs too! cindy a

Thank you Lord for ACN for our special Boy!

Liz,

I wondered if Fondmort's name did mean just that, "good death", and hoped I was wrong... However, if the name holds true, then yes - it should be years away. May this just be a hiccup in his obviously well loved life.

Way to go, Barbaro! Your continued grace and courage inspire us all. We hope and pray that your (fast-growing) new hoof will be both functional and lovely.

Alex, a million thanks to you for your updates. I hope you know how much we depend on your reports about the big boss horse--just imagine all the folks waiting for your keystrokes spinning through cyberspace every morning.

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D'Anne,

Bless you--please know that that you and your son are in our thoughts and prayers.

Mary in Iowa

Hey Tim's Real Lace is entered at Laurel Park in the 8th race at 3:37 pm!!! She is 5-1

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D'ANNE, you are SUCH a smart woman with your choice of skaters! LOL BTW I am keeping you and your family in my prayers. Stay strong, LIVE STRONGER!

Good day to all. Barbaro, good day to you! ACN, great to hear as always. Keep growing that hoof, one day at a time!
Thanks Alex, for ALL your updates and links. I'm still showing everyone I know Better Talk Now's myspace!

Go Barbaro Go!

Nancy in Va Beach :)

### Sue W. ,

thanks for that report about the story on NBC Chicago ! The word is really getting around a little now, at least it is starting to.

That is so encouraging to me that so many people are seeing and hearing about it.
Thanks, you made my day.

Thank you Alex for the Barbaro update. Everything seems in right order again. Early reports from Michael who heard from Dr. R. We are such creatures of habbit. Enjoy the warm day.
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It is beautiful here in NE Ohio, going to be near 70 and sunny today. The calm before the sleet storm predicted for Saturday. Gotta laugh.
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Sheila and Loretta
My friend's little female Jack Russell was practically ripped apart by her son's girlfriend's usually sedate brown lab on Saturday. The pictures of the JRT show many wounds to her hind quarters where the lab grabbed her and shook her in his mouth. The vet said if it would have been her head he grabbed, she would have been killed from the severe shaking and the wounds caused by it. The little Jack is just too full of herself. She thinks she can take on anything and this lab called her on it.

I have two female Jacks and was warned when I got the second one not to keep them together when they are alone and to NEVER get three female Jacks. Mine are fine alone. The only time they go at each other is if they are excited about something they see outside, like a cat or chipmunk. They begin barking at the critter then suddenly turn on each other and scrap. Nothing ever serious. The sounds they make are worse than the scrap fight is.

I just e-maild one of our TV stations and asked them if they would do research and do a story about HS.

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Hay ShelleyA & Everyone
I'm making my calls to the Senators from work with phone card in hand. I'll make sure my message is short and sweet, that I support S1915 and want it brought to the Senate floor for immediate vote.
Take Care & have a nice day.

Barbaro, another good update- hooray! How is your leg feeling now that the hard cast has been removed and replaced with a bandage? Are you adjusting? Remember, not too much weight on your left leg. We love you!

Daphne and Pee

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Thanks Socorro for posting the "easy to do" senator's call list. I simply print a new one each day just in case a name changes and in twenty minutes I am finished.

I add my two Ohio senators for good measure. DeWine's aide is always very accomodating and I add that DeWine has the opportunity to do some real humane work before he leaves office and then encourage the senator to move this bill and vote on it.

Has anyone else noticed any changes in attitude when you call????????

Please continue calling, faxing and emailing, use the voice mail after hours. Tomorrow is Friday already. Next week is a BIG WEEK. Days are dwindling for us. Even if you just call one person, it matters!!!!!

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Hi everyone,

Here is the Lola update, her bloodwork came back fine. So now the question is, do we take her to a neurologist or an orthopedic doctor...she still pulls her leg up lame, but only when she jumps up on something, so her symptoms have not gotten any better.

I am very grateful to you all for keeping her in your prayers and lighting candles for her!

Julie L.

PS--how wonderful that BDude is doing better today!

Way to go cathy potter!

I'm making mine with Socorro's lists in hand . . . so easy! Thanks Socorro.

Everyone, please keep the calling at max today. They need to hear from as many names as possible.

Let everybody know how you're doing, and if you need backup with someone.

ACN! How happy that makes me! Keep the healing big guy ! We love you and you are our hero. Horses need you to bring change. God bless!

Hey Everyone,
There are new pictures of Barbaro's leg. Dr. Richardson is an miracle worker for sure.

Barbaro, your leg looks BEAUTIFUL!!!!! WOW!!!!!

Our Sabina took the Pictures. Yea

Renee; Where are they at? they are not at tne Penn web site or at Sabina's web site. How in the world did she take pictures? Her back is better already?

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The list on the message board of the MO Mamas is looking really good. We are looking for multiple sponsors for the Missouri accident horses.

All you have to do is go to www.hsmo.com and click on horse heroes. Sponsor a horse for any amount or donate to the general fund. Email that it is from a Fan of Barbaro to honor the NBC staff at Christmas. The HSMO knows what we are doing and will be sending a letter that will be framed stating what the FOB's did for the New Bolton Center Staff for Christmas. I can't tell you how appreciative they are about the Christmas donations.

Once you donate, email me at jroe19@adelphia.net
with the horse's name you sponsored and your name and state as you want it on the card.

We now have 21 states represented. They are:
Florida, Ohio, Oklahoma, Illinois, Alabama, CT., Colorado, NE., Maine, Michigan, Washington, New York, New Orleans, Texas, Virginia, New Mexico, Missouri, California, S.C.,
PA., Maryland.

Let's see if the staff at New Bolton can be honored by all fifty states with horse sponsorships for Christmas.

Illinois FOBs have quite a group effort going...

We need and want multiple sponsorships for these pretty ponies. They deserve better than what they were headed to not so long ago. Some of them are still fighting to survive. Whatever you are able to donate is appreciated. Small donations added together produce great results!!!

Hi Lynda,
The pictures are on NBC's site. I just looked at them under Barbaro's pictures. They are beautiful!

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Rosemary:

21 states, but ILLINOIS is kicking butt!!!! LOLOL

I BELIEVE IN BARBARO

Lynda,
They are the radiographs of his leg. New and old ones.

Rosemary - I just had my employer cut a check for the MO horses! My boss has a good heart. I will ask him if he wants to pick a particular horse; otherwise I will do the honors.

Re: your friends jack terrier - my lab is also a chocolate. They are so good natured for the most part, but when they decide to be mean, boy can they go at it. My pointer also thinks he is full of himself and hasn't learned his lesson yet. I hope the terrier is going to be ok.

Barbaro, way to go with acn. Music to my ears!

HELLO ALL,
HERE'S THE LINK TO THE NBC5 CHICAGO'S HORSE SLAUGHTER FEATURE THAT THEY RAN LAST NIGHT.

http://www.nbc5.com/video/10280807/index.html

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Renee; The most recent pictures that I see are the XRays. They are from Nov 7th. I don't see anything more recent than that.

h gosh, *sigh*. WE ALREADY KNOW about the radiographs.

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Sheila,
Please extend a huge heartfelt thanks to your boss. What a generous heart!!!

The Jack will be OK but has many stitches. She had Xrays and internally she seems fine, except for bruising and then the stitches wounds. Looks like she encountered a very mean badger rather than a brown lab.

Debra; Nothing that NBC has on any of its pages works with my computer. I don't know why. I can't get any of their videos at all. I am fortunate I get to read the stories.

Morning Big Guy, Alex and fellow FOB's.
Prayers to all
Enjoy your day!!

xoxox - B !!!!

Good morning, Barbaro Jackson! Sure hope you have a great day!! Hope you get some bright red, delicious apples to munch on!

Was great to read about Better Talk Now and Film Maker this morning. They definately deserve more press for their wonderful careers. Graham Motion is a fine trainer, isn't he? He should get more press, too!!

Have a lovely day, all FOB's. Our Bobby J. just keeps on keepin on!!

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Renee,
You had me all over the NBC site. The radiographs are the latest. They weren't taken by Sabina. (It says she took pictures unless otherwise noted) I think technicians take those pictures.

Now you have to find us real pictures of Barbaro in his new splint and post us when you find them.LOL

Debra WI,
I know what I would do to them with those pods and other thing they use. I couldn't look. I did once and never again. Sweet innocent helpless lives.

Lynda,
This is the first time I have seen the radiographs from the 7th.

Rosemary,
I'm on my way to take my own pictures. I will kiss him for you.I have a new speedo for him.

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Thanks everyone for your prayers for Rosie, they are apprciated by her mom, dad and her and everyone who loves her. D'Anne, I will include your son in my prayers, you are so strong and I hope that my friend can have the same strength as you. They are seeking a second opinion on treatment, etc.

Rosie loves horses and I know that she would love nothing more than for all of us to continue making every possible contact we can with the senators. I am doing that today, in honor of her, D'Anne's son, Linda, and all of us that have loved ones ill.

We are so running out of time. This effort is the one thing that is keeping me focused today. We absolutely have to continue on course, it is so vital right now.

Love you all.

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Renee
Off Topic = #### Please follow that..

Thank you

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Renee - here we go again...

Sue W,

Thanks for the review on the SH investigative report. I just called my local NBC affliate in Dallas to see if they will pick up the story and connect it to the 2 local ones. Did they mention S1915 at all?

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mattie,
I FORGOT! geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez Do you make mistakes mattie?

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Chris Byers:

BDude was diagnosed with kidney failure about five years ago. He does not tolerate taking fluids so we've been managing him through diet. This is the first bad day he's had in a few weeks but he's bounced back again. He has also had several strokes from which he has recovered although he walks a little sideways and has a permanently dilated pupil in one eye. He was almost gone about a month ago but prayers kept him going. Today he's almost normal. Thanks for asking.

Steve & BDude

Hi Kathy J,
We have fun, and then there is always one to try to ruin it, they loose though.

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Hi Skyler, Co-mom
My thoughts are with you.

Sue W
Thanks for the link to the NBC Chicago slaughter video. It will be an eye-opener for many people!

Patty
The video did mention the "pending" Senate bill (not by number), and unfortunately did not discuss the urgency, or the need for the public to call Senator Frist.

It also left unanswered the question of what will happen to all the horses if they are not slaughtered.

So the story could have been better in a couple of respects, and maybe you can work with your Texas affiliates in closing these gaps. Thanks for trying to get this shown in Texas!

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Renee
No worries here. I could care less how you post I read em all regardless. I especially love your humor. It brightens my day.
How about we all concentrate on calling the Senators.

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Renee,

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!! I can see you lurking around Barbaro's stall, waiting for the money shot. You know Barbaro is a big celebrity now!!

Everyone

If you want to block caller ID on an outgoing call (so your ID info does not appear on the callee's phone), you can do this by entering a code prior to making each individual call. For my phone company, this is *67, which I enter before the one, area code, and phone number. You can call Information to find out what code your phone company uses.

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Shelley,

Regarding Fondmort's name - as you said, in french "mort" means death but "fond" in french means bottom or deep. It is an unsual name for a racehorse. I wonder if it is an old family name?

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Also, does anyone know what happened to Mary S. She is missing.....?

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cathy,
You are wonderful! Some people have nothing better to do with them selves...how sad. I made my calls, faxed. Now I'm redy.

We all have fun, it keeps the world from becoming a dull place.:) :) :) :) :) :):)

Precious Barbaro - It's a new day and the sun is shining - I hope you are preparing to go outside and graze. Beautiful boy, perfect one, brave one, UNDEFEATED CHAMPION. Keep eating your carrots and nice red apples. Your hoof is growing in firmly and steadily, your bones are healing strong and straight. Yes! Lots of prayers and dearest love to you always, always. XXXXs & 0000s

Prayers for Fondmort that he is comfortable and that the healing process is already in progress. May he be able to eat and enjoy nourishing food and feel loved and contented.

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Hi Renee, CT's other Mommy. Love you :)

Goodness, you people are my rock here, all of you.

Have to get back to e-mailing, faxing. I'm way behind at work and multi-tasking work with senate stuff. I'm a good juggler.

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Rosemary he may be a big celebrity but he is a big big boy. He may catch me lurking and nip me, he just has no idea I nip back.

WARNING....THIS IS VERY GRAPHIC. Some of you might want to listen and not look at it!!

http://www.nbc5.com/video/10280807/index.html

Thanks for everything, Alex! You're the best!
Daryl

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Skyler
YOUR ROCK
Keep juggling away. I'm the Queen of multi-tasking in my office. Real Estate files in one hand & Senate stuff in the other. My FAX machine sits right behind. I'm hoping since my company is huge no one's paying attention to the FAX calls. oooooppppppssss......sorry

Shelly A,
That is a tough one I looked away.

How is Alibi?

Skyler - Read about Rosie and am so sorry that your best friend has such sorrow in her life... Children have such innocence, like animals, and it hurts so when they suffer.

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Oh excuse me, I forgot if you are not part of the "groupies" here, you get rude comments and run off the board.

Well I will do that for you, Just that it has been asked NUMBEROUS times if you talk off topic to use #### Or take the chatter to the forum. I come to look for useful information and know that if I see the### I can scroll on by..

So have fun and it is a shame that new people can not be welcomed and ignored or other. I did put that nicely and not rudely (as your comment and your friend was), and did say Thank you..

geezzz.. talk about "chilly"

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Bonnie MacRaith,

I miss Mary S. and her words AND wisdom.

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Cathy P, You rock too!!!! Alot of us could start new careers as juggling, multi-tasking consultants! We'll make so much money that we can all have these hugh farms where all our new horses (the ones saved from the slaughterhouses that will have closed down), will live and run and play.

Anita, MA, and all of you, thanks for the thoughts. I'm passing all of these on to Rosie's mom. All of you have been so great.

Back to faxing, emailing for Rose.

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This is really neat. I just found out how to view the panda cub in national zoo by web cam. He is precious!
http://nationalzoo.si.edu/animals/webcams/

mattie,
I am part of this group, maybe you will never be.
I made a mistake and I don't appreciate you telling me what to do. It was not said nicely.
NOW I will not stoop to your level. I am here for a reason. Not to fight with you or anybody.
Don't condem me for my actions either.
You can continue this all by yourself I will NOT participate! I respect Alex to much for that and everyone here on this board.

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Sheesh, there are people crawling everywhere in my office. I'm having to go to the fax machine in a raincoat and sunglasses again. Shhhhhh don't tell anyone.

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Skyler
Dreams do come true.
Prayers to Rosie and her Mom.

Shelley, I have not clicked on it yet beacause i am at work and also trying to get the Senators called. How graphic - what do they show and is there audio?

The other day I said I was having trouble with
the links that were posted, I went to yahoo and entered them there. It works great I had trouble getting all stories from google. ????????

HELLO BARBARO NATION AND FAMILY ...

First thing I did this morning was to send out a bunch of emails to "the" senators ... let's make contacting them today one of our first priorities ... it's important and necessary!
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Thanks, Alex, for another ACN for our Dear Annointed One who just keeps "Living the Miracle of Barbaro!" God Bless you, Bobby!!
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If you're reading here LINDA H ...

Hope you're feeling better each and every day, dear friend and that you are leaps closer to full recovery, one step at a time. Sending you thoughts, prayers, friendship and much love!
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Prayers and Good Thoughts for little Rosie, D'Anne, Bob and everyone who needs our caring right now, including all of the beloved horses, animals and other pets who are 'under the weather'. Love to Pine Island and Fleet Indian, especially at this time.
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It's a gorgeous, clear, sunny, crisp day here in South Florida, and I am going to take advantage of it this afternoon for awhile ...

Hope everyone is having a very good day today and keep those calls, faxes and emails going into Washington, DC ...

Kathy J,
Get a super soaker to go with the coat and sun glasses. I want a picture. hehe

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Skylar, more prayers for Rosie today.

Steve - so happy Bdude is himself today. Sadly we all have good days and bad days. It's great he has you on the bad ones!

Alex you are going to be a Star before this is all over!!! Congrats on your interviews! Either way, you're our SuperStar!!

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I've said it once and I'll say it again,
amidst all the sad news that we all hear here daily, I welcome the good humor as well. That's what keeps me going. That is what helps me focus on S1915. The BAN ON SLAUGHTER is NUMBER 1 PRIORITY. It's not about us, it's about the horses.
OK.....back to my calls.

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Renee - oh I'll need another towel for that. Barbaro can I borrow yours??

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Cheryl PA...sounds like Ms. Roberts & Dr. Goodman are on our side.
Do you have a link? I'm sure some of the FOB would like to contact Ms. Roberts.

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Alex, I've always had a soft spot for Giacomo. Don't know why. Maybe it's his tail?!?!? It is a very pretty tail, after all. He just seems to be a really OK kind of 'guy'.

Chris
It is not the MOST graphic. I never watch the really graphic stuff on purpose, but I have gotten an accidental glimpse now and then, and this was not as bad as some of the stuff I've accidentally glimpsed. It is more suitable-for-evening-news graphic. More like, struggling, frightened horses evading the bolt.

Hope that helps you decide whether to watch it.

I agree, it is nice to see light stuff here as well as the very serious issues we deal with all day long. The #### was originally not really intended to mark Barbaro-related humor, but more for off-topic humor and personal notes. So this is why sometimes people do not #### for Barbaro-related humor.

Alex,

You are giving Barbaro some compitition. You are our Celebrity! Better Talk Now is so good looking.

Cheers

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Margie, I'm a Giacomo fan too. Sometimes I don't feel he get's the glory (press) he deserves. He tries so hard everytime he runs.

ShelleyA & Marilyn and others

Thank you for the warnings and helpful information re: the slaughter link. I know I can't watch or listen. All the same, I am completely driven and committed to the closure of the S.H.'s. If making calls/faxes/emails to Senators can help do it, I'll keep calling, faxing, emailing. I know the Senators are returning to D.C. and want them to be overwhelmed with numbers of supporters of S.1915.

Janice

Proud to be a "fan of Barbaro"

ALEX: IT'S A GOOD THING THAT YOU ARE SUCH A HANDSOM DEVIL! NOW THAT YOU ARE A STAR! DON'T BE JUMPING ON ANY COUCHES!

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Kathy J - that's it too, about Giacomo - an unsung hero. I just like to look at him (and listen to Sting songs at the same time). : )

HI YA BARBARO!
ACN is great to hear! You still remain our undefeated Champion and "Our" horse of the year! Keep being strong "B"...you've come sooooo far. Day by day big guy, day by day.
Wishing you a pain free day and some sunshine on your back. You're in our thoughts and prayers 24/7. God Bless and God Speed.

ALEX,
Thanks for the heads up on the segment on WGAL. I can't wait to see it!
My precious "PERFECT DRIFT" WILL BE IN MY PRAYERS AS WELL. I just love that horse.
Thanks for the article and for all you do Alex.
Have a great day!
God Bless

Debra, WI

Alex,
If you do decide to jump on couches,please dismount first.

If you don't want the tallies to log you in, calling over and over again, see my suggestion at 4:51 pm.

Okay, off to do my calls!

Alex
How fortunate that you were picked for the anti-slaughter interview. We won so many points by having you be the spokesperson. Thank you so much. Can you run a link here, so we can all watch,too?

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Renee, do they have 'couch saddles'?? Lol!

I just talked to Scott at Senator Ensign's office. Interestingly, when he found out I am from California, he urged me to call Senators Boxer and Feinstein -- even though they are both very much on board. I guess he just wants us to keep reminding our own senators to push for this. This is consistent with what Shelley has asked us to do, also.

WE'RE DOWN TO THE WIRE!!

ONLY NINE DAYS LEFT BEFORE THE SENATE BREAKS and may be the last time they meet this year.

Here is something that might be interesting:

Day 9 (Today): Call the focus group, call your senators, and call ONE additional Senator of your choice (from the Committee, your birth state, or your dream state. LOL.)

Day 8: Call the focus group, call your senators, and call TWO additional Senators of your choice

Day 7: Call the focus group, call your Senators, and call THREE additional Senators of your choice

Day 6: Call the focus group, Call your Senators, and call FOUR additional Senators of your choice

Day 5: etc.

Day 4: etc.

Day 3: etc.

Day 2: etc.

Post the reason why you chose that State and any responses so that people from those States you chose can reply to you. This will allow you to get to know others from the States you chose and work as a team. Many of you say you feel left out, this is your opportunity.

We can all have fun and at the same time help the horses.

WE'RE DOWN TO THE WIRE!!

ONLY NINE DAYS LEFT BEFORE THE SENATE BREAKS and may be the last time they meet this year.

Here is something that might be interesting:

Day 9 (Today): Call the focus group, call your senators, and call ONE additional Senator of your choice (from the Committee, your birth state, or your dream state. LOL.)

Day 8: Call the focus group, call your senators, and call TWO additional Senators of your choice

Day 7: Call the focus group, call your Senators, and call THREE additional Senators of your choice

Day 6: Call the focus group, Call your Senators, and call FOUR additional Senators of your choice

Day 5: etc.

Day 4: etc.

Day 3: etc.

Day 2: etc.

Post the reason why you chose that State and any responses so that people from those States you chose can reply to you. This will allow you to get to know others from the States you chose and work as a team. Many of you say you feel left out, this is your opportunity.

We can all have fun and at the same time help the horses.

Sorry about that.

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Laura KW...thank you for the news on Michelle...to her fans here in our family, she has always been the best represenative of figure skating...we KNOW she'll be the best for the USA.

PLEASE, PLEASE, EVERYBODY - keeps those calls and faxes flowing - some of the Senators are actually back in DC already, and we have very little time because this session will be quite short before they break for a LONG holiday recess!

No matter how you feel about the outcome of the election, remember that the newly elected Senators are of no concern to us right now...they don't take office until January, and we've GOT to get this legislation passed with our "current crop" of Senators before the holiday break!

May I respectfully suggest that you ask your Senators to co-sign Senator Landrieu's (sp?) letter as well? Her letter, with MANY signatures, could go a long way toward moving this bill onto the Senate floor!

One more thing...no names mentioned because we've all been there at one time or another, but PLEASE let's keep it very civilized here! Not just out of respect for Alex, but more importantly right now because many of us are referring Senators and their staffers to this site to learn about what we are doing....and the last thing we need is for them to think all we do is quibble and nip at each other!

ONWARD TO VICTORY!
Nancy

Kathy,
We can have them make a couch that is just like a saddle with reins. We want Alex as comfortable as can be. He is a STAR.

One more thing...no names mentioned because we've all been there at one time or another, but PLEASE let's keep it very civilized here! Not just out of respect for Alex, but more importantly right now because many of us are referring Senators and their staffers to this site to learn about what we are doing....and the last thing we need is for them to think all we do is quibble and nip at each other!

EXCELLANT POINT NANCY IN CT! We're inviting guests. Let's be on our best!

Senator Reid's aide just said to me, "I'll pass that along. We still get calls on this every now and then."

Senator Reid is on our daily call list. Please, everyone, call the daily call list every day, so that the aides, like this one, don't get the impression that we are winding down and willing to let this go until the next Congress convenes. As we all know, the next Congress will not jump on this immediately, and may well let it languish for the next four years, which will be another 360,000 horses slaughtered. We still DO have a window of opportunity to make this happen now.

Call Senator Reid! "Calls every now and then?" Let's change that!

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Alex, please post a link to your interview tomorrow.

Also, please send one autographed picture. Thanks.

ANNIE in TX -

That's a great idea to add an additional Senator and at the same make new friends.

I'm up for it. I will add AL as an additional State.

AL - because I remember Debbie L.A. pleading for help.

Annie:

I'm game, count me in.

Besides my home state, IL, I am calling PA, TX and one senator from MN because people have requested calls to those areas.

I BELIEVE IN BARBARO

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Sue W and Debra WI,

THANK YOU for the info about the NBC 5 Chicago video. Excellent story! Very impressed about the coverage. Makes me want to call Obama again . . . but instead I will contact the Senators on the list.

You go WONDERHORSE - Barbaro you are a miracle!

Did I mention I received my mini Breyer Barbaro yesterday?!!

GO FOB's, time is fleeting!!

Carol
San Diego

Thanks, Socorro.

I'm adding WV, because that's where I was born. Met Rockafeller when he first ran in the state. Reminded me of Lincoln. Want his co-sponsorship, especially since he's related to Mr. Jackson.

Are there any Mountaineers out there?

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Debra, WI:

Thanks for posting the NBC5 video link from last night's report...I had to leave for awhile and they must have posted it while I was gone!

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Shelley A and Marilyn CA:

Thanks for categorizing the level of graphic scenes in that video...I couldn't watch the scenes because they disturb me so much, so I wasn't sure how bad they really were..I just heard them talking about them and had turned my head. Just hearing about them makes me upset, so thanks for letting everyone know..

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Patty, Dallas:

They did not specifically mention S1915 but they mentioned that there was legislation that would ban it that due in Congress and if it passed, the plants would have to shut down. I wish they had been more specific about that, but at least they got the word out!

WARNING:

Multi-tasking can lead to embarrassing moments, but that's okay, they're fun.

Do you remember when Marky was trying to multi-task, she was at work faxing to the Senators and working, she ended up faxing a flyer to a bakery (I think), they called her back and asked about it. In her case, it worked out good because she was able to talk about it to them.

Now, I'm off to call Senators, be back in 20 min. (mine take longer because I'm overseas).

If you don't want to give your home phone number in the required field on Senator Ensign's email site just put in 123-456-7890 it will not take all o numbers

Thanks Cora - IL.

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Chris Byers and all,
I have always been entering my home phone, work phone, whatever they ask, because I feel it adds legitimacy to the request.

Interesting how the Chicago piece, Special Report: Out to Pasture, showed the plant manager in a white jacket. Looked like a vet . . . very clever. Actually he's a butcher.

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Annie in TX:

I thought the same thing...

And, nice picture of all the horses behind him. Wonder how many of those he's sent to Belgium dinner plates?

Oh, back to the calls.

Are any of you getting a message from Senator Reid's office saying his message box is full?

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Annie TX: I remember back in the old days when butchers used to wear white jackets and/or aprons. That's what that horse butcher reminded me of.

Socorro needs help! Try Reid's number. Let everybody know. We might have to turn to the FAX for him.

ALEX
Thank you for all the follow-up from the Breeders' Cup. Good for Film Maker, she has earned her retirement. Now she can look forward to being a mama!

Good to hear that NBC is giving the slaughter bill some coverage. Maybe those of us from TX can get some of the affiiliates here to do the same. Especially in Dallas and Austin. I sent E-mails and faxes to stations in Dallas and Austin back in September, but did not get a response.

Bobby
ACN for you, praise God. You have a wonderful, cast-free day, magnificent horse. Stay healthy and happy under God's protection.

Margie, I do too but some new people here may not feel comfortable with that and this will let their email be sent.

Hi All,

Did ya'll listen to the interview with Debbie Turner on CBS?

I am a little confused- Can they shape his hoof in order for it to grow more uniform. I got the impression that he is still not out of the woods and that his foot has a long way to go and it may not heal well. I am a worrier.

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Ok, this is rediculous. I am trying to watch the CBSNEWS.com video of Barbaro and the page is tellling me that I do not have any players installed. I DO have both Media and Real Player installed and when I tried to install again the computer told me I already had them installed. CBS STILL says I don't have either of them installed. What do I do now?

For Sen. Reid:

I pressed one to speak to someone and opened with "Please do not transfer me. I am attempting to leave the senator a message and the voice mail is full".

He wrote my message down for me.

I BELIEVE IN BARBARO

breathing, breath deeply
'for the gratefulness of Barbaro's strength and happiness and all those
around and working with him --they have not missed one step..what a
load- we see HOW TO SAVE A LIFE..THE LIFE..
-one could have not done it without his great heart but all fit into the
delicate spun gold of the effort.
.all equal parts..rich in intgrity mortar to the mystery
living blood-
,long ..the miracle-
and all heavy hearts..
in the last gold of these leaves
..breathing soft steps to the quiet truth
that simple feels good
always works
great.love is not disguised but visible.
isnt that great
.great
fondmont, skyler's rosie, .
.JUST breathing with you all
..in the last gold before the white and brown and grey and snow..
'let me just lay here on teh hill and breath
in the light and in the dark
martita

I just watched the piece on the nbc5 link. This again reinforces that the bolt gun is designed for cattle - not an agile, highly sensitive horse that was bred for human contact - not consumption.

The plant manager would have had a great career working under Adolph Eichmann.

Alex- Thank you so much for speaking out tonight on national television about the horse slaughter issue, I know it probably wasn't easy, I know when I start to talk about it I feel choked up inside, thank you Alex for speaking for the horses!
Barbaro, so glad you had ACN, you are a TRUE MIRACLE and we all LOVE YOU BIG BOSS!
I pray that Perfect Drift gets over the lung infection soon, and that Fondmort recovers soon. Theres an old saying that says it always gets darkest before the dawn, so I am praying that they both recover to their fullest ability, and that goes for you too Bobby Jackson!
I listened to "Out to Pasture" my media player couldn't play the movie to see it but I listened, the sounds were enough to put the images in my mind, those poor, defenseless and helpless horses! I hope everyone saw what is going on , on that broadcast so that they will help us put a stop to it, I hope that Senator Onama saw it too. At the end of the broadcast they should have also added the positive side of passing S1915 that horses lives would be saved and that they would get a second chance like the MO horses.
I'm going to start faxing again here shortly,
mary mi

Just spoke with Alex (Senator Reids) aide and he said that he does know for sure that Reid did Receive Senator Landrieu's letter and will look into his intentions of signing it.

JUST AN FYI, WE NEED TO KEEP CALLING TODAY AS TOMORROW IS VETERENS DAY!

We need to keep calling TODAY!!!!

Chris Byers-
Don't you mean Adolf Hitler?
mary mi

A nice early ACN for us!! YIPPEE!! Bobby, you really are amazing!! :-)

Shelley...thanks! The demon black is my Jackdaw, Puck, or 'The Puckster' as he's affectionately called. I won't tell you what other names sometimes to apply to him! lol
And I drink lots of stuff...just not the dreaded yukky stuff!

Liz has done somesearch and discovered that Fondmort means 'good death'...I hope this is an omen that he's going to live to a ripe old age!
Thanks for that, Liz...and I love Spontano's site! When I get more time I'm going to really enjoy that place. Doesn't Dessie look old? I know that he is old, but it seems so strange seeing him look like that. I just want him to live forever. And they have Persian Punch on the site too!

Alex...thanks for the update on Fondmort. I'm wishing so hard for him to recover from this.
Is Perfect Drift going to be ok?

Marg...my first Bill Bryson book was Notes From A Small Island and I laughed all the way through it...I was hooked on him from then on! I loved A Walk in the Woods :-)

Socorro...it's nice to be back :-)
And Sam says that she's happy for you to use her painting on your My Space.

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Lynda Pellitteri From SE Texas,
If it's any consolation, the CBS video only shows old footage of Barbaro. Dr. R talks about the laminitis, etc. - he is so cool - said it doesn't much matter about saving 1 leg of a 4 legged horse. He said they won't be happy there until all 4 legs are ok. He used the fingernail analogy, that they don't grow back pretty, etc.

Anyway good luck with your video player . . .

Carol
San Diego

ALEX -

You were able to visit with BETTER TALK NOW, WOW! What more can you ask for, a job you love and being there in the presence of these gorgeous horses.

All done with calling the Senators, called the two in Alabama, they appeared to not be busy, it was almost as if I could have talked hours with them and they were in no hurry to get off the phone.

DEBBIE L.A. - Glad I picked your State, besides you were my neighbor when I lived in Georgia.

Will take a break and then e-mail.

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Carol; Thanks, but I need to know why it's not recognizing that I don't have it. It does not make sense.

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Even videos I was watching before will not some up. This is ^%^%%$& stupid.

Barbaro just got coverage on Fox News. You go, you big hunk of a horse. smooooooch! Wooooo Hoooo

...sounds like Ms. Roberts & Dr. Goodman are on our side.
Do you have a link? I'm sure some of the FOB would like to contact Ms. Roberts.

Tracie

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Hi Tracie,

This is Selena Roberts's email:

selenasports@nytimes.com

This is the link to her article:

http://select.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/sports/othersports/08roberts.html?ref=othersports

Lynda,
Just a suggestion if you are using google try yahoo and visa versa,it worked for me. Good luck.

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Trish,

Did anybody answer your question? My understanding is that the hoof is growing back, but not with the conformity they would like to see. It is growing well in some places, but not in others. Dr Richardson continually reminds us that Barbaro is NOT out of the woods yet...months to go before they will know. I worry, too! Keep praying and lighting candles. That's why we are all here.

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Renee I didnt use either. I put in CBSNEWS.com and got it.

ALEX -

Congratulations on all the interviews you are getting, would like to see what your resume says now.

DEBRA, WI -

Wow! Thanks for reminding us that tomorrow is VETERANS DAY. I usually call Papa and tell him THANK YOU for his time in the Korean War. He was a linesman, he cleared the path for the soliders, by disarming the bombs and boobie (Renee and Pamela, I know what you guys are thinking) traps.

Thank you for commenting on Senator Reid, makes you feel good to hear something positive.

CORA-IL -

Thanks for the advise. My brain is starting to fry with this crazy time difference.

Thanks Barb,

I want our boy to do well and wish prayers and good wishes could heal him.

Keep up the good fight sweet boy

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Thanks, Cheryl PA

Take that plant manager out to pasture and..... I just cannot say the rest of what I feel about a professional murderer justifying his job.

Socorro,
I'm shocked that you would say that about Pamela and Me. lol sheeeeeesh

Lynda, when in doubt . . . reboot!

Dale C
How about a dozen or so...electric prods to the bod??

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Annie; LOL I did THREE times. I dont know what the heck is going on. I updated EVERYTHING and it still won't play.

My Precious Barbaro: Another comfortable night from our Creator. May He grace you with yet another comfortable day.........Father, please continue to fill our Barbaro with positive healing on his hind legs, protection on his front legs, and peace and calm for his spirit.
Father, thank you for the "Miracle of Barbaro"

Lost in the Fog: My heavenly angel horse....still missing you and keeping your candles glowing. Love you so very much.
Father, thank you for "The Fog"

Barbaro Team: Praying for a beautiful day for you and yours. Thank you for always "being there" when anyone needs you. God bless you and yours.

Alex: As always, thank you for all that you do to keep us connected to our Precious Barbaro.

Prayers and healing candles to all in need. Also, prayers and candles to our "animal buddies". Thank you Father for Your goodness. To You we give all the glory and praise.

Loretta: Read your posts........good to hear from you.

Jeanette Cavalier

"Please Pray for the Horses"

Dale,
i watched thast video he just sits there like the professional he wants to be and just talks like it was nothing...I heard livestock and almost flipped. He is not a human.

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I could never get NBC videos to play even on my school computer, so the fact it won't play on my home computer is not a suprise. But it is wierd that all the sudden CBS videos will not play now. I better check other sites and see if I can play ANYTHING.

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Annie

Forgot to mention this-Senator Clinton is also on my daily call list.

All these names are swirling around in my head (there's plenty of room) and I'm just going along for the ride. LOLOL

I BELIEVE IN BARBARO

"But for the sake of some little mouthful of meat, we deprive a soul of the sun and light, and of that proportion of life and time it had been born into the world to enjoy."

Plutarch, Greek Writer
(c. 46-120)

ACN, the good news just keeps on comin.' Keep it up, Barbaro. And make that hoof grow.

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Lynda Pellitteri

I was having the same trouble, went to my husbands computer and it work! Don't ask me why?
Keep trying!

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Socorro
Thanks for your help with the Alabama senators.

Call Burns office today, Heather his aide was so sweet and nice. Didn't ask where Katie was!
Called and faxed. Everyone is nice today.

No Mary, I meant Adolph Eichmann. Cold ruthless efficiency.

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Just checked the www.nbc5.com website and they have the Out to Pasture story on the home page as one of the top 4 lead stories...hopefully, that should get even more attention...

Hi Folks:

Just called the VIP Senators.

Now is a good time to call - everyone is hanging around on the day before a holiday.

DO IT NOW FOR THE HORSES HEADED TO THE SH.

Steve & Bdude

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Someday, those h.s. people are going to be run out of town, and hopefully by one thousand angry horses. And if they can't run fast enough - oh well!

Trish,

It is VERY common for a hoof not grow uniformly after foundering. The blood supply to the front of the hoof is typically more dmanged than other areas.

The heels will tend to grow much faster than the toe. My horse has about a 4 to 1 ratio between heel growth to toe growth. It isn't pretty but frequent, specialized trimming and shoeing can give the hoof a more normal appearance and will go a long way to restoring proper allignment.

The fact that Barbaro has done so well for the last four months is fantastic! Based on my experiences it will take a full year or so before he gets to the 'what you see is what you get' point. The hoof wall tends to be weaker when it first starts regrowing but becomes stronger over time. Although Barbaro may have a few little setbacks during the course of his healing, I have nothing but very good feelings about his recovery!

Back to lurking...

Hi Joyce,
Nice to see you. My question is...eventually as long as everything keeps going well(why have doubts)the hoof will get cut,filed and all will be even?

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Renee - profound! Thanks for posting the quote.

Thanks Joyce Moore,

I appreciate your response. I have been very unsettled the last few days after Pine Island's tragedy. I tend to worry and was just a little concerned for B. I have not watched a horse race in a least 15 years and I was devastated by what occured. Not sure what I think of racing but I can tell you that I LOVE B and want only the best for him.

Margie,
I saw it and had to post it. It says so much, makes you think a bit. Needs to be put in front of some people.

SUEW; Thank you for the NBC web site. I was able to watch the HS video from there. For some reason the other link just would not work for me.

HERE'S THE TEXT VERSION OF THE NBC5 CHICAGO FEATURE ON HORSE SLAUGHTER. (Sorry if it was already posted).

Illinois Horse Slaughter Makes Way To Senate

Special Report: Out To Pasture

POSTED: 11:00 am CST November 9, 2006
UPDATED: 12:41 pm CST November 9, 2006

CHICAGO -- Is it an important state industry or a classic example of animal cruelty?
When the U.S. Senate returns to Washington, one piece of legislation they may consider is a bill to outlaw a controversial business in Illinois.

NBC5's Phil Rogers reported on the ongoing controversey surrounding horse slaughter in Wednesday night's special report, "Out To Pasture."
In May 1986, millions watched as Ferdinand crossed the finish line to win the Kentucky Derby and a spot in horseracing immortality. But, as Rogers reported, the champion met a very mortal end with his run for the roses ending at a slaughterhouse in Japan.
"He outlived his usefulness to the Japanese interests that owned him. They simply slaughtered him and ate him," said horse rancher and animal rights activist Gayle Bacca.
The derby champion was sold as livestock and slaughtered, Rogers said.
Horse meat, by and large, is not eaten in the United States, but about 90,000 horses are slaughtered here each year. About a third of those are killed at Cavel Industries, a plant 65 miles west of Chicago.
"We're buying horses that no one else really wants," said Cavel's Jim Tucker.

But not everyone sees it in those terms.

"It's a bloody and barbaric industry," according to Wayne Pacelle, with the Humane Society of the United States. "We want to see it stopped because it's so inhumane."

One hundred percent of the horse meat processed in the United States is shipped overseas to countries like Japan, Belgium and France, where it is eaten like beef.

Billionaire Texas oil man T-Bone Pickens is among the opponents of horse slaughter.

"The whole thing, it's a boondoggle on the American people," he told NBC5. "People that are for the slaughter should be forced to go down on that kill floor."

Rogers said animal rights activists paint a frightening picture of terrified animals who know what will happen.

"Horses are more skittish than traditional livestock, so when they're at the slaughter house and they see other horses get killed in front of them, they get terrorized," said Christopher Heyde of the Society for Animal Protective Legislation.

Officials with the horse slaughter industry contend that they have been slandered by animal rights groups who simply don't know the facts.

"They have said over and over again that we slaughter a horse inhumanely. And they give the impression that we sort of knock the horses around a little bit on the head and cut their throats," Tucker said.

In reality, Rogers said, the Illinois plant said it uses a government-approved euthanasia method known as a penetrating captive bolt: a single shot which, they say, renders the animal brain dead instantly.

Cavel manager Tucker insists that there is another side to the debate which is rarely addressed.

"They are livestock and livestock can be sent to slaughter," he said.

But Illinois rancher Bacca called what Cavel does horrifically cruel.

"For Mr. Tucker to ever say that what he does (is) humane, is just ... it's not ... it's a lie," Bacca said.

She contends violations have been well documented by government inspectors, with observers citing frightening examples of horses subdued only after multiple shots.

"Horses, again, are sensitive to their surroundings. They are flight animals," Heyde said. "They are in there and smell the fear. The noise is deafening at these places."

"They are livestock and livestock can be sent to slaughter."
-- Joe Tucker, Cavel Industries

Rogers said Heyde has seen the slaughter firsthand. He's been instrumental in efforts to stop what he calls a cruel industry.

"You get the abuse at the livestock auction, you get the abuse in the transport, you get the abuse at the slaughter house," he said.

Heyde referred to auctions like one Rogers watched in the Amish country of Shipshewana, Ind., where slaughterhouse buyers bid right alongside mothers and fathers.

Horses go for as little as $100 apiece. Rogers said he watched as dozens of horses were poked with electric prods and packed into double-decker trucks destined for a quick end with the captive bolts.

In September, dozens of horses were hurt or killed when a truck headed to Cavel skidded off the road in Missouri.

"The traffic accident was a terrible thing," Cavel's Tucker said. "It's unfortunate that livestock trucks have accidents."

Two months ago, the U.S. House passed legislation outlawing the transport of horses for slaughter in the United States.

Asked what will happen if the bill passes, Tucker said, "Well, obviously, we'll be out of business."

"If they want to eat horses in Belgium and France, that's fine with me," Pickens told NBC5. "I just don't want them eating American horses."

Not all animal lovers support outlawing horseslaughter, however. NBC5 reported that the American Veterinary Medicine Association, based in Schaumburg, opposes the slaughter ban, asking how the tens of thousands of horses that would have beem killed would be cared for if a ban went into effect.

Copyright 2006 by NBC5.com. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Trish
We all feel the same as you, LOVE B and want only the best for him.

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Joyce Moore
Why are you Lurking?

Joyce Moore: Thank you, thank you, thank you for the info. Dr. R seemed so conservative with Dr. Debby (even more so than usual). I was concerned not knowing very much about laminites recovery.

Cora - IL: Yes, of course, Hillary. What's her problem? Let's find out. Call, call, call!

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Joyce,

Please do not go back to lurking. Your posts have always been so informative and educational. Miss seeing you posting.

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Has anyone heard from either Melissa H. or Deb G? Haven't seen either for a while. Deb G's horse, Snuff Box, was supposed to run today at Aqueduct but apparently the racing card was cancelled due to track conditions. Someone named Ronen posted the other night that Snuff Box was to run today--apparently he is the trainer according to the entries.

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OK GUYS....My happy heiney is officially on the board...so I got to thinking...WHAT IS SEN. FRIST DOING TODAY? He has had some major leisure time while we have been pushing the preverbial boulder up the preverbial mountain...I WANT TO REMIND HIM OF WHO HE IS WORKING FOR....so I called....I spoke with a person who was just "filling in" while they are in a staff meeting...I was told the meeting should be over in 30 mins....

I don't know about you, but I would personally love to give him an FOB WAKE-UP CALL...and urge him to get the stinkin bill outta committee...

Can U tell I am tired and frustrated? Then it dawned on me...WHY SHOULD I BE THE ONLY ONE TO SUFFER? I WANT HIS PHONE TO RING OFF THE HOOK!!!

Does anyone else feel this way or am I just being a crankmiester...?

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Renee,
the quote by the Greek write is so, so profound!
Could hardly watch the "Out to Pasture" video, my heart aches with such sadness for those lost ....this HAS got to end....

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Abuse comes in many forms. Deprivation and control are two.

ATTENTION: Pamela needs help! Call FRIST now.

Do your holiday shopping through igive.com and you can have $$ go to many different Horse Charities. There is a complete listing on the website.

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I liked the quote as well Renee. It says everything that we are working for. A great inspiration!

Maybe they can buff Big B's hoof when it grows out to shape it - like my nail guy does for me. Lol. Maybe with a 'beltbuffer'!

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OOOOPPPSSSS...In the haste of my nasty mood...I fogot to post his info...

SENATOR WILLIAM FRIST (TN)
Majority Leader - Only he can get it on the Calendar
202-224-3135 (P)
202-228-4637 (F)
http://frist.senate.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=AboutSenatorFrist.ContactForm

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Sen. Reid certainly has some dubious connections around the HS issue. I googled "Senator Reid Horse Slaughter" and got some articles about him manipulating the wild horse legislation so that it was not in favor of the horses at all.

I don't know if he's going to change, but I am still going to call him now and then.

Happy Heiney wants us to join her in making noise.
We don't want unhappy hineys here. Lets go call! Yipppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppe!

thank you, rhonda in new york

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There's something scary about happy heineys making noise, but can I join in too???

I BELIEVE IN BARBARO

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Dear Crankmeister, I just called. Had to leave a message.

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Renee...Of course we will be respectful and all that, but GOOD GRIEF...I have been working that happy heiney of mine for too long for FRIST to wiggle outta the Senate without doing the right thing!

Thanks for the support!!!You guys rock!!

Cora,
Have fun!

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Dear Cora, ROFLMAO

Bonnie
Senator Reid is the Minority Leader and has some influence because of it. He needs to hear our concerns even if he doesn't share them. Thanks for continuing to call him and all on the key list each day!

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TO MY WONDERFUL FOB FAMILY

I can't tell you how much your words, prayers, candles and flowers have meant to me. It has been a rough week, but slowly and surely I am coming back. This morning is the first time I have had the energy to log in and read and I am slowly going thru the posts and e-mails I have received.

I think nights in the hospital were the worst. It's still hard to get comfortable as the incision was from under the breast horizontally about 5" to the back. Then of course the dreaded rib spreader. But, I am home now and my "nurse" is taking good care of me.

I am so happy to hear the Barbaro is doing so well. He was on my mind alot and he inspired me to keep going.

I promise to return all the e-mails I have received - it just might take awhile.

Cheryl Jones and Barb D - it was wonderful to finally meet the both of you. And Barb - the book The Tao of Horses is just wonderful. Thank you! And of course my daily calls from Cheryl always made me smile!

Annie - you are a pistol. Thank you for calling me.

Linnie - you are the best. And yes, I will be planning a trip to Fla to meet you and all the Fla FOB's.

BTW - the nurses loved the FOB flowers - they kept coming in my room to smell the Lilies. So, they got me more attention than I probably would have gotten. And the guy that delivered them asked what the carrot was for.

Time for pain pill - will post again.

I love you all!

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Pamela
You and Cora have me laughing...when the hineys hit Frisk he will know he's been hit by something big. Did I say that?

Pamela
crankmiester...? I'm with you!!!!
Called him this morning, and faxed him. Love to do it again.

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Thanks Cora!...The next sound you hear will be a million heineys...marching to victory! LOL

I WANNA KNOW WHAT WENT ON IN THAT MEETING!

Renee,

Exactly. The first goal of trimming/shoeing is always to make the horse as comfortable as possible. (I've always been happy to give up appearance to gain comfort.) The farrier will strive to restore a normal P3 allignment regardless of what the wall itself looks like. Even though this may take time, Barbaro will continue to be comfortable.

Since the heels may continue to grow faster than the toe, the farrier will need to trim more off the back of the hoof than the front. Keeping the toe short and possibly rolled or rockered will quicken the breakover and put less stress on the wall.

I'm just making a wild guess here, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if by February they start using a product like Equithane to rebuild the balance of the hoof wall to give it a bit more stability.

Although bringing a horse back from laminitis/founder is a very long process, I just try to keep in mind what the future will hold.

By next summer (at the latest) Barbaro will be enjoying green pastures and playtime (rolling in the grass, bucking, dragging his humans to the paddock, etc). The next year he'll be enjoying the fillies and the following year we'll be enjoying seeing the pictures of his foals!!

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Crankmiester,
Just left Frist message.

Barbaro,

So glad you are doing so well - glad you got that cast off earlier this week - still praying for healing for you and Erin. May God continue to heal you both. Prayers also for Perfect Drift's connections - such a shame and also for Fleet Indian.

I'll try to check the forum later tonight

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I know I haven't posted in a while - they are monitoring us closer at work for internet usage and it's been a bit hectic and been spending time with my grandfather as much as I can as well. He has to have one more test then they will start treating his cancer. Thank you all for your thoughts and prayers for him. They are truly appreciated.

On a happier note, I have been out to LCR a few more times and am learning more and more about caring and training horses, and it's been great to help out at the rescue. I took my youngest brother Harrison out there with me last Saturday and he really enjoyed it. We groomed a horse together and he really enjoyed that. It's great to be out there with the horses and you can really tell that they truly appreciate all that is done for them.

You've all been in my thoughts and prayers even though I've not gotten to post on the board lately - so honored to know you all and be a part of this. And when it comes down to it - it's all because of and for, Barbaro :).

Ryan

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Re: Holiday gifts and cards. All can be purchased online at HSMO, HSUS, or ASPCA.

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Dear Crabby Pamela:

I just called him (again). This time I left a really sweet message, asking him to do what he can to get it out for a vote, saying that "I understand he is not returning to the Senate next year, and that in a way it's unfortunate" (good thing it was a message. If someone had asked HOW it was unfortunate I would have been in trouble LOL).

I mentioned that I'm sure he's seen that many of the senators support the bill, that I'm sure he's familiar with the co-sponsors, and with the letter from Senator Landrieu. I closed by saying that I hope he'll take the opportunity to do one last, important, really good thing for the animals and do what he can to get this up for a vote.

Now don't any of you tell me I'm wrong and that he's coming back next year or I will feel REALLY stupid.

I BELIEVE IN BARBARO

OMG Linda H, you have me in tears. It is so WONDERFUL to see and hear from you.

Please keep getting better.I am so thrilled you are doing so well. Are you spending time with Barbaro?

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I realize that I didn't finish one of my sentences lol ...

I am going to try to check the forum tonight but do we have a tally/record of any who were opposed or for the slaughter bill who were outseated the other day? I'm sure there is, but was just curious. Like I said, I'll try to check the forum tonight, as I'm sure there's a listing there.

Ryan

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Cora...you are right...hehehe...he isn't coming back, but he may want our vote when he runs for PRESIDENT!!!!

Crabby Pammie

JOYCE MOORE, why do you lurk? Please keep posting. Your knowledge is extremely helpful to us. Very reassuring. Thanks.

Just called Frist, got the aide. Told her I was calling about the horse bill S 1915, she then fliped me to a voice mail. GEEEE
Back soon, gone to the fax!!

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ALERT-tasteless humor coming!!

I think Renee just said I have a big heiney. LOL

And just how do YOU know, hmmmm???

I BELIEVE IN BARBARO

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Dear Joyce, thank you so much for your input. You make us look into Big B's future and anticipate what good is coming his way. Thanks.

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Ryan. Hi. No one monitors me, thank goodness. Good to hear from you again.

OOOOPPPSSSS...In the haste of my nasty mood...I fogot to post his info...

SENATOR WILLIAM FRIST (TN)
Majority Leader - Only he can get it on the Calendar
202-224-3135 (P)
202-228-4637 (F)
SENATOR FRIST - Contact Form

Posted by: Pamela at November 9, 2006 7:53 PM

Linda H - you get all better soon, girl!

Ryan - thank you for helping care for the horses

Joyce Moore: You are a godsend. Thanks again for even more info. Please stay on board! You've eased my mind tremendously today.

LINDA H: WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!! YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE RESTING!!! IT'S SOOOOO GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU. YOU SOUND GREAT. NOW KEEP UP THE RESTING, OR IT'S INTO THE SLING FOR YOU!!!

PammieBR>
That man will NEVER get my vote!!!

You can believe that as much as

I BELIEVE IN BARBARO

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Joyce is it your husband who had heart surgery?

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I can type, really. I know it doesn't seem like it sometimes. LOL

Joyce,
Thank you for the education. The plan sounds wonderful and the one I want to witness. Just to see pictures of him rolling in the grass free and easy will be a site to behold.

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HEY...do you think we should barage him when the meeting is over? I WANT TO TALK TO A HUMAN BEING!
(or at least someone impersonating one...tee hee)

Crankmeister

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Cora,
Out of control laughing...you got me good.

Joyce
Thanks for the hopeful image of Barbaro. I know you have frequently dealt with laminitis in your own horses, so coming from you it means a lot. We are keeping EVERYTHING crossed!

Everyone
Senator McCain's aide says Sen. McCain has not yet seen Sen. Landrieu's letter, but the aide thinks it is the kind of thing the Senator will want to sign.

For all these co-sponsors you are calling, please ask them to sign Senator Landrieu's letter urging Senator Frist to bring the bill to the floor. This is one more way to put pressure on Senator Frist!

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....SENATOR FRIST...put down that campaign money and come to the phone...

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Joyce Moore
Nice to hear from you. Stay with us.

LindaH
You are an inspiration. You're moving in the right direction. Keep up the good work.

Senator Byrd's aide got VERY touchy with me when I mentioned the letter from Senator Landrieu. She said "I am SURE he has seen it and we already have PLENTY of people telling us about it so I am certain he is aware of it".

After I hung up I was thinking, "Hey, don't get mad at me, we're on the same side here".

I guess the phones are driving them nuts.

HA HA I GOT RENEE!!!!!!!

I BELIEVE IN BARBARO

Cora: Thanks for calling another WV Senator. Probably the oldest living Senator in the history of the group! Maybe his aides are crabby olf ladies, but he's a prince!

Last call for Mountaineers. Any WV folks out there?

Linda H
How wonderful to hear from you! Please get lots of rest, and be careful with those ribs! Rib pain is terrible!

Everyone
Senator Lautenberg's aide says the Senator really wants to see the bill pass during the remaining days. But so far he thinks that the Senator has not decided whether to sign the Landrieu letter! Please urge him to sign the letter when you call him, as it really is aimed exactly toward getting the bill passed NOW. (Senator Lautenberg is on our Committee call list.)

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OOOOPPPPPPSSSSS
Her:
"hello, Senate Majority Leader's office."
Me:
"Hi, my name is Cathy and I'm calling on S1915."
Her:
"One moment please." the the recording.....
"The is the comments line..." blah, blah blah.

Has anyone heard from Katie in Burns' office?? I haven't spoken to her in at least a week. I got Ellen, and one other nice girl, I think her name was Heather, but I don't remember for sure.

Keeping good thoughts for "Crabby Katie".

For Mr. Out to Pasture:
In Buddhism there is a practice called "exchanging self with others". It is the most compassionate way to take on another's suffering. If possible, you are to do this exchange in reality, not just as a mental exercise; for example-living with the homeless. In the case of Mr. Slaughter, he needs to be in one of those bolt gun stalls, smelling, choking, slipping, feeling the terror of the horse right next to him. Put that on a video and then we can have a TV interview immediately after with his clean white coat covered with slime.

http://www.wgal.com/news/10282210/detail.html

Here is the story that Susan Shapiro interviewed Alex for 10 days ago. I hope to have the video available for all of us tomorrow after the piece airs. This is what is currently on their website as a "teaser." There's also a short video as a trailer for the piece.

News 8 On Your Side: Horse Slaughter In America

Thursday on News 8 at 11 p.m. an "On Your Side" report on horse slaughter.

There is a renewed effort to ban horse slaughter in this country.

Some of the horses sold at New Holland Stables in Lancaster County end up at slaughter.

So-called "killer buyers" come to buy meaty horses at a good price.

They say slaughtering horses is no different than slaughtering cattle or hogs.

But others say these are companion animals that shouldn't be killed for food.

The Humane Society of the United States went undercover at one of the three slaughter plants in the country.

News 8's Susan Shapiro will show us the video and have more on the controversy.

It's Thursday on News 8 at 11 p.m.

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Alex, thank you so much! ~ Lorri

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Cora and Marilyn...you guys are soooo good....
LANDRIEU'S letter signing is a great thing to mention...ALL OF YOU...thank you thank you thank you...

A CALL TO CARROT LOVERS EVERYWHERE! Pound em with the phones...can you tell my mood is still stinky?

And we say...I really want you AWARE of it...that's all.

Dale,
I want conduct the interview as I am using the bolt gun on him, and looking him in the eye asking him to please give us he views. As I glare at him and smile.

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On with the 'tasteless humor'! I love it.

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Ryan welcome back...we've missed you. So nice what you're doing for horses. God love you!

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Linda H. We are so happy to see you back. Take good care of yourself...I know you've heard this before for Big B. but...one step at a time.

I have faxed Mr. Frist about a dozen times today (and everyday). He'll probably shoot me if her ever meets me! Worth it for the horses though!!

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LAAADEEEES and GENNNTTTLLEEMMEN!!!!
May I direct your attention to post 2362.47 in the Star Tribune Contact....please thread-

Pretty pleeeze???

An important part of that post is as follows:

potentially good news. I talked at length with a lady at the Twin Cities NBC affiliate. I got her ear. I have sent her tons of info she had no knowledge of. I forwarded the Mo. humane society video and FOB's communications on anti-slaughter. She was looking for a Minnesota connection so I started with the fact Mn. has one of the largest horse populations in the country and many, many horse owners are not aware of killer buyers, etc. I know this because my son, who is a farrier and horse owner did not know of this stuff until I informed him 2 months ago. And his customers were mostly in the dark. i related this to the nice lady at the station. I also informed her Senator mark Dayton (Mn.) is a co-sponsor os S.1915 and Senator Norm Coleman, who has a history of supporting horse protection legislation, I waiting for the wording of the bill. I hope I convinced her that, yes, this is a national issue, but the aforementioned give it a Minnesota connection. Any ideas on how I can further the Mn. connection, let me know!

This could be a good opening in Minnesota, with or without an honest chance at stating our piece in the Star Tribune. I'm still hoping the Star will listen to us. I refuse to judge the entire organization by one unfortunate individual.

SENATOR WILLIAM FRIST (TN)
Majority Leader - Only he can get it on the Calendar
202-224-3135 (P)
202-228-4637 (F)

">CONTACT FORM

###Could someone tell me exactly how I managed to turn almost the whole post blue???

Hey Pammie, your CONTACT FORM is not linking - no little hand showing up.

For anyone who is reading this but not calling the senators, and who thinks it sounds too scary to make the calls:

We were all there at one time! This is so easy to do, really. And it is a GREAT time to join in this struggle, because these are the last possible days to try to get the bill passed.

You just call and say something like:

Hi! I'm calling about a bill. It's S. 1915, the Horse Slaughter Prevention Act. I'm in favor of the bill, and I would just like to ask the Senator to do everything possible to bring it to the Senate floor for a vote in the remaining days of this Congress.

Just something like that, in your own words. Call the list of 7 senators on our key list every day, plus your own state senators. Move on to the Committee members, too, if you can do that as well.

It only takes about 5-7 mintues to call the key senators, and you will feel very good about yourself each day when you've accomplished it -- I promise!

An aide may ask for the name of your state, or for your zip code. Just say what it is, and that the bill is important to you, to protect the horses in your state from slaughter.

Okay -- please call; and thank you for helping the horses!

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I think Pammie's depressed...no new footage of Dr. R. in weeks. She's in withdrawal and taking it out on "poor" Senator Frist.

Thanks for the warm welcome (back). I won't get into the details regarding why I'm really not comfortable posting anymore just that sometimes this board gets to be a bit too much.

As far as my knowledge of laminitis/founder, I really wish I didn't know a damn thing about it. The emotional swings of dealing with this disease are horrendous. On the good days you walk on clouds, on the bad days you question every decision you've ever made. Every abscess makes you think the end the near. Every vaccination makes you wonder if this is the one that starts the founder process again (never use all in one type vaccines). Every move to a different barn, every change in barn help, every change in the weather makes you wonder if there will be a tomorrow. And then there are the 'looks'. I have images burned into my brain of the eyes of the horses I've known with this disease that said, 'I've had enough'. I've become so focused on hooves over the years that I often can't tell one horse from another in the paddock, but show me their hooves and I can tell you everything I know about the horse.

I am so grateful that the Jackson's have the ways and means to monitor Barbaro every minute. He is the very best of hands and always will be. When laminitis struck Barbaro I went to the barn, hugged my horse and thought 'Skip got through it, so can Barbaro'. Barbaro is a star and he will always be made comfortable and will never have to deal with the issues ordinary horses do. And I thank God for that every day!

Regarding Dr. R. seeming a little off in his interview, I don't know about anyone else, but sometimes I forget that he has other patients to be concerned about. My brain just wants to think that he belongs strickly to Barbaro (and Pam).

Sorry for the long post, I think I need to go hug my horse and say a prayer or two...having a bad day.

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HEY...I JUST GOT MY FOOT IN THE DOOR AT FRIST'S OFFICE....I ASKED TO SPEAK WITH "ONE OF SEN FRIST'S AIDES"......I GOT TRANSFERRED TO WILLIAM...HERE IS THE LONG AND SHORT OF IT...

....I asked him to PLEASE urger SEN FRIST to get
the bill out of committee...he said "the session is going to be really short...and it will be hard to get it out of committee" I SAID SEN FRIST COULD DO THIS...WE KNOW IT WOULD PASS...he said
"well anything is possible"....I told him to please pass my request to SEN FRIST ...that he can do this in a matter of minutes!

ARE YOU AS MAD AS I AM?

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Just did a followup call to Lautenbergs office.
The aide said the Senator really wants to see this Bill passed. I asked him twice in the conversation to please have the Senator sign Landrieu's letter.
Just keeping it simple.

Ooops!!!

SENATOR WILLIAM FRIST (TN)
Majority Leader - Only he can get it on the Calendar
202-224-3135 (P)
202-228-4637 (F)

CONTACT FORM

For a local Minnesota angle (or for any state)

Locate a rescue facility that rescues horses from slaughter; get briefly acquainted with the person who runs it; ask if that person minds if you give the phone number of the rescue facility to your local news affiliate for a possible story on horse slaughter; call the station with the local-angle tip.

Chris,

I'm the other Joyce. Divorced. Got rid of the jackass and found my first horse three weeks later.

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Joyce Moore - I like your style!

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Marilyn/CA
It's funny you mentioned the scary part. I was very scared at first but with all the reminders that these people work for us I gathered the courage and started making calls. Now, several weeks later I'm not scared anymore. It's just become part of my daily routine.
When they ask what State I'm from I tell them and say that this is an issue of National importance.

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Joyce, it sound like you traded up!
Hope your day gets better - hugging your horse will cheer you.

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Lor in PA

"teaser." I can see why they call it that, it is a short video as a trailer for the piece.
Very short!

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JOYCE...you got one Jackass to move...Can you get another? Could you please call SEN FRIST'S office and ask to speak to an AIDE or to WIlLIAM?

We desparately need your Jackass expertise...!

officially way past cranky

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Annie - I was raised an 'eer but am now in OH. I've been pushing the issue with my friends in WV but it's not tough; they're all as appalled as we are.

You're right, Byrd is a prince.

K, just took a breather from work. Made my calls, but as Pamela is I am a bit frustrated with FRIST. Tried his office twice, first time the kid transferred me to the "comments" line, the second time I was told "I will pass on your message, but they have other important business to deal with"
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr! I feel like sicking Brady on them!

Ro & Brady

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Hay
HUH?
Are these people taking the day off tomorrow? Just when the Senators are returning? And a short session? What's up with that? Technically Veterans Day is Saturday.

Pam,

I call everyday. These people are way beyond being stubborn fools. They have no souls. I'm starting to believe this country is run by oil and cattle. If we could've found a way to turn horse s**t into oil, slaughter would have ended decades ago.

Thanks for the Barbaro update, Alex.

Joyce,
I did the same thing except with Greyhounds, wish I could add horses. The ex belongs with the taliban.

Pamela...knock it off...you are wonderful!!! Hiney breath.

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Ro & Brady
I know how you feel! Is Brady a big husband, are a big dog? Sickum Brady

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Debbie L.A.
Brady is a very feisty cocker spaniel!

Ro & Brady

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Pammie, just for you!!!!!!!!

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2165230n

OK, the rest of you can peek...LOL

Everyone may be tired, but please, hate to do this, remember the poor horses, their lifes depend on all of us, the poor horses can't even speak for themselves.

Please don't give up, we can't, let's hope for a miracle.

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Renee - LMAO. You can find my ex in the Taliban's harem tent.

I don't give up on any animal.

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Oh, Laura, where are you from. I'm originally from Wheeling. Went to undergrad in Morgantown. Am so excited you're here. Once from "West By God," always from "West by God!"

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Ro & Brady

Get um Brady.

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Kathy J,
I'll bet they are neighbors with jakasses no I mean they are the jackasses. lol

Cathy
Most of the Senators won't return until Monday, I believe. Is tomorrow the official Veterans Day holiday? If so, the senators who are already there will probably work tomorrow anyway, either at the office or at home; but their staff will have the day off. (Core, professional staff will probably show up anyway, I would think.) We can still leave phone messages tomorrow, even if no one will be asnwering the phones...

HEY ALL!
I completed 60 faxes today! YAY! I don't think I missed any of them. Also I faxed the WA senator about the Omak Suicide Races to see if there is anything she can do about it too, might as well go to the top and work down and see what happens.
Strength for all of you, thank you from all of the precious horses because you are their voice. GOOD WORK EVERYONE!
I'm taking a break now, hubby just got home, ha!
mary mi

Marilyn,
We have to call tomorrow, we can run the tape out on the answering machines.

That man from Cavel is icky! May all those poor horses that he slaughters every day--may their spirits, screamns and terror terriorize his dreams every night. How can people say that horses are livestock? Gee, I guess my horsie that I rode as a teenager was livestock. That makes me a true cowgirl--as in rodeo.

I guess this makes Barbaro livestock?! Barbaro who's defied the odds--courtesy of Mom and Dad Jackson, MM, Peter Brette and Dr R. Barbaro is welcome to come visit my home any time he wants and stay as he chooses. I can even promise color tc! But he's not on the dinner menu in my home.

I wonder if he prefers his carrots raw or cooked????

Barbaro I'm so proud of you. You've hung in there when things have not been at their best. You kept telling Dr R when those icky casts were wrong. Now look at you. Out of the cast and going outside every day to graze! Just like a real horsie should. I know it'll be months yet before we know for certain about your other leg but you keep on keeping on.

Michael's Miracle

Margaret

Hi fellow fans,

I'm wondering why one man should have so much power. Why is Frist the only person to schedule S.1915 for a vote?? I guess that means we have to keep pounding him and urge the other Senators to pressure him too. I'll try some emails now.

Janice
Proud to be a fan of Barbaro

Barbaro, I am so happy that everything is going so well for you. You are one of the lights of my day. Oscar and I wish you the best. We'd invite you to our Thanksgiving Dinner if you liked turkey. But I hear apples and studmuffins are your specialties!!! Take Care & God Bless!!!!
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Mattie, I am glad you are on this board.
Believe in Barbaro!
Believe in Miracles!

God bless you Barbaro. Have a great, healing day sweet boy. You are always in my thoughts, my prayers, my heart. I love you Barbaro.

The miracle continues...

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Tracie: that's not fair. I want to peek too. But the link doesnt work for me :O(

I am taking a break. I did emails so far. I will call a bit later.

OMG... Just watched the Out to Pasture video,don't know why I subjected myself to this,but in a way I'm glad I did.It motivated me to get back on the phone and call the senators.

Margaret,
How nice. Does that mean we can all come stay with you? Have Barbaro, have posse. Truly...I like what you wrote.

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Anything for you SOCORRO...I heard about your new movie....SLEEPLESS IN DUBAI....

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Lynda, I'm sorry...*sniff*...maybe one of our resident computer geniuses can help you out...
Mine isn't home at the moment........

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Janice; He can stop a bill from coming to the floor, but any one senator can also stop all proceedings. It happened a lot with judicial nominees. For instance, if there is a bill that is going to pass that one senator does not like, he can put a hold on that one or another bill as kinda like a "punishment" for not getting what he wants. Thats also why sometimes one judicial nominee can go 2 years without a hearing.

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Can you all imagine the teasing that has been going on with us. Nope no one knows. Barbaro is walking around with a splint and we the FOB's have not seen it yet. The suspence is killing me. We need new pictures of him.

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Tracie; I already posed the problem in here. No one knows what my problem is. I will have to wait until they archive it, because apparently I can get all the archive videos, just not recent ones.

## Full day of calling and faxing our important senators and many others. I recruited my mom who is retired and 10 of her animal friends who have been on the phone all day and will be Monday also. My mom faxed stolen horse info to Ellen in Burns' office, she said she was not aware of any horses being stolen for slaughter. I know Burns is against us but I feel her passing along info about the stolen horses might keep him from blocking our efforts.

Also spoke to John Lopez in senator Boxer's office for awhile and I mentioned about Joe at tbfriends had the slaughter truck come by on 11/7 and he could only save one horse. He said she wants that info so I faxed it to him. She is working hard for the bill and I pointed out what a waste of time and money for Prop 6 - to ban transportation of horses for slaughter out of CA because it is not being enforced. More ammunition for her to demand a federal ban - NOW! Sent him Joe's website.

Back to calling as today we lost hundreds more at Kaufman.

Also, the aide at senator Nelson (Fl) office said he thought the letter from Landrieu was arriving tomorrow or Monday. I think I remember it being dated 11/10 when it was posted. Has anyone checked to see if there are any new co-sponsors or is it too early?

Barb m in Florida

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Lynda, ok...

PS...PAM must have missed my post!!!!!...LOL

Lynda,
Did you try adding the link to Google videos?

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Renee - for crying out loud I thought you were on your way there earlier to take photos since Sabina is down for the count. Don't tell me we have to wait longer!!

###I thought it might be good to follow up with Phil Rogers again. I emailed him about slaughter, and about the FOB's. I gave a couple of examples of the number of "unwanted" horses that aren't really unwanted. I also mentioned that Frist can get it out of committee and that our IL senators haven't taken a position.

I posted the letter in the NBC5 news Chicago thread if anyone is interested.

I'd love to see him continue to cover this. If nothing else, it might wake up our senators.

I BELIEVE IN BARBARO

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Renee Antaya,
U R MEAN!!! You are only nice to a select few and you are so rude to other people. You don't own this website. You are not this website's backbone. Barbaro is.

Kathy J,
I'm with him in the stall. Everytime I try to get my camera and take a picture he opens his mouth like he is laughing sticks out his tongue and nips me. I'm trying. Hi Dr. Richardson...where is Pamela? Are you asking me where she is....you are!

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I wonder if I scared Pammie away when I called her "stinky Pammie"? She said it, I just repeated it-really. LOL

Barb m - this is a flyer on a stolen horse named Dilly that was linked on the Indiana Horse Rescue site. That aweful auction place is there and I worry she ended up in Dekalb.

http://www.netposse.com/stolenmissing/DillyINoct06.htm

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Rachael - I'm sorry that statement was totally uncalled for. If you're having a bad day, I'm sorry. But please, don't drag other people down with you.

Rachel,
Who ever you are I talk to everyone! I don't own the website. Grow up! Who are you?

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I just saw the horse slaughter video. I have written numerous letters and sent emails to Senator Frist. I think he is opposed to horse slaughter, but I am not totally sure.Anyway, if there is anything else I can do, I'd be happy to do it. That cruelty is too inhumane. God Bless all the sweet, precious horses. May you never have to endure cruelty like that again!

Kathy J,
Thank you my friend! I haven't done a thing.

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Rachel:

Bad days can be useful. Channel the anger into calls and faxes. Help us make a difference for the horses.

Renee is nice to everyone. Even me.

Welcome to our group. I hope you'll join our efforts and conversations.

Dilly is a 21 year old mare that they had since she was 3. She is a family pet.

Stolen and still no sign. I fear the worst.

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Renee,
I know that.

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dd
Yes it made me feel that way too.

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Amie welcome, if your new to the site.
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Sandie welcome. New name to me. Sorry if your not new. Just have not talked to you myself.

Cora,
Thank you for standing by me. It's almost time to go home, the jelous ones can come in.

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Anybody have any input on my letter to Phil Rogers before I hit the send button???

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Who is Renee being mean to, anyway? she is just a ham-a prankster, not a mean-spirited shrew...HA

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Good idea Cora! Channeling!!

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Rachel,
We all abide by the rules set forth by our Dear Alex, your statements going forward that are not BArbaro related need to be kept to yourself and if you choose to speak out and be ugly towards any posters here... you are NOT welcome to stay.

Dora

No one. Not even me. LOL It's all a simple misunderstanding.

Goodnight Sweet Prince, and Fans of Barbaro.

Wishing all of you a lovely evening and blessings for the day.

The hard work will pay off...we will pass the bill..always look up, God is there.

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Cora - push 'send'!

i kept trhinking of Dilly's beautiful face when I watched the news piece today. So to say that the horses slaughtered are unwanted is not true. People are stealing them to sell and make a few bucks before it is banned.

Link to new interview with Dr. Richardson from CBS this morning!!!!!!!!

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2165230n

Maybe PAM will see it this time~...or has she already & we need smelling salts?...LOL

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CORA-Great letter-send it!

Dora,
I enjoy life, I have fun but I can be very serious especially whe it come to issues like we deal with here, and I do my part with all of you. We all work good together. Big hugs Dora.

Shrew?????????????????? LOL

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Kathy J.

'kay!!

My husband said look out or I'll wind up on TV. That would sure scare the KB's away from IL. LOLOL

I BELIEVE IN BARBARO

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Chris, still no word on Dilly? That's horrible! I was so hoping they'd find her with the info they had.

Thank you Leigh.

R-reliable

E-enthusiastic

N-nice

E-energetic

E-empathetic

GO RENEE!!!!

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Political activist, resident cheerleader, comic relief.

Just call me Wonder Woman!!! (instead of what most people call me). LOL

Cora,
You made me cry. Thanks!

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TRACIE!!!!...OMG...*getting off the floor after minutes of unconsiousness*.....I AM IN HEAVEN!!

....suddenly becoming less crabby

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Hi Annie - I've been here for months, have only posted once or twice, but I had to post to a fellow 'eer! I'm from the big city (ha, ha) Charleston. I actually know more people from Wheeling now that I'm in OH. I went to WVU for a time myself -- lots of stories.

Wonder Woman

C aring
O utstanding
R espectful
A dventure

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RENEE!!!

You got it backwards again!! You were supposed to laugh, not cry!!!!

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I knew she just needed a 'Dr. R.' fix!! Hope you didn't hit your head on the way down to the floor Pammie! You need all your wits to stay on Frist!

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Hay Renee
You mean person you. ((((HUGS)))) You're far from mean...you are a DELIGHT.
It's OK to have a bad day Rachel. Girls just wanna have fun.....

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AWWWW, now I'm blushing.

I LOVE YOU GUYS!!!!!!
YOU GO GET EM'
Karann

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Pam, I thought we were gonna have to send the EMT's to check on you!!!!...LMAO

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What did I miss??
Tracie, how did you get Pammie to stop being crabby (finally). LOL

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

I wonder after all this time of me being here why this childish behavior is starting now. Two in one day. Gives me something to laugh about. I don't like trouble or people who cause it.

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Pom poms for Renee and Cora!! You know, I think Barbaro would make an excellent cheerleader as well! Someone get him a sweater with a big 'B' on it and horsie pom poms.

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Renee-I was just projecting onto you-I am the shrew

Cora...I posted the link to the new Dr. R interview from this am....

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=2165230n

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....*staggering around room in Dean induced stupor*

GIMMEEE A B!!!!!

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I will stop after this...poor RACHEL from KF she has the same name as this mean spirited rachel and she spelled it with all caps like our RACHEL the loving one does.

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Tracie:
Somehow, I just KNEW it had something to do with Dr. R. I don't know how I knew, but I knew.

THANK YOU TRACIE!!! No crabby Pammies on here please, only happy Pammies.

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An imposter amongst us.

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Debbie in LA, Thank you for welcoming me to this site. I come every day but usually just read anything I can about Barbaro and then leave.
I teach high school English and usually have papers to grade at the end of the day!!!:)
Anyway, Barbaro has just touched my heart in such a way as I am sure he has all of you!

Thanks again, Debbie in LA, you are very sweet!!!

Kahty J and Posse,
Shake those Pom Pom's.

Speaking of Rachel at KF, have we heard any more on how she is?

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Pam, stop walking around...sit down...ROTF

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Renee

Regarding the two in one day question:

Some days you're the dog, and some days you're the hydrant. Guess we know which one you are today. LOL

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Pammie,
It was him in Barbaro's speedo.

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Cathy P. LMAO!

Cora,
Today I want to be the big HORSE. hehe

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Everyone please...I'm laughing like an idiot in my office and people are looking at me funny.

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Cora, I posted it 3 times...LOL

Kathy J...Bernie posted on the forum last night...I'll see if I can find it...

You know something, if we didn't goof around like this at the end of the day, I'm betting we'd all be pretty crabby and a lot less motivated for the next days' efforts.

Laughing is good, it gives me a chance to stretch out my wrinkles. LOL

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Am leaving going to movies w/ex-sister in law... HA explain later (brothers ex) I still see her & nephews but not my brother

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Kathy J,
He is now sitting in front of you on your desk smiling and swishing his tail.

Kathy J.

AGAIN?????

Dora,
Have fun. Thank you my friend. Love you!

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With his legs crossed.

Cora,
ROFL

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Rachel KF update from Bernie last night....

Update about Rachel:

She's going to be staying at home for the next seven to ten days off her feet. It does have something to do with an iron deficiency and stress, but we're still waiting for the treatments to kick in. We'll keep you posted when we get news. As always, thank you for all your love and support.

Bernie, KF

Hope this is OK, Bernie...

Lynda,
Did you try adding the link to Google videos?

Posted by: Renee Antaya at November 9, 2006 9:24 PM

How do you do that?

Good afternoon FOB's:
I just recieved word from the Star Tribune. They are printing our article in the Sunday edition. And, she said, possibly with a picture of BARBARO! More national exposure WITH THE FACTS!
Thanks to all who stayed on this. A big hug from me and all our horses! I have happy tears! And please, not to slight anyone, but thank Cora! She was relentless and was a major component in this victory!
Love to all FOB's!
Daryl

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Flipping his hoof in the air.

Good night my sweet prince. Hope you have sweet dreams of peppermints and green tops. LOVE YOU BUNCHES!!

Prayers to all that need them, Erin, Rachel, BDude, Rosie, Naomi, Officer Marsh and their family and loved ones.

BLB!!!

FOB FOREVER!!

Karen - TN

You guys are cracking me up!!!!
You ok Pammie???
Barbaro is busting up at you guys!
Has anyone found any New pictures of out boy??
Maybe if we send a disposable camera with the treats someone will get a hint. :)
Karann

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After phoning my heiney off...having to read MEAN garbage about my friends...THAT VIDEO was the perfect antidote!

P assionately

A gainst

M anure on the board

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Great job Daryl & Cora.
I hope the article draws a lot of attention. Can it be posted here for all to see?

Lynda,
Go to google click on videos and put the link in the address box.

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I hope he has his little white tennie's on his back feet to match his outfit!

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Tracie - thank you so much for the Rachel/KF update. I missed it last night.

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GUESS WHAT???

Daryl has succeeded. His article is going to be printed on Sunday. Check out his post in the forum!!! The Start Tribune contact..please thread.

I couldn't be happier (well, okay, I'll be happier once the SH's close down, but you know what I mean).

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Head's up.........
MANURE ON BOARD..........LOL

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Karann, now that's a good idea!!!!!!...LOL

OOOPS!!

I see he told you already. LOL

WAY TO GO DARYL!!!!!!

## Chris - thanks I sent him the flyer from Dilly also. I have been worried about her too - has there been any news on her?

Sobering article from ABC news regarding thoroughbred horse slaughter - mentions Barbaro -I will try to post it later.

Barb m in Florida

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So, now in addition to FOB's we are POM's, people against manure!!!

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Daryl - wow you worked your butt off on this one (and Cora) and got the job done. Good man!!

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One fresh video of Dr. R. and Pammie is back on track ... and now a fellow cheerleader. What can possibly be next?? LOL!

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Kathy, YW...*s*

Congrats to Daryl & Cora...been following all that work on forum

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Lynda,
Go to google click on videos and put the link in the address box.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at November 9, 2006 10:04 PM

OK I did. Now what? I See the "popular" videos, the "featured" and "comedy" videos...

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Cathy Potter whatever you're drinking - you MUST share!!

I agree.

Daryl, please post your article for all to see.

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GOOD GRIEF...DARYL...you are famous! Hey...don't forget to post the article here Sunday/Monday...
WOWIE WOW WOW

Good night Everyone,
Time to recharge for tomorrow. To those special friends who stood by me I can't say thank you enough.It means alot! Mean has no place here for Barbaro's sake.It's negative.

Barbaro Graceful One,
Enjoy your evening, you need a teddy to cuddle with. Have some treats go to sleep. Angels are on your pillow waiting. Nite Nite. I will wish on a star for you. Love you! muah

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Gosh LYNDA...I wish I could help...but I don't know how...You MUST see the Video...even tho Mr Matz isn't in it...tee hee

Way to go Daryl!!!

Barbaro is giving ya high fives!!

Be sure to post the link, can't wait to read it.

Karen - TN

Lynda,
Just click on search see if will bring it up. I'm guessing now.

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Kathy J

Please join me in my desert dwelling for Barbotinis with cranberry juice.....
No RSVP necessary.

Pamela,
Have a good night friend.

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Pamela; *sigh* I understand that the Dr R is second best, but thats ok. It can tide me over until the media show Mr Matz again.

### I just got a nice response from Phil Rogers:

Dear Ms. Adelizzi,


Thank you for your very kind and thoughtful note. We received a tremendous amount of response on the horse slaughter story...almost all of it positive, and expressing concerns such as yours. I know you will stay on top of the issue, and I'd invite you to keep us informed about progress of the legislation as it makes its way through the Senate.


Many thanks,

Phil Rogers

Now, if anyone can think of progress to tell him, I'll be more than happy to contact him. I will need a bit of help in what we would like to say to him though.

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Good night Renee.

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Cathy P. - I'm in!!

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Nitey Nite Renee....

Lynda...ROFLMHEINEYO

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Lynda,
Just click on search see if will bring it up. I'm guessing now.

Posted by: Renee Antaya at November 9, 2006 10:14 PM

*sigh* Nope. It says that there are no results. I will just have to wait until its in the archive.

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Wait, who is leaving. Renee or Pam?

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Daryl,
All the horses thank you, me too!!!:)

Great, Great job!!!! Can't wait to read the article!!!

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Daryl and Cora,

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! This is a huge victory! Thank you, thank you, thank you. You stuck to your convictions! I can't wait to read it.

WHOPEEEEEEE!

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Renee: Thank you for your help! See you tomorrow

G'nite Renee.

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Cora,

I would consider getting national coverage "progress", so maybe tell him about your & Daryl's article, about Alex's interview, etc.

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CHERYL OH CHERYL......WHERE ARE YOU...YOU HAVE AN EMAIL FOR ME...RIGHT???? You know I go through withdrawls.

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Cora and Daryl - WOW! congrats on the article. Let us know where we can see it.

Good Night all. Prayers tonight for Fondmort, Lord please make him comfortable, Babs, Nala, Lola, B's hoof, and all those here in need.

Thanks Alex.

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OK LYNDA...try this...GO HERE

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/earlyshow/main500202.shtml

Then scroll down to the video feature that has the picture of our beloved Barbaro/Dean and play that video...

#### Daryl and Cora -
Giant congratulations ..............for the upcoming article to be published on Sunday (great day - more coverage !!)
Am thinking that FOB's need to be hired for several zillion $$$$'s ( think of all the horses who'd find new homes !) ........ with Barbaro as Chief CEO - hooves up on desk ......... for Corporation that can do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING, LLC.
Have been faxing - and emailing contact info for out of state friends to email and fax and call .... and am pooped ! Heading for a Starbucks and to toast Daryl, Cora and Barbaro - and all members of FOB !

Sherry - Arizona

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I was supposed to get my hair blown-dry straight today, my hair is really a mess otherwise. I do this once every week or two. The guy who does this came into the middle of a conversation that I was having with two other people at the salon while I was telling them about Pine Island. He said not to worry because she is now food. You do not even want to know what I said next. I tried to be calm and explain the facts of life to this person. To no avail. I did not get my hair done and will no longer go to this person. My husband also gets his hair cut with this person and is in for a surprise when he discovers that he too will be going to someone new. Did I overreact? This person is very stubborn. He is from the Islands and has no respect for women and anything that we have to say. Just wondering if I did the right thing. I am still very upset that anyone would make that comment let alone to someone they know loves animals.

If we are going to report progress, I'm thinking the easiest way we can collaborate is if I start a thread in the forum. PLEASE, if you have something to add, I'd appreciate it if you would post it. Working together, we can turn it into a powerful progress report.

Your help is appreciated.

I'm off to start a post called NBC progress report suggestions.

### You did good, Debbie !
Yeah for walking out and taking your business elsewhere.

Sherry - Arizona

MY TAILBONE STILL HURTS :>( !!

HOPE EVERYONE HAD A PRODUCTIVE DAY- I DID CALL SOME SENATORS BEFORE TAKING MY PAIN MEDS (LOL-PAMMIE) LAYING ON MY SIDE, BUT I HAVE A HARD TIME SITTING UP AT MY COMPUTER.

LUV & PRAYERS FOR BARBARO AND EVERYONE,
CHERYL G

Just Say NO to Horseslaughter

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PAM; I tried that already. One of the links says that I havent got the windows media OR real player downloaded, and the other link has piles of errors on it. None of it makes any sense

Sherry - Thanks. I just needed to know if anyone else agreed with me. I thought that was uncalled for, but then I worried that I overreacted. I would not give that "man" another penny of my money.

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Debbie B...You did the RIGHT thing!!!!!
((((((DEB)))))))

Good for you Debbie B. You most certainly did NOT over react.

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Lynda.....

CBSBARBAROCAST

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FINALLY...thank goodness CHERYL is at least alive!
You take care of that heiney of yours OK?tee hee
PLEASE, rest...but there is a new DEAN VIDEO OUT!
HAHAHAHA...now that I have your attention...LOL

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Amie,

Thank you for your heartfelt posts and all the calling you are doing. I'm glad you're here!

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SUSANO; Thats the link that gives me all the errors.

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Debbie B:

Yes, you did the right thing and stood up for what we all believe in...way to go!

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DebbieB
You acted just as I would. This is a subject that you are passionate about. If anything, the hairdresser should have kept his big mouth shut.
The customer is ALWAYS right.

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Lynda.... Did you try cleaning your cookies?

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Photos of:

Better Talk Now

http://www.barbaralivingston.com/gallery/album17/BTN

Film Maker

http://www.barbaralivingston.com/gallery/album17/8798a

Perfect Drift

http://members.aol.com/perfectdrift2003/Drift061506.html

Horse Hands Across America and the World!
Keep the Faith!
Hoofray! Hoofray! Hoofray!

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SusanO; No. I hadn't thought about that.

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SusanO how do you clean cookies? I deleted mine just now

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Lynda.... control panel....performance & maintenance.....free up space on hard disk.

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Deleting cookies did not work. I still have errors and saying I dont have real media downloaded.

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Debbie B...Cheerleading pom poms for you. Good girl I know how hard it is to leave a hair appointment!

Tracie, Cora, Sue W and Cathy Potter. Thanks for the support. Sometimes I worry that I overreact to things that I am passionate about, but I did not really think so this time. It is nice to have people who agree and understand. I had been going to this person for three years. And the woman who owns the salon for 18 years. I could not believe that someone would talk to a customer anywhere like that. I have learned.

Thank you all!!

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Debbie B.,

Regardless of the insensitive remark by your hairdresser about Pine Island I wouldn't go to him anyway if he was disrespectful to women! I really draw the line there! Maybe this was an opportunity for your to find someone with better social skills to do your hair.

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HEY SUSAN O....good to see you

LYNDA...maybe you need to uninstall and reinstall
your media player...you can do this through your
control panel and the add/remove program

Kathy J. - Thanks. This time it was not so tough though. My ideals and beliefs come first. I decided that I do not want someone like that touching me.

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SusanO: I dont have "Performance and Maintenance" but I looked under "admin tools" and all the computer management stuff is under there. I am trying a defragment and see if that helps.

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Lynda P
Do you have the most recent version of WMP. I think it's V10?

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Pamela: I downloaded the lastest Media version and it still does not work. It's like the web site does not see it.

Bonnie - Amen to that! I already have an appointment scheduled with a woman! I know that I am better off. You are right about it being an opportunity to leave him.

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Cathy: I do now LOL.

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Lynda..... What OS are you using?

AW- THAT VIDEO WAS GREAT OF DR DEAN, WISH WE WOULD HAVE SEEN SOME NEW PIX OF BARBARO IN THE VIDEO, IT MUST HAVE BEEN HIS NAP TIME WHEN CBS WAS THERE!! :>) GLAD TO SEE DR DEAN LOOKS WONDERFUL AS ALWAYS, SOMEONE MADE A BET WITH ME THAT THE GOOD DR HAD LOST A LOT OF WEIGHT--U KNOW WHO U ARE, PAY UP GIRLFRIEND!!! :>)

LUV & PRAYERS,
CHERYL G
:>)

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Daryl Smoliak
That is great news. Thank you and Cora!
Can't wait to see it.
You go girl

Night to all - Going out to dinner with the hubby and breaking the news to him that he has to find a new person to cut his hair. LOL Thanks to all who reaffirmed that I did the right thing. It is so nice to have support.

Night Bobby - Sweet dreams to you big guy.

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SusanO. I have a Gateway and its Windows XP

G'nite Debbie B.

LYNDA, U ARE USING INTERNET EXPLORER, RIGHT-- AND U CAN USE EITHER WINDOWS MEDIA PLAYER OR REAL PLAYER TO VIEW, IT'S UNDER "SETTINGS" WHEN U FIRST START THE VIDEO!

GOOD LUCK SWEETIE,
CHERYL

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CHERYL; I am going through withdrawls. I think you have an email that is mine LOLOL

Goodnight All. We had a very productive day with special kudos going to Daryl and Cora. Great work everyone.

I won't be here tomorrow, but I doubled up on my faxes today. If anyone feels ambitious tomorrow send an extra fax for me if you wouldn't mind.

Goodnight Sweet Prince. Peppermint Dreams and Carrot Wishes for our Big Boss Horse. Grow that hoof!

Alex or should I say Mr. Alex! You are a superstar these days...before you know it we'll be seeing you on Oprah! Thank you from all of the 'little people' you're the best!

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CHERYL: Yes, I know. I click on a media player and it says I don't have it. But I do. I even downloaded the lastest Media player and it didn't make any difference.

I just saw Alex on the 5:30 news on WGAL Ch. 8 Lancaster, PA. It was a short 'teaser' for the big story on at 11 pm about horse slaughter.

At first, I thought it was Brett Farve getting interviewed. Same shirt, wrong accent.

Lois, with an Eagles sticker on her car

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Lynda.... When you click your start button(lower left) 6th one up is settings... click settings....
top one is control panel.....5th one down on left is performance & maintenance.

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Alex looks like Brett Favre?

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LyndaP
Your puter's got a "hitch in it's giddyup."
Call Gateway Support.

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SusanO; Yea, I did that, but My fouth-from-left says Admin controls

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Lynda..... you could try doing a restore point....
or go to add & remove.... take out all players & reinstall

LYNDA P - SORRY GIRLFRIEND, I'M JUST TRYING TO HELP, I CAN TELL U ARE GETTING FRUSTRATED-- I HAVEN'T READ ALL THE POSTS YET THOUGH. I CAN SEE REAL QUICK IF IT'S ON A DIFFERENT WEBSITE, THEN MAYBE YOU CAN VIEW IT THERE MORE EASILY- THAT HAPPENS TO ME SOMETIMES.

LUV YA,
CHERYL
:>)

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Cathy; My computer has had a "hitch" ever since I downloaded the Norton Antivirus Security Software!!

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Lynda..... Cathy has a good idea... isn't Gateway supposed to have good CS.

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CHERYL; I am sorry, Didn't mean to sound ugly. Haha yea this is frustrating!!! Love you too.

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FOB's

Opinion please:

One of the suggestions I have received regarding progress reports to Phil Rogers is to send him the letter Senator Landrieu sent to the senators.

I would like your input on this. Shall I send the letter to him, if so, are there any comments you feel should go along with her letter??

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Lynda.... OMG....thats the hitch. I have had nightmares with that software. I think we spoke about it before.

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Cathy and Susan; Yea I guess they do. I have never had to call them.

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SusanO; You too? That's probably what it is then. It told me when I was downloading that it may interfere with some things.

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Lynda.... your Norton, what year?

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Susan, I bought it this year, its brand new 2006

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Amie your sweet too. Thanks for your post!

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Daryl Sorry I thought your were a girl.
Good job and way to go!

Have to go cook supper,

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I run Norton too but I can't attest to it interfering with WMP b/c my default player is usually Creative which came with my MP3 player.

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Lynda.... thats the one. This version with its problems has moved Norton down to the no.2 spot.
Zone Alarm is now no.1

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SusanO; Crap. I wonder if I shut everything off and than I could try to play it

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Cathy.... What is the full name of your Norton?

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Well, it didn't do any good to shut it all off.

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Lynda ... you could try .. don't think it will help. NIS2006 creates registry errors. I had to purchase a reg. cleaner to get around it. Have to run it plus clean cookies & adaware pro every time I boot.

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I have the same. It's the Internet Security 2006.
Includes Anti Virus, Spam Blocker, Firewall etc.

What about turning off the Firewall just long enough for the video.

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Susan does it work for you?

Cathy; I have all that too. I shut the whole thing off and it didn't help anything.

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Crapola

Cora,

When you send him the letter, mention that Senator Landrieu is a wonderful friend of the horses and that there are many senators that are also friends of this issue. Make it sound like they are the majority and that joining her in this is THE thing to do. Make it very positive and not like we are fighting an uphill battle.
People tend to jump on winning bandwagons a lot quicker.
Don't mention that you know how many signatures she has yet....let him assume that there are lots but that we need more to be assured a victory.

Does that make sense?

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I'm so sorry about Ed Bradley, he was such a nice man. Too bad he couldn't have done a segment on 60 minutes against horse slaughter. That's what we need, a huge exposure!

Daryl & Cora - awesome! Please post the link here on Sunday!

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Lynda... My Norton 2006 expires in 3 weeks. I'm switching to ZA Pro 6. Norton didn't give me probs at first, started a couple months later.
Anyway installed Uniblue registry repair & cleaner off their website... then ran... 754 errors.

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Cora,
A little more history, now who is Phil Rogers, your senator? Sorry, couldn't fine it in all the posts.

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Susano; I have 144 days left. I will try something else after that. How much does Zone Alarm cost?

Thank You Peter for visiting Barbaro!!! I know he loves that. Thanks for the update Alex!

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Lynda.... In my area its all sold out at stores so I'll get off their website. They say its a special now for 45.

ShelleyA:

That is a wonderful idea. May I use your comments with a little paraphrasing???

Senator Landrieu is a wonderful friend of the horses. There are many senators that are also friends of this issue.

Bonnie

Phil Rogers is the gentleman who did the NBC5 investigative report which aired last night.

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Lynda... just an FYI, if norton would have admitted they had a problem when I first called,I'd try the 2007. Only now after everyones complaints are they trying to fix. I tried their fix.... doesn't work.

Juat watched the horse slaughter news piece again. The one poor horse that was laying on it's side in the kill box struggling to get up. I noticed that the floor was wet and slick. I am sure they are so frightened they lose all bladder and bowel continence. Very, very sad.

Hi Bobby: So happy for you that your cast is off and you're doing better. you keep it up and be a good little boy for Dr. R. Remember, baby steps lead the way home. You're going to make it now, I believe in you.

To all regarding Norton 2006. I have that installed on my computer as well. It does give alot of problems and I was thinking of removing it. However, I had a guy from the Geek Squad come in to upgrade my computer and he said that although Norton does take up alot of memory on the computer it's probably the best security software out there and he advised me to keep it.

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Lynda & Cathy.... is your XP boxed or OEM?

Barbaro... you go BOY! If only we could scratch your ears once in awhile or better yet give you a hug. I know you are loved!

A BIG thanks to all caregivers. Thanks Alex and Tim for this website... you rock!

Horse Hands Across America and the World!
Keep the Faith!
Hoofray! Hoofray! Hoofray!

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Cora,
Oh, sorry! I just read Shelley's comments, they're very good, I agree keep it positive yet realistic. I would enumerate all the Senators who are co-sponsors, or at least the most recent to join and like I said mention the article going in the Star Tribune. Maybe mention Willie Nelson's letter?

Cora

Of course you can....make the point in your own words and use anything of mine that might help. Thank you...you've been doing an awesome job!!!!

Susan: Well, if they couldn't admit a problem before, they probably would not admit one if there is something wrong with their 2007. Time to try another one. My XP came with the computer when I bought it.

Cora, Shelley
Do you think it really is okay to send Sen. Landrieu's letter around, before it even goes to the senators? I have only been sending it to senatorial aides when they've asked for it, and since they are the intended recipients...

Sort of silly for me to worry about confidentiality, I guess, since, after all, it is posted on the DBs for all to see...but I still sort of think of that as in-house, and different from sending it outside to media, etc.

Tim's Real Lace Finished 3rd today!!!! YAY

Marilyn, Cora

That letter was sent out last week. That's why there are already some signatures. I doubt they would have sent us confidential information. I don't think they would have released the contents if they didn't want the word spread.

I honestly don't think it's a problem. And we don't even know if he will use the information. I doubt he's going to do a follow up that quickly but it may help keep his interest in the story.

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Lorraine.... I have always used Norton IS, but 2006 has been nothing but headaches. Yes all security software takes up alot. Zone has been out a few years now 7 has topped Norton for 2007.

Shelley
OK, thanks; just don't want to get us into any trouble! :)

I'll be happy to add a list of co-sponsors. Would I be correct in listing the co-sponsors from the committee, along with Stevens, Ensign(Sponsor) Landrieu, Reed and Byrd????

Good evening all:
I posted earlier the news about the Star Tribune committing to printing our article. I was short on time so I'll re-post with the details. Susan Albright e-mailed me and said they were going to print our article in the Sunday edition of the Star Tribune. They have more readers that day which, obviously, means even greater exposure! She also said they were considering printing a picture of BARBARO! The facts will be printed in a major publication, the NBC Chicago affiliate ran their piece last night. We are nearing the end of "America's Dirty Little Secret." These types of exposure, all the phone calls and faxes and the implementation of ideas posted on this website WILL eventually put an end to the slaughtering industry. I said earlier Cora deserves so much credit. She is like a bulldog. She kept after the Star Tribune, nipping at their heels. And thanks to all FOB's who called and e-mailed the paper. It was your efforts that got this done. Love to Barbaro!
Daryl
Proud member of
Fans Of Barbaro
Oh yeah! Take that, PETA!!

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Linda H,

So glad to see you post! I've lit three candles for each of your groups in case you don't feel up to it. (Barbaro, Foggy, S1915, MOEQ, Dr. R., Jacks and Pine.) Rest and get well!

Cora
You are doing great!!

Current co-sponsors are here:

http://capwiz.com/compassionindex/issues/bills/?bill=8786321&size=full

Does someone know if there is a more official list, or is this one okay?

Cora

You can always find the most current list of co-sponsors at this short cut

http://tinyurl.com/hxd4p

Nighty, night, Barbaro! Tucking you in a little early tonight..get nice n comfy in your fesh cushy straw..Bet you were glad to see Peter today, wasn't it nice he stopped by? Sweet dreams, big boy, we love you.

God bless Barbaro, make his hoof grow, make him healthy.

God bless Linda H, Fondmort, BDude, Cahill, Sooner, Felix, Darlin, Pine Island, Foggy, Star, Fleet Indian, Opie, Gift, Avi, Pio, Dilly, BG, Lucky, Woody, Nala, Lola, Bob and Joyce and all who need God's special care tonight.

See you in the morning!

I was just thinking - how many of those men working at the horse slaughter plants have daughters at home with stuffed animal horsies and pictures of Barbaro in their rooms? What do these little girls say whe other kids ask what their daddies do?
" My daddy kills horses."

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Debbie B--

I just read your post and not only do I think you did the right thing, I think I might have actually kicked him you-know-where...

Congratulations on standing up for all of our beliefs!

Julie L.

Well, here's what my letter is looking like. Any corrections, comments, etc. would be greatly appreciated:

Mr. Rogers:

You asked that I keep you informed of any progress with S1915 as it moves through the Senate. I thought I would share this information with you:

Sen. Landrieu has sent a Dear Colleague letter to her fellow Senators asking them to sign a letter addressed to Senate leadership (Sen. Frist, Sen. Reid). This letter asks Senate Leadership to ensure that horse slaughter prevention legislation is passed this Congress. This letter will be delivered after the elections but before the Senate comes back into session.

(INSERT LETTER FROM SENATOR LANDRIEU HERE)

As I am sure you are aware, Senator John Ensign (NV) is the sponsor of the bill. Currently there are 28 co-sponsors. They are as follows:

(INSERT LIST OF CO-SPONSORS HERE)

The Senate has effectively been closed since the beginning of Oct. Several senators want to be added as co-sponsors to S. 1915 but can not do so until the Senate comes back to start business.

Senator Landrieu is a wonderful friend of the horses. There are a great many senators that are also friends of this issue who join her in supporting this bill and in promoting it’s passage.

As I mentioned in a previous letter, Senator Frist is the key person with regards to getting this bill up for a vote this year. With the help and support of Senator Landrieu I feel S1915 has a very strong chance of getting that opportunity.

I appreciate being able to share information on the progress of S1915 with you. As new information becomes available to me, I will keep you advised as well.

Thank you for your time and for your continued interest.

Cora Adelizzi

Cora

Great letter!

I'm worried about things like accuracy, unintentional omissions, sounding like an idiot....too late on that last one. LOLOL

ALEX !!! LOOKING VERY GOOD THERE!! Saw you on WGAL TV 8 (Lancaster, PA)!! Yes, our one and only Alex!

Beautiful Barbaro, things got a little crazy again but while I couldn't get here to post, I was forwarding Novena prayers for you, and keep votive candles burning for you 24/7!!
Bet it feels good to have your cast off!
Heard you are currently into red apples, enjoy your crunchies!!

My heart beats for your heart, Barbaro!!
A kiss on your nose!! Hugs & Scratchies, too!
Love you so much!!

Be sure to give your hugs to Mr/Mrs Jackson, Dr. Dean, Peter & Michael, and send a loud neigh to Alex!

Always, at the mention of your name faces light up everywhere I go!!!
You are my inspiration!
Positive healing thoughts while you slumber and a multitude of angels keeps watch over you,
Love you, Lou Ann

And hugs & prayers to all FOB family, especially to all four-legged friends and those in need. . L

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Are you still around Laura in OH: acwright45@sbcglobal.net
Let's talk about WV. And Jay!!

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HI RENEE A.!!! JUST SO YOU KNOW - I LOVE YOU TOO!! ((((HUG))))
And give your dog a hug for me, too!
Lou Ann

Goodnight beautiful Barbaro.......

BELIEVE IN MIRACLES
BELIEVE IN BARBARO

Lindann

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Cora, You're our star! That's a great letter, thank you so much!

My, my Barbaro, sounds like you are at a Spa. Beauty and health nap in the afternoon, followed by a good grooming by Peter. That's the way to do it. Then a graze on a perfect afternoon. You deserve all good things. You are such a good patient. Butterfly kisses to you big fella.

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Thank you so much Alex for the quick links and interesting articles and updates. There is always something to do on this TWR site.

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Prayers for Rachel, Mike, Rosie, Erin, Linda H.Bob, and all other TWR family and furry ones who need special graces today.

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Rest in Peace Ed Bradley. A beautiful voice has been silenced today.

Julie L - If I was not in such shock I might have kicked him there. Thanks!!

Just got home from dinner and drinks. Hubby seems okay with me going to a new hairdresser, not so happy about himself having to find a new one. Drinks hit me hard, such a lightweight. Took too long to type this, going to bed. You all have a great night. Thanks again for the backup.

Love you BobbyJ.

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Great letter Cora, you go girl. First the astrology thread, then the MO horse sponsorship and now this wonderful letter. What a day you have had. Feel proud Cora when you go to sleep tonight, Cora, feel very proud. You had an amazing day!!!!!!!!! (((((((hugs)))))))

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Cora,

The only thing I might change is instead of saying "this Congress" I would say "...passed before the end of the year". Then it's real specific, small thing, you may not think it's important........?

Good afternoon/evening to all Friends and Fans of Barbaro, and Horse Lovers Everywhere!

I have just gotten through for the time being, trying to do my part to help the horses, but now my fingers needd a rest. The Senators are: Frist twice (accidentally-on-purpose with that Submit button!), Stevens, Ensign, Reid, McConnell, Burns, Byrd, Cochran, Murray of WA again, and Dorgan twice. I will try more later.
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For Cathy Potter in CA, I am a retired Federal Employee. When the actual holiday falls on a Saturday, the Government takes the prior Friday off as a Legal Holiday. When the actual holiday is on a Sunday, The next Monday is a Legal Holiday. I hope this info helps you.
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For Cheryl G., I really do hope your tailbone is feeling much better. When I told my mother about how I got my sore tailbone (bouncing down the stairs), she thought that it was funny and actually laughed at me, which did not make me feel any better at the time. I added the remark about the worst being behind you because I thought everybody could use a good laugh, so I hope you didn't take offense. It was definitely NOT made at your expense.
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Laura In OH, where in Ohio do you live? My parents came from Baltimore, but we also had relatives in Lancaster, Canal Winchester, Columbus, Dayton, Springfield, Pickerington, and Millersport, to name a few. I am also familiar with Wheeling, WV, because when my family lived in VA, we would go north to Breezewood PA where we'd spend the night, then take the Interstate through Wheeling, to get to the towns in Ohio I just mentioned. So please let me know!

Well, gotta go now and rest my fingers, arms, shoulders, etc., than hopefully, back to Emailing more Senators!

Best regards to all, from Laura S. in still-drowned-in-places Washington State!

Cora - I agree the letter is wonderful. Thank you for doing such a fabulous job. Night again all, I mean it this time.

Bonnie: Thank you. That is a very good suggestion and I will make that change.

Thank you to everyone for your comments, support, and friendship.

Thanx Alex, as always, for the update and the info. It's always a pleasure to read your postings

Hey Barbaro sweetie, couldn't get in today to wish you a good day. Sounds like you did have one, tho. Peter came and groomed you and took you out for grazing...sounds like you were kinda bored before he got there. Now I'm here to tuck you in for the night. Fluffing the bedding, turning on the nite lite, singing a lullabye in your beautiful ears. Have a good nite's sleep, lots of fun horsey dreams, babycakes! Hugs and smooochies!

Prayers to LindaH and all who need them.

G'nite Foggy

Daryl and Cora, How great is that ! !
I am so proud of and proud for you guys, you are both as tenacious as terriers with a bone.Way to go ! !

Good night everybody, this has been a good days work for all of us I think.

Big Barbaro, I am so glad you are doing well. I pray for you, and hope for you. love, BB

I'm getting ready soon for the "crazy quilt thingie"...So Alex hope you enjoyed your nice day "up there". Thanks for all the articles today. Nite!

Bobbycakes.....sleep tight and grow that hoof...and heal!

Renee.....( Cora,Dora,Pammie, Kathy J, and all you "kids" out there,...."Mom D'Anne" loves you....you're sweet-ums even the "grumpy one".....you always do what I tell you to do and stay out of trouble......:)...............OOPS.....OH GOSH: ################################################# ("Mom's" can even make mistakes!!!!) heh heh!

Linda H- I bet the pain medicine helps....my ribs gave a big sympathetic ache for you...day by day girl...heal! Blessings and prayers to you tonight.

Nite Ya'all! Catch tomorrow!

G'nite D'Anne. I love you too.

Bobby, you big bossy apple fiend, I am so glad to hear you are ACD'n again and grazing with Peter! Peter loves you so much, I'll bet he'd eat grass too if he thought it would help you.

I hope everyone in Barbaro Nation is doing well today; haven't been able to read today. Will catch up later.

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Debbie from Miami, your story made my day. I would not have been as calm.
I can hardly wait to see Alex on the news. All of this publicity is good.

Also, thanks to those FOB's who have educated us on Laminitis. I got scared when Dr. R. said he was worried about how Barbaro's hoof was growing. Your information made me feel so much better.

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Daryl and Cora,

Congratulations on your HUGE breakthrough with the Star Tribune! From your posts, it sounds like this was no easy task.

Thank you for your persistence to get the facts of this matter out to the public. They deserve to know the truth. Once your letter is printed, the truth will be told and the public will be better for it.

Congratulations again!

Hiya, Bobbey! It is always such a relief to read ACN/ACD. It must've been so nice to see Peter this evening. May you have golden slumbers, sweet prince, and rise in the morning to greet the end of another "work week of healing". Hugs, pets, & "scratches" from your pals in CT - Robyn, Brent, & Nikita

#### To Linda H.: So awesome to see your post! You take the expression "Be like Barbaro" to a whole new level. An inspiration!
To Skyler & D'Anne: Thinking of Rosie and Bob.
To Ryan: So nice to see your post once more.
To Rachel from Kennett Square: May your anemia resolve quickly and your energy be restored. You are missed.
To Julie (re Lola), to Steve (re. BDude), & to Rosemary (re. your Jack Russell): Sending good thoughts to your beloved four-legged friends.
To Joyce Moore: Thank you for your excellent description of the challenges of healing a horse whose hoof has been affected by laminitis. I've never studied equine anatomy and physiology (unlike human). I worry, probably unnecessarily. Your explanations are clear and very helpful.
To Debbie in Miami: You were "right on". There's lots of excellent hairdressers out there and "voting with one's feet" can be a good thing.
May Fondmort be sustained! "'Nite all" and peace to the FsOB. ####

Cora, great letter!

Goodnight, Barbaro~I hope you have a wonderful night's sleep. I will check on you tomorrow. I hope,hope, hope, it's another comfortable night.
You are precious, my friend!!!! I love you!!!!

Believe in Barbaro!
Believe in Miracles!

Goodnight, Barbaro~I hope you have a wonderful night's sleep. I will check on you tomorrow. I hope,hope, hope, it's another comfortable night.
You are precious, my friend!!!! I love you!!!!

Believe in Barbaro!
Believe in Miracles!

THANK YOU ALEX, for all that you do - tv star and all!! He he!

Good night SUBLIME BARBARO!!

Carol
San Diego

PS-My friend who likes Oprah says she loves horses and Senator Obama (probably not in that order). I know people have contacted her already but maybe since she has him on her show alot - S1915, horses, and Illinois could all be tied together in one story on her show . . .

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Carol,

That is a good idea actually. Oprah does like the underdog, in this case the "underhorse". How would anyone ever get through to her mega-star persona to actually get a word in. So has someone really contacted her about this already?

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Mike C are you here, I have news!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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HI Bonnie,

I guess that was mentioned on the discussion board to try to e-mail Oprah for a show idea and I know people have done so. I was telling my friend that I wrote to Obama because he sent me an e-mail about the DNC needing money. So I said, if I am going to help you, how about helping us pass S1915 and why would he want that S-house in his state, and his political aspirations, etc.

I know alot of famous people are doing their part to help S1915- and thanks to the media more people are aware. The NBC Chicago story was excellent. The station needs to contact Obama and get his stance on the bill - hey another good idea. :-)

DARYL- I am so proud of you for getting a rebuttal posted to the Star-Tribune editorial. Please get a copy to us via the web or copy it here. Thanks!

Carol
San Diego

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Debbie B
I had the same thing happen to me, not my hair dresser. But a friend, so called friend. She had me in tears, I ask her not to come back to my house. She told me I was wrong to cry over a horse, " When Barbaro was hurt " Have not talk to her, nor seen her. Thank God! She is not welcome here any more!

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Linda H.,

I was at work when you posted earlier and I wanted to respond right away but....the "work" thing.

I am so happy that you posted and gave us an update on your recovery. You sound like you are doing very well!

Please continue to take care of yourself, listen to your Team (that includes the Fans of Barbaro!), and let others help in taking care of you. For some people, that can be the hardest part of recovering - letting others help you.

Now grab your blanket and cuddle up Linda. It's supposed to be cool tonight pretty much everywhere. (We're expecting 3-7" of snow!)

I'll look for your posts and pray for your recovery. Take care!

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Bonnie,

It's all coming back to me now . . . just like the song!

OPRAH said she wanted to own a racehorse and dreamed of one day winning the Kentucky Derby - this story is somewhere on her website.

Carol
San Diego

PS- thanks Alex for the sublime Barbaro link! When are you going to have a class on blue link??!!

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Carol, From calling and emailing Obama what I understand is that he is in support of the bill but my feeling is that he has a lot of other priorities. So, how can we make this one of his priorities. CALL, CALL, CALL!!!!

### Linda H., glad to see you back.

### Daryl and Cora, What a great thing you have accomplished. Can't wait to read the story. Who would have thought six months ago . . . . .

### Debbie B., GOOD FOR YOU! I am now choosing my friends and associates more carefully.

## Prayers for Rachel, Erin, Rosie, D'Anne and son and all who need them. That includes all sick, mis-treated and lonely animals. We will make it better one day at a time, God willing.

##Bonnie:

How did you find out he support it??? His aides always tell me he hasn't made a decision yet.

It's about time he made up his mind!!!

Letter Mike wrote on TWR site, and I copyed and pasted to Racing form . For three year old horse of the year.

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Letter

Mike on the Tim Woolley Racing site ask, and I would like to know too!

There's an article in tomorrows Racing Form which is giving Bernardni the 3yr old of the year award without a fight..
THAT'S WRONG, its time the writers take off their blinkers and wake up. The FIRST time Bernardini runs against competition he loses. He has the golden inside post to ride the path to victory at Churchill Saturday and he loses. He was the lone horse of the day who was saddled inside to lose a race on the dirt.
Why not give 3 yr old of the year to Discreet Cat then??

Barbaro rode the tough Derby trail, took on FULL FIELDS every race. WON on EVERY track condition. WON the Derby in a margin of victory that hadn't been done in 60 years.And now he's an AFTERTHOUGHT as 3yr old of the yr????

Bernardini beat a bunch of( as Ray Kerrison put it"PLUGS" in the Jim Dandy and Travers and beat the "WORST FIELD EVER ASSEMBLED") for the Gold Cup..
I'm not saying he's not a good horse,yes he won those races, but against weak competition. Barbaro ran against WHOMEVER showed up in the most important races on the road and on all surfaces..HE'S UNDEFEATED...

The writers need to take some serious time, review not only the races themselves but the entries, amount of entries and all variables involved before naming the rightful 3 yr. old of the year.....

Who votes for 3 year old horse of the year?

Thank you

Debbie Jones
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David called me tonight and I gave my go a head on the print. Coming out tomorrow are by Sunday, David said!
Email I got tonight from David

Att: Debbie Jones

Hello. I was wondering, would you mind if we inserted the following sentence into your letter to the editor?

"Bernardini had a chance to prove his mettle in the Breeders' Cup Classic, and the one time he was tested, Invasor waltzed on by."

It's from someone else's letter. We just don't have the room to run everything, and this other letter was much the same as yours, but with this one extra point made. I like your letter a bit more, but would like to include reference to the BC Classic.

What do you think? It would read like this near the end:

"Bernardini didn't beat much in the Jim Dandy and Travers, and possibly the worst field ever assembled for the Jockey Club Gold Cup. I'm not saying he's not a good horse - yes he won those races, but against weak competition. Bernardini had a chance to prove his mettle in the Breeders' Cup Classic, and the one time he was tested, Invasor waltzed on by. Barbaro ran against whoever. . . ."

Please let me know,
David McDonough
Racing Form

Mike C you did this, your the best. If Barbaro gets 3 year old colt of the year it's because of you. Not me! I just copyed and pasted it!
But wouldn't it be wonderful if our Barbaro got three year old colt of the year. Praying for that one!!!

Hi everyone:
A great day for Barbaro! You go boy!
As I posted earlier, the Star Tribune is going to publish our article this Sunday. Great exposure, great opportunity to negate the two ugly letters they published last week and this week. In addition to Cora, who's incredible x ten, I want to thank any FOB who called the Star Tribune to get this done. Now I ask one more favor. We drilled them with our voice of displeasure. Now let's show class and thank them! Please call or e-mail Susan Albright. She is the one who made this possible. Let's not just slip away in silence. Just a moment to thank her. I think, no I know, Alex would appreciate that and so would the Jacksons. Do it for them!
A sincere thank you!
Daryl
Proud member of
Fans Of Barbaro
Ms. Susan Albright - Editor of the Editorial Pages 612-673-4777 salbright@startribune.com

Hello Barbaro,

This is a bit early for me to tuck you in but I HAVE to go into work early tomorrow so I'll be grabbing my blanket pretty soon myself.

So, you were caught laying down on the job today, huh?! But it seems that when you saw Peter, you rose to your feet. I hope he caught the compliment in your actions! Something tells me you only rise for "special" people!

Go ahead and grab your blanket Honey. Please take the fuzzy one! Now find a warm, comfy spot and cuddle up. I'll be sure to give Alex some time in the morning to post an update before I check in. But I'm always near.

Close your eyes and dream the sweetest dreams Barbaro. Let the healing continue through the night and strength carry you through your day tomorrow. I love you. Good night Honey. XXOO

Please God, continue to keep him comfortable.

##Cora and Daryl - congratulations, great work.

Kinky was on TV this morning, said he is going to meet with the new Governor regarding some issues he feels are most important - hope shutting down the slaughter houses is one of them. The new senator from Montana was also on tonight, seems like a really good guy, for all future issues.

Good night Barbaro, stay strong and patient and we will all be working to save your friends. The voice mails, emails and faxes still will be working tomorrow so let's hound them!

Whoever posted about Senator Reid, I read the same thing about him not supporting horses. Need to make sure we all call him and let him know.

Barb m in Florida

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Cora,
It's been weeks now since a letter or email from him was posted by someone and it echoed what I got too. I would have to go back through mountains of posts to get it. Myself and many others determined from his careful language that he wanted to see it get through, some of us wanted him to say more. Now that the election is over he may be more willing to take a stronger stand. I'll try him. Because he's from Illinois he may have been wanting other to take the lead in this. I hate politics!

This is from Joe's blog at www.tbfriends.com

Thursday, November 9th... Yesterday the insurance agents and contractors met at our ranch for a brawl. No one agrees on much, except we all love The Sacramento Kings. Damage to our ranch from the recent fire is estimated at 70 grand. Insurance agents want to pay less than 30 grand. Contractors explaining to insurance agents no way can they do the work for peanuts. Insurance agents shuffling papers and petting horses. Everyone swatting flies. Contractors ready to work, insurance agents not ready to pay. Pony Boy eats a doughnut and could care less. The family across the street still cannot live in their house. They stay in a trailer in their driveway and even after rain, even after very cold nights, you can still smell fire. One contractor wants to use our bathroom. 9 dogs and 7 million cats greet him. The contractor tells me he hopes he is allowed to do the work. He loves this place...

More horses coming from the race track, and the man on the radio is promising a big storm for Friday night and Saturday. Oh goodie. Round pens turn into soup, and many of our horses are wishing for hair. The big dumpster in our driveway was taken away yesterday, replaced by an empty one. This will be the third giant dumpster to be filled with pieces of a burned up ranch. Throwing things away turns into fun. An old jar of pickled beets from 1997. A disco shirt from 1977. We receive word that major development is soon coming. Maybe 1,200 new homes. Schools and shopping centers. Of course these are only rumors, like when a chat room said Cathy and I are living in a tent and eating beef-a-roni. Many more phone calls yesterday, and some of our readers want to take the starving mare Babs to their house. We so appreciate the kindness. But Babs is in major trouble, and she seem happy to be with Pony Boy. We continue to trip over ourselves. Who knows which decision would be the right decision? Other phone calls saying Babs should be destroyed, she is suffering. But over the years we have had horses in much worse condition. And they survived. They became beautiful.

We take this time to thank Julie Bridge, who sent a brand new blanket for the crippled old mare Blondie. Ann and Robert in Maryland, our biggest supporters, and their donations have saved the lives of three different horses. We thank Judy Zollicoffer who lives in Winston Salem, North Carolina. I also thank Jennifer Wright, she just turned 21, and her confidence in me brings more confidence. Sarah McDowell, who was nice enough to watch our ranch so Cathy and I could celebrate with Rachel, who also became 21. Joes Crab Shack is a hoot. We thank Dylan Peters, who sent us fancy baby carrots and bright red apples. Jodi Tuft, who I have loved for 15 years. Dr. Lisa Wallace, who comes by to check on our horses. Tim Gee our shoer, who always wants to help. Colleen at the race track, and she is best friends to all horses. And Sarah Larson, she lives in Elko and is 13 years old. Sarah sent us ten dollars in the mail and said please use this money for one bag of grain. Sarah earned the money last weekend by washing and waxing the family car.

It is Thursday, and all is good in the world. Insurance agents and contractors and starving horses and approaching storms. Thanksgiving in the air. Home is where it matters most...

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Daryl
I will be happy to call Susan Albright. She is the one who made this possible. Let's not just slip away in silence. Just a moment to thank her.
Yes we will thank her!
Would it not be wonderful also if Barbaro gets horse of the year. So happy tonight. Dancing in Alabama tonight!!!!!!!!!

Good night sweet Barbaro. Time to settle in for a cozy, comfortable night. I pray you have a peaceful night filled with lots of healing to keep you strong and determined, and many pleasant dreams to keep your spirits high and your heart happy. I thank God every day for the miracle that is you and for your continued healing. Close your eyes and go to sleep baby boy. Tomorrow is another day for you to conquer. Hugs, scratches, and big ole smooches. I love you Barbaro.

The miracle continues...

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Barb,
It was me who read some not so flattering stuff about Reid. I think he now has a red mark on flank- sorry couldn't help myself! Yes, he needs to be called 'n called.

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Daryl,

Did you say that the truth (yours/Cora's letter) will be printed in Sunday's paper?

I will get up extra early to buy my copy!

Babs is a starved mare that was on a slaughter truck a few days ago. Joe could only buy one.

Bobby, my sweet Velvet Nosed apple guy, time to tuck you in. I haven't visited much today but it's been all vet, sick kitty, updating resume, lining up references, and job hunting. Not complaining--there are many people with life-threatening concerns.

So good night, sleep well and heal, and be careful getting up and down. NO clowning, and have ACN. Tomorrow is Friday!! (I think). Is it? Maybe tomorrow's Thursday. Anyone, point is, your first cast-free week is coming along beautifully!

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Daryl,
Thanks for Susan Albright's email ad. I will write to her ASAP.

I am very grateful to you for doing this, I know it took a lot of time. I hope you feel good about the outcome! It was great to talk to you on the ph.!

## Forgot to congratulate Film Maker on her retirement. She is a brave horse who ran with the best and never got enough recognition. Same with Better Talk Now. Nice to see them both get mentioned.

Florida FOB's - Edgar is riding here at Calder on Saturday for Florida Millions. Wish I would have know earlier so we could have planned a get together.

Barb m in Florida

ALEX
Will there be a link so we can view you NBC piece? I hope I can see it

I continue to pray for all of you in need, D'Anne and son, Rosie, Erin, Linda H., Mike, Mary L., Rachael, Fondmort, Bobby's hoof, the fate of S1915, and anyone else who I'm sure I've missed.

Bobby
I pray God will just touch your hoof and restore it quickly and perfectly. Sleep well magnificent horse. I pray believing and expecting there will be continued good reports for you tommorow.

Night all ...

Bonnie;
Yes, it took a lot time. Yes, I feel good about the outcome. But this is a FOB victory. One person can't win this war against this horrible industry. Everyone here is part of all victories. And the biggest is yet to come! When those SH's are shut down we are going to throw a huge party in Montana, we all will bring Vanity Fair with us and have our guest of honor sign it! Gee, I wonder which ex-senator that could be?
Love to all FOB's!
Tomorrow, calls to the senators and more flyers!
Daryl
Proud member of
Fans Of Barbaro

Laurie H. in Mn.
I wrote an article that contains facts. Yes! This info was from many sources such as T. Boone Pickens & his wife Madeleines' website, www.endhorseslaughtering.com If you would like I can send you a copy of what they are publishing Sunday. Contact me at my e-mail and I will forward a copy to you. I don't want to post it here until it has been printed: until it's official. But Ms. Albright told me they were printing it and possible including a pic of the Big Boss Horse!
my e-mail: shanamrdiv@yahoo.com
Daryl in Mn.

Did no one hear my post? Three year old horse of the year. Could be Barbaro, no one cares?
Good night Barbaro some are fighting for you.
Mike C will hear me!

I heard you Debbie-every word. Barbaro should definitely be 3 yr old HOY. I couldn't agree more.
I like Bernardini, but he just hasn't shown that he has what Barbaro has. Sad thing is that he will never get a chance to show us, either. I wish they weren't retiring him.

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Cora Il thanks for your responds.
Some one knows!
Thank you. GONE to bed, but first to see if I can see Alex on the news.
Good night.

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Daryl,

You have mail!

Debbie L.A.,

I'm sorry. I am about to call it a night and I've read most of the postings but are you saying that this is still a possibility - Barbaro and three year old HOY?! Not just a dream? I would LOVE it! Is there something that we need to do?
Again, I apologize for not catching the details from earlier. Thank you for your patience with me!

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if you'd like to see our own J.Carson Black hard at work, check this out:

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(sorry, I don't know the HTML to make it a link)
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Friends, Famiiy and my Carrot Posse
Someone has been posting under my name.
I am so sorry.I always want to do the right thing..and I try....this is the third site I have had to leave..............Love you family...I will be with you forever.....
Susan
Believe in Miracles..........Believe in our Bobby

Time for me to hit the sack, B.J. Hope you have a nice sleep tonight, filled with hopeful dreams. I love you, boy. I'll talk to you tomorrow, precious one!

Hi, FOB's!

WGAL just showed the piece on SH with Alex being interviewed. About 1/3 to 1/2 was undercover footage at SH's. Some footage was of New Holland and interviews with some KB's.There was also footage of BARBARO!!!! Then came Alex's part and there was footage of him on the track (Chappy?) and then the interview inside the stables...looked like Carnival World and Chappy (Alex, correct me if I'm wrong) were the horses in the film. All in all, good to see coverage on TV - a bit graphic, but I forced myself to watch most of it.

Alex, thank you for all of this - not only the interview, but all the work you and Tim do on the website for all of us. This has been such an extraordinary ride - such a wonderful learning time - and such a time for learning how to take positive action. Thank you for being so patient with all of us.

Goodnight, all. Tomorrow is another day.

Healing, Love, Peace,
Lyn Gilbert

Hurrah for you, Bobby! Now, with the cast off, you and Barbaro Nation can together, focus on the left hind! Grow hoof grow! Let's have the surfaces that are behind catch up....and get a nice even growth. We're gonna do it!

You're my Champ! Love you.

Hurrah for you, Bobby! Now, with the cast off, you and Barbaro Nation can together, focus on the left hind! Grow hoof grow! Let's have the surfaces that are behind catch up....and get a nice even growth. We're gonna do it!

You're my Champ! Love you.

Grow hoof grow!
Sweet dreams Barbaro and Barbaro Nation!

Nancy in Va Beach :)

SUSAN W

Don't leave. We need you here. I would miss my Kansas Susan!

Big B, continued thoughts & prayers to you. Heal Sound and Heal Strong!

Alex, thanks for everything. Just watched the updates and am at a total loss. Been fighting this (horse slaughter) for years now. It just doesn't get any easier. But, Thank you for allowing us all to come together to end this horrific act of injustice! - among other things. You've created quite a wonderful family!!

Hope all of us family FOB's have a good nite & wonderful Friday!

Julie Z.

Only partially caught up on posts, but dang!

DEBBIE B--you go, girl! One at a time--we'll teach them. Money talks and ex-customers walk.

DARYL, CORA, and everyone else who have been so diligent getting the Star to see the light: my hat is off to you. That is a huge, huge accomplishment.

I am happy to report that over this past week, my bracelet has been noticed several times, and I've brought up Bobby and SB 1915. Three different people lit up and said "He got his cast off!" They were happy! I was happy.

Today one of the partners made good on a bet we made several months ago about the election, and bought me lunch. I mentioned choosing to watch the BC over the Mizzou-Nebraska game (Go Big Red!) and whoosh! the talk took off. His daughter rides, does dressage. He had a horse when he was a kid. He didn't know about SB 1915. He does now and he's going to know more tomorrow. Before I leave that firm, I'm going to recruit him.

He's one of the people whose face lit up about Bobby getting his cast off.

Goodnight, Barbaro, sweet boy...praying for you..

Goodnight, FOB...praying for all of you too...

Thanx, ALEX!!!!!!!!

Beautiful Barbaro and handsome Dr. Richardson looked so good on the Early Show this morning. See, the media loves this horse and it's such perfect timing for Barbaro to be the ambassador for all his four legged brethren that stand in the pens and feed lots. The segment on the Chicago channel was excellent but I am heartbroken to see the footage. Dear God, we're so close to making the difference in closing down those hell holes and end the slaughter...call, call, call..time is running out. Everyday I think about Barbaro and his wonderful owners and his caring staff at New Bolton and it just makes me feel so good inside. My hubby teases me that I care more about my Beta fish Pie May and "that horse with two broken legs" but he also finds it quite endearing that so many people care and so much good can come from a tragedy. I'm thank-ful that Film Maker and Bernadini have retired...they are great athletes and are now "safe". Good night Barbaro, rest snuggly in your hay. Good night FOB's, you are some of the best people I've come to know.

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ANNA-
Jake looks WUNDUH-FUL DAHLIN!!SIMPLY MAH-VELOUS!! Looks like my cats are there with her chewing up her pages as she writes them!! Naughty little vixens!! Her hairy babies must be as much of shredding machines as mine are. Lovely Anna, it is so sweet of you to paint Jake. Is it watercolor? It is great!

BARBARO-BIG OLE BOY-I am hoping you are asleep and dreaming of all the great things you have done for the people around you. You have opened the door for progress, technology and forward thinking to alot of folks who have teamed up to save you and help you become stronger and healthier. It is so wonderful to think that so much change is being brought about due to the horrible incident of your injury. You are most undoubtedly the most talked about horse throughout our history. You are making history, and hopefully history will be made because of you. Track safety is what you have brought about, new laminitis research monies, you are absolutely awesome! Team Barbaro at NBC coupled with Jackson's, Michael Matz, Peter Brette, KF, Alex, Eliza so many others I cannot even begin to attempt their names. Thanks to all concerned and thanks to all connections for opportunities and information about this magnificent beast of a horse.
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Prayers to all creatures great and small.

Special prayers to Bob Jr. tonight.

LINDA H.-I was so happy to see you posting, but you better sleep get some rest, so you can heal yourself. No foolin around and gettin too active!!Did you get the message I posted about phenergan or compazine? Either one will seriously help with your nausea from pain meds.

BDUDE-I so hope that you are still eating and roaring when I check on you Friday. Be good and feel good lil man. Tell daddy Steve and mama Linda Hi!!(oh and Dudette and Tony too!! :)

Rachel, ,Mike Rea, Erin Brennan, Sabina, Nala, Lola,Star,Gift,Lucky,Felix, Cahill, Maizie,Tbfriends-Joe & family of horses and cats/dogs/birds,Thinking and praying for all of your well being.

Daryl
I am so glad that the editor of the editorial page is being so responsive to our concerns and for showing such journalistic fairness about the anti-slaughter cause. Thanks to you, Cora and all of the FOB's for successfully convincing her to run the story. I will call her again tomorrow to thank her.
Aloha Fran

Good morning, Barbaro...my sweet baboo and wonder-horse. I'm so happy to hear that you had a good day and a nice time with your Peter. Here's looking forward to another one! I love you, sweetie XOXOX

Good morning, everyone...a bit of dull day here in North Yorkshire, and a very heavy frost on the ground. It might turn out nice! And it's Friday!! :-)

Good morning everyone,
hoping for good news from all quarters today.
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Jo,
No frost here, just dull. Very mild for November and they are still letting the dairy herds out to graze after milking.

I'm going to watch the racing from Cheltenham this afternoon. Nicky Henderson has some runners, so hoping they will interview him about Fondmort. I have been trying to find out some more about him, but all I know is that he is French bred and they found him in France when he was about four. 'Good death' isn't a literal translation of his name and I'm wondering whether it might really mean 'dead last' as a bit of quirky French humour for the naming of a racehorse.

I see you like Bill Bryson. I love his books. Did you see the South Bank Show recently when he went back to his old house in Iowa? I think he lives back in England now, in Suffolk. I think I night take a stab at A Short History of Nearly Everything next.